WoW stabilizes over 10M subscribers, down 100k in Q4 2011

If MoP is not to release in 2012 as it looks from the financial report ... the whole annual pass will really be a big fuck you, from Blizz, to players, with <3, for money. 100k lost in the quarter that WoW got new content ? Imagin 4 quarters when it will get no content ...

Blizzard deserves a medal for the annual pass scam. Instead of people paying 39.99 for Diablo 3 they paid $150 for diablo 3 and the same WOW raid for 8 months. When the annual pass expires, pandaria will release and you'll have to start paying again having gotten nothing but a copy of diablo 3 for your years sub and that is a genius move by blizzard and deserves a nobel prize for business IMO.

Don´t really understand those that dont like Wow anymore and are playing Swtor instead and wants Wow to fail and the hole just becouse i played Wow and now i play Swtor the other game most die and keeping hoping that Wow will die.

The best thing for you as player is that Wow is going good, that keeps the pressure up on Bioware to keep improving and come up with new things for Swtor and same for Wow, the best thing for Wow players is that Swtor and Bioware keep the pressure on Blizzard to keep improving and come up with new things for Wow. and that they get ideas from each others games. so Wow or Swtor dying would be the worst thing that could happen for the other games players.

And call the annual pass a scam is kinda dumb to, it is a treat for those that knew they would play wow for a year forward, and the treat being a copy of Diablo III, a ingame mount, a spot in Mop beta, and sorry for saying it but if you signed upp for a annual pass just becouse you wanted Diablo III then your stupid and that is not Blizzards fault.

Originally Posted by Bowser

I still think that if many people wouldn't have bought the annual pass, the numbers would have gone down even more. I can only speak for myself and my friends, but 9 out of 10 people who got the annual pass are not even playing anymore (2 months or longer offline on real ID). Of course their sub is still active since they paid for a whole year.

Same. I entered pre-paid 60 days code, never logged in. For the MoP beta!

Originally Posted by Lumocolor

Blizzard deserves a medal for the annual pass scam. Instead of people paying 39.99 for Diablo 3 they paid $150 for diablo 3 and the same WOW raid for 8 months. When the annual pass expires, pandaria will release and you'll have to start paying again having gotten nothing but a copy of diablo 3 for your years sub and that is a genius move by blizzard and deserves a nobel prize for business IMO.

Don't forget you will have to pay for MoP as well ...

Look - I'll admit it's a POSITIVE sign for WoW - but that headline is wrong. WoW is NOT stable - it's looking like it might be STARTING to stabilize - that is more accurate. But it certainly has NOT stabilized 100%. As others have said, the real test is next quarter's earnings.

Originally Posted by Raven

And call the annual pass a scam is kinda dumb to, it is a treat for those that knew they would play wow for a year forward, and the treat being a copy of Diablo III, a ingame mount, a spot in Mop beta, and sorry for saying it but if you signed upp for a annual pass just becouse you wanted Diablo III then your stupid and that is not Blizzards fault.

This is what Blizz does best ... they promise, they hint, players believe them and then nothing. A lot of ppl who bought pass did so because Blizz advertised it as big package of stuff to do ... you get D3 and beta and then even MoP. Now they postponed D3 and MoP and half of the annual pass that was supposed to be filled with new stuff to do will be empty.

Yeah, it's players fault ... they should know better than to believe Blizz.

Originally Posted by dendaros

well china has around 6.5 mill subs brazil around 700k(min) so i say around 2.8 mill

Brazil has over 1 million players, and that number will rise since Blizzard teamed up with GVT, an internet provider owned by Vivendi. The GVT subscribers receive the Vanilla+BC pack for free, and wow subscription drops from the current $8,00 (aka around R$ 15,00 brazilian currency) to around $5,50 or $ 6,00 (aka R$ 12,90 brazilian currency)

Originally Posted by Repefe

Now they postponed D3 and MoP and half of the annual pass that was supposed to be filled with new stuff to do will be empty.

Yeah, it's players fault ... they should know better than to believe Blizz.

