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Patch 4.3.2 Release Date Update
The status of the patch is still unsure, the whole situation is most likely the reason why the US Maintenance got cancelled and then moved to Wednesday.

The patch files are available on the download servers and things look somewhat ready but at this point it seems that the patch will only go live next week. The EU maintenance wasn't moved to Thursday and I don't think Blizzard plans to deploy a patch on both continents on the same day, even if it's a small one.


Statistics: Heroic Madness of Deathwing Class Representation
Continuing our ongoing statistics posts, today we look at class representation for characters that have completed Heroic Madness of Deathwing. As always with this type of post, the sample size is fairly small; less than 100 guilds have completed the encounter so far.

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Blue Posts
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Blue Post Replies
We read them. We also allow conversations to take place without our influence when it seems that it's the better course of action. Sometimes our intervention can actually skew a conversation off track if we're not careful. Then again, sometimes skewing a conversation is something we need to do too, to get people "on track" or even away from non-constructive discussion.

Sometimes we just don't have anything we could effectively add to the conversation, but it may spark some discussion internally that we can have amongst ourselves or take to the developers and producers. If and when we do have something we can bring back, we generally try to. Some may be under the false belief that it was the constant posts about a topic that made us come back to the topic, when in fact we may just need some time to discuss and come up with an answer that works and sometimes, we may have an answer that we just can't share at the time. Timing in our roles is often everything and as many know, "promising" something too soon, can be upsetting or worrisome to some people, while others don't mind being "in the know" even if plans do change. It's a balancing act.

We don't have elaborate schemes. That would mean we have a lot more time on our hands than we actually do to sit, plot and plan. In most cases, when we reply to something on the forums, we're tightrope walking while keeping an eye on the ever so dangerous ps and qs. That's not to say there isn't a method to the madness (see above paragraph.) It just means, we have to be quick on developing our thoughts and typing them out in a way that (hopefully) makes some semblance of sense.

If we see some really good feedback or ideas, we will often take it with us when we meet with the developers (which is generally a weekly face to face meeting.) We don't want to give the wrong impression that feedback given equals a guaranteed change based on that feedback.

We are just as likely to notice a smaller thread as we are to notice the larger ones. Sometimes, the best conversations are on the first few pages (not to say we don't read through the entire thread.) The reason being, that often, the conversation is more focused on the topic at hand and as the thread lengthens, we either see repeat discussions/arguments, or it begins to expand to other topics that may not be as relevant to the main topic of the original post.

BTW, contrary to popular belief (and not to start a moderation discussion.) We do not delete threads solely on the idea that it's saying it dislikes something we've designed or done to the game. We generally delete non-constructive threads or repeat threads since they often don't lead to good discussion or split conversation which makes it more difficult for us to sift through them for the constructive bits. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

64-bit Live Client
We'll be disabling the PTR forums shortly. Going forward you will be able to find the latest 64-bit client on the Tech Support forums. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Mists of Pandaria Information Plan
There does and there is. There's not anything specific I can share on a time frame as of yet, but things are moving along well with Mists of Pandaria and we'll be getting you all more information on "what's next" as soon as possible. For those that were able to see the next expansion at BlizzCon, you'll have seen that we were relatively far along in development. As we've said before, we're working diligently to put out expansions a little bit quicker than we have in the past. But, as always, we want to make sure we release "when it's ready" as well. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Trading Card Game Art Gallery Update
The Trading Card game art gallery has been updated with ten new pieces.





Curse Weekly Roundup
Pico is back to tell us about the things you might have missed recently in Diablo 3, Minecraft, Resident Evil 6, and more.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Patch 4.3.2 Release Date Update, Heroic Madness Class Stats, Blue Posts started by Boubouille View original post
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  1. snuzzle's Avatar
    What is that green lady supposed to be in the TCG image, second row, first on the left? Too tall to be a goblin. Too skinny and her face is too humanlike to be an orc. Maybe a half-orc? But bleh that feels like a copout. :\
  1. kaizoku's Avatar
    Looks like no patch today. At least they should have let us download it. I hope there is no another 12 hour maintenance next week.
  1. Unforgivenn's Avatar


