Update: It seems that the Black Market Auction House is not enabled in this build.

Mists of Pandaria Beta - Build 15689
Two patches in a week is not enough, so how about a third? If you are tired of taking part in PvP on certain maps, it looks like there is now a solution for you! ERR_PVP_BLACKLIST_CAP indicates that players will be able to blacklist maps when queuing for some type of PvP.

Black Market Auction House
The Black Market Auction House allows players to bid on special items that are not normally sold by NPCs. For example, Mei Francis normally sells mounts in Dalaran, but in this case she is auctioning Ashes of Al'ar!

The items for auction vary by server, as other servers are able to bid on Reins of the Blazing Drake, Swift White Hawkstrider, or Riding Turtle.





Armored Druid Bear Forms
Incarnation brings us yet another set of armored druid forms!



New Items
For the full list of new items, check out WoWDB!

Level Type Slot Name
1JunkN/ASky Crystal
1JunkN/ASkyshard
1JunkN/ABag of Helpful Things
1JunkN/ANat's Fishing Chair
1PetN/AHopling
1PetN/AAqua Strider
1PetN/AGrinder
1OtherN/ABattle Horn
500OtherN/ASigil of Power
500OtherN/ASigil of Wisdom
513OtherN/AChimera of Fear
513OtherN/ABreath of the Black Prince
80CookingN/AApprentice Cookbook
80CookingN/AExpert Cookbook
80CookingN/AArtisan Cookbook
80CookingN/AMaster Cookbook
80CookingN/AGrand Master Cookbook
30CookingN/ATest Cookbook
85ClothHandsForager's Gloves
90Item EnhancementN/ALiving Steel Weapon Chain
90Item EnhancementN/AGhost Iron Shield Spike


Achievement Changes
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Pet Battles

Pandaria

Pandaria Raid
  • Sorry, Were You Looking for This? New: Successfully activate the Ancient Mogu Artifact during the Gara'jal the Spiritbinder encounter in Mogu'shan Vaults on Normal or Heroic difficulty.

Temple of Kotmogu

Scenarios
  • A Brewing Storm New: Defeat Borokhula the Destroyer in A Brewing Storm.
  • Beat the Heat New: Defeat Little Liuyang without taking damage from a Flame Wall in the Arena of Annihilation scenario.
  • Big Beach Brew Bash New: Defeat Captain Ook in the Big Beach Brew Bash.
  • Burgled Brew New: Defeat Vengeful Hui in the Burgled Brew scenario.
  • Don't Shake the Keg New: Defeat Borokhula the Destroyer in A Brewing Storm without getting hit by his Swamp Smash.
  • Fancy Footwork New: Complete the Crypt of Forgotten Kings scenario without anyone taking damage from a Cloud of Hatred.
  • For Display Only New: Defeat General Zhu without using any of the artifact orbs in the Temple of Kotmogu scenario.
  • It's a Trap! New: Step on a floor trap in the Crypt of Forgotten Kings scenario.
  • Monkey in the Middle New: Defeat Captain Ook without him getting the orange.
  • Monkey See, Monkey Kill New: Defeat all bosses of the Big Beach Brew Bash.
  • Mucking Around New: Find and kill the Muckscale King during the Assault on Zan'vess scenario.
  • Party of Six New: Finish A Brewing Storm with all six Thunderpaw Guardians still alive.
  • Perfect Delivery New: Return six stolen kegs without any being damaged in the Burgled Brew scenario.
  • Save it for Later New: Complete the Burgled Brew scenario without using any Volatile Greenstone Brew.
  • Spill No Evil New: Complete Stage 2 of the Big Beach Brew Bash without any brew being stolen.
  • Stay Off the Grass New: Don't aggro any Zhun'ji Maulers or Ancestral Horrors in the Temple of Kotmogu scenario.
  • The Arena of Annihilation New: Complete the Arena of Annihilation scenario.
  • The Eye of the Tiger New: Defeat all final bosses - Cloudbender Kobo, Maki Waterblade, and Satay Byu - in the Arena of Annihilation scenario.
  • The Keg Runner New: Complete Stage 2 of the Big Beach Brew Bash before the third wave of hozen pirates arrives.
  • The Perfect Pour New: Brew the Boomer Brew without anyone in your party being hit by Lightning during A Brewing Storm.
  • The Temple of Kotmogu New: Defeat General Zhun in the Temple of Kotmogu scenario.
  • Zero Bug Count New: Kill each type of mantid in the Assault on Zan'vess scenario.