When did they delay MoP exactly? Just wondering, because I've seen no evidence or news that MoP has been delayed? I don't see where Blizzard ever promised that your annual pass would be filled with new content, just that you get D3 and MoP beta, and I see no reason why both of those events won't happen before this October which is when the annual pass started. So relax.

Originally Posted by bigjohnburger

The only reason these numbers are so low is because they tricked the dumb player base of wow into buying that year round plan which includes diablo 111. I love watching how stupid most people are on the forums .

In other words, wow would probably be down another million subscribers.

You are aware that the people buying that save money quite a lot if they actually play wow.

I don't get everyone complaining about the annual sub.

you got D3 for free. you got a mount as well if I don't remember wrong, FOR FREE.
and for what price? the same price you otherwise would've paid to play world of warcraft.

if you weren't planning on playing more WoW then don't sign up for a year, you're the retard in that case not them.

and, SWTOR launched! c'mon, it's literally the biggest MMO competitor WoW has ever faced! and they're down 100k subs. sure a lot of those might be people tied down with the annual sub, but I promise you that the mainstay of the annual sub subscribers would've played WoW anyway.

Does anyone know how populated previous beta tests were? 1 million people playing MoP on a couple of beta servers is going to be fun.....

Originally Posted by Collected

When did they delay MoP exactly? Just wondering, because I've seen no evidence or news that MoP has been delayed? I don't see where Blizzard ever promised that your annual pass would be filled with new content, just that you get D3 and MoP beta, and I see no reason why both of those events won't happen before this October which is when the annual pass started. So relax.

According to the financial report Activision expects Blizz to release only 1 more new game after D3 this year and it's more likely SC2 HoS than MoP. Also when annual pass was announced D3 was aimed at Q1 2012 and MoP was expected to land somewhere at the end of Q2, which would lead to 4.3->D3->MoP beta->MoP content packed in first 8 months of the annual pass. Now it looks like you be lucky to get D3 at the end of Q2.

But yeah ... Blizz didn't commit to that timeline, stupid players believed them to keep it.

Not suprising to see certain people mentioning SWTOR and attempting to bash it down like it was the devil incarnate or some shit. As for the subscribers lost it's not a suprise as blizzard said themselves that christmas time is usually when they see the subs go up, alas they didn't go up they went down by 100k but thats not nessecarily a bad thing considering the previous losses.

Originally Posted by Repefe

According to the financial report Activision expects Blizz to release only 1 more new game after D3 this year and it's more likely SC2 HoS than MoP.

Where does it say that? If there was even the slightest hint that MoP was going to be in 2013 in this call don't you think Boubouille might have pointed that out? If MoP came out in 2013 it would be the longest expansion pack development time in WoW history.. they've never taken that long. Also they're holding the big press tour in March, the one that Boubouille pointed out typically happens 1 month before F&F alpha starts. All signs point to a 2012 release.

Originally Posted by Collected

Does anyone know how populated previous beta tests were? 1 million people playing MoP on a couple of beta servers is going to be fun.....

good question. i've got the pass but i'm not sure whether i'll be playing beta a lot, for this wasn't the reason to take it in the first place. i don't like spoilers much, but on the other hand, i'd like to see the evolution of my class, hunter. it probably will depend on when the progress of my raid ends (7/8 H now), which will probably be before beta start.

as for the sub losses - i don't see an issue there. wow is uber successful, but it couldn't grow endlessly. obviousely it's nigh impossible to create a game that everyone likes. so yeah, i believe the numbers will decline a bit further but eventually stabilise at a few millions (still). it would need a way more massive sub loss to actually "kill" the game as a 90% loss would still keep the game going easily (1 mio left after all).

So WoW losses 100k more even with 4.3 and the Anual Pass. So what can be expected for Q1 with no patches? Anyway i expect WoW to stabilize at around 8 mil.

D3 was supposed to be released in Q1 now in Q2... So frustrating...

Previously: "Lawlz WoW is gonna bleed huge subscriberz in Q4... idiotz lol" After Q4... "GOD DARN IT! YOU WASCAWY WABITS WAIT UNTIL Q1, THEN SHIT HIT FAN!"

Hehe made me laugh.On a more serious note though: It will hit the fan in Q1/Q2 because it always hits the fan between the last raid and the release of a new XP.