    patch maybe?
  1. DrakeWurrum's Avatar
    Can it be done by spec instead of class? I'm willing to bet most of those Shaman are healer spec.
  1. Dracodraco's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeWurrum View Post
    Can it be done by spec instead of class? I'm willing to bet most of those Shaman are healer spec.
    Not possible. The software that pulls these numbers checks for the achivement - they can't check for spec used when the achivement was aquired. Also, people can respec, so unless someone feels like asking every single person with the achivement what spec they were, we're not going to get that info.
  1. tugnutt7's Avatar
    I can see the limitations of trying to figure out spec using blizz's information. Maybe it is possible using wow-progress though. They record spec do they not?
  1. jax's Avatar
    Hunter at the bottom? really? Then why is my hunter friend and i at the top dps in our guild when we do madness :P? Can be because its normal but still! Warriors and Hunters 4life!
    Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal..... just because the rest of your guild has LFR type skill and you have normal mode skill doesn't mean hunters aren't horrid atm...
  1. kaizoku's Avatar
    No update to 4.3.2 this week. I hope they don't have a long maintenance next week after having two this week.
  1. Alayea's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracodraco View Post
    Not possible. The software that pulls these numbers checks for the achivement - they can't check for spec used when the achivement was aquired. Also, people can respec, so unless someone feels like asking every single person with the achivement what spec they were, we're not going to get that info.
    A very good point, but I wouldn't consider it far-fetched to believe that at least most of them were resto.
  1. Greylegend's Avatar
    Talk about classes and races: 1. Blizz is opening up the animal kingdom with Pandas, any future thoughts of expanding more animal races? Lions and tigers and bears, oh my! Or just more humanoids and their different stance forms? 2. Nice new raid configurations, LFR is good, still needs tweaking. Here is another idea, How about having flexible raid numbers or least more options more than a 10 or 25 man. Maybe in 5 man increments? offering scaling difficulty and rewards. Seems many groups are a few people too short or too many to reach 25 mans, when a 15 or 20 man would be the fix. Possbly expandable to old 40 man raids. Losing is not an option Greylegend
  1. mmocafd6fe3fae's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Merlaine View Post
    Maybe now people will stop qq'ing about mages........for a while anyway :S
    You are right ! This graph clearly shows that all those feral druids, ret paladins and elemental shamans are much better than mages ! And therefore, mages need buffs !
  1. turius's Avatar
    tgs art is REALLY awfull...
  1. dallk's Avatar
    the percentages all add up to 99.99%. I demand to know where the last 0.01% is!
  1. Cyriaa's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracodraco View Post
    Not possible. The software that pulls these numbers checks for the achivement - they can't check for spec used when the achivement was aquired. Also, people can respec, so unless someone feels like asking every single person with the achivement what spec they were, we're not going to get that info.
    With the amount of technology and incredibly talented programmers, I wouldn't go as far as to say it's impossible.
    Difficult sure, not impossible though.

    Anyways, I find it interesting that hunters were top and most represented in T11, were pretty good in T12 and have just kind of disappeared in T13 =/
  1. Alixie's Avatar
    Fanart featuring horde killing alliance. How original.
  1. Venteus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Voxer View Post
    Really? When Shamans weren't brought for every other end-tier boss everyone moaned about "Shaman's need some love" "Buff Shamans" "Shamans suck ass" etc etc etc... Now that they are a preferred class to bring to Madness... I see moaning yet again. The community of this game... I'm just gonna go with wow. WoW's community is wow.... Where was I? Oh yeah... wow.
    Sorry, but this isn't a turn-based affair. I don't care if Shaman's have been shit for every patch since the game's release, there's no excuse for an obscenely OP class.

    Not to say shamans are "obscenely OP," I'm just shitting on the "it's our turn" idiocy.
  1. jax's Avatar
    Anyways, I find it interesting that hunters were top and most represented in T11, were lower than mid pack in T12 Heroics and have just kind of disappeared in T13 =/
    Fixed that for you. And if you were paying attention, from the beginning of T11 when they gutted SV, hunters have been saying this was going to happen due to Blizz's failure to have a clue how scaling works...
  1. brendonater's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by dallk View Post
    the percentages all add up to 99.99%. I demand to know where the last 0.01% is!
    We are the .01%. Occupy Deathwing
  1. Mormodes's Avatar
    Seriously, why do people care so much about class representation on a fight that .5% of the raiders in WoW even see?Class representation on normal mode Madness would be a better indication of class power, since more people actually see that fight.
  1. Fresh's Avatar
    I only watch this to see Pico lol

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