Resurrection

Silvershard Mines
  • End of the Line New: Seize control of a mine cart that is controlled by the opposing team within 20 yards of the depot, and then capture it.
  • Escort Service New: Capture 100 mine carts in Silvershard Mines.
  • Greed is Good New: Gain both the Berserking and Restoration buffs at the same time in Silvershard Mines.
  • Master of Silvershard Mines New: Complete the Silvershard Mines achievements listed below.
  • Mine Cart Courier New: Capture a mine cart using each of the 5 sets of tracks in a single Silvershard Mines match.
  • Mine Mine Mine! New: Kill 100 enemies trying to take control of the mine cart you are defending.
  • My Diamonds and Your Rust New: Win a Silvershard Mines battle without letting the enemy team capture a minecart.
  • The Long Riders New: Capture and escort a minecart from its spawn to a depot without losing control.
  • Three for Three New: Capture 3 mine carts in a single Silvershard Mines battle without dying.



Spell Changes
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Misc Spells
  • Master Forager Allows faster gathering of resources in Pandaria.
  • Huojin Champion - You champion the cause of Huojin Pandaren. All reputation gains while in dungeons will be applied to your standing with them. Instant.
  • Tushui Champion You champion the cause of Tushui Pandaren. All reputation gains while in dungeons will be applied to your standing with them. Instant.
  • Item - Proc Dodge Your attacks have a chance to grant you 3,386 dodge for 15 sec.
  • Item - Proc Intellect Your healing spells have a chance to grant 3,386 Intellect for 10 sec.
  • Confession compels a friendly target to confess a secret. Or maybe it's just subtle mind control. 40 yd range, Instant, 30 min cooldown.
  • 5.0 Rare Item Spawn - Hammer of Ten Thunders Your melee attacks have a chance to blast your enemy with 13,500 nature damage.
  • 5.0 Rare Item Spawn - Jade Infused Blade Your melee attacks have a chance to encase your enemy in jade, stunning them for 3 sec. Only works on creatures level 90 and below. Does not work on players.
  • 5.0 Rare Item Spawn - Yaungol Fire Your melee attacks have a chance to set your enemies ablaze, dealing 882 damage every 2 sec for 10 sec.

Professions - Engineering
  • Cloak Tinker: Goblin Glider Permanently attaches a specialized folding assembly to a cloak, allowing you to deploy a goblin glider and fall slowly for 30 sec. Additionally, the glider has periodic forward thrust and usually won't catch fire. The cloak can only be used once every two minutes and requires an Engineering skill of at least 500 to operate. 5 sec cast. Reagents: Strong Flux (3)

Druid (Forums)
  • Feline Grace New: Reduces damage from falling while in Cat Form.

Talents
  • Cenarion Ward now costs 14.8% of Base Mana, down from 22.4%.
  • Dream of Cenarius now proc increase healing done by your next healing spell by 70%, up from 30%. Tranquility is not affected..
  • Nature's Vigil now increases all damage and healing done by 20% for 30 sec, down from 30%. Single target spells now damage or heal a nearby target for 25% of the damage/healing done, down from 50%.

Feral
  • Rip now has a duration increased by Ravage as well.

Hunter (Forums)

Major Glyphs

Glyphs
  • Glyph of Marking Your Hunter's Mark ability now places a bullseye on your target instead of its usual visual.
  • Glyph of Direction Causes your Misdirection target to appear larger.

Quilen
  • Eternal Guardian New: Returns the spirit to the body, restoring a dead target to life with 20% health and 20% mana. 20 yd range, 2 sec cast, 10 min cooldown.
  • Fearless Roar New: The quilen lets out a fearless roar, increasing the critical strike chance of all party and raid members by 5%. Instant, 45 sec cooldown.

Porcupine
  • Paralyzing Quill New: Fires paralyzing quills around the porcupine, incapacitating all enemies for 2 sec. 0.5 sec cast, 60 sec cooldown.
  • Rest New: You command your pet Porcupine to take a rest. Instant.

Goat
  • Trample New: Your goat tramples the enemy, kicking up an obscuring cloud of dust, causing all enemies within 10 yards to have their melee and ranged attack speed reduced by 20% for 30 sec. Melee range, Instant, 25 sec cooldown.

Water Strider
  • Still Water New: Infuses all party and raid members within vision with still water, increasing their spell power by 10% and their critical strike chance by 5% for 60 min. Instant.
  • Surface Trot New: Allows the Hunter and the Water Strider to walk across water for 10 min. Any damage will cancel the effect. Unlimited range, Instant.

Crane
  • Lullaby New: Puts the target to sleep for 4 sec. 20 yd range, Instant, 60 sec cooldown.
  • Trick New: You command your Crane to do a trick. Instant.

Basilisk
  • Petrifying Gaze New: Turns the target into stone for 3 sec, causing them to be invulnerable. 20 yd range, Instant, 60 sec cooldown.

Mage (Forums)
Frost
  • Frostbolt now also can be cast on your Water Elemental to heal it for (1,442 + 189.2% of SP).

Monk (Forums)

Talents

Brewmaster
  • Desperate Measures New: While at or below 35% health, your Expel Harm has no cooldown.
  • Purifying Brew now has a 1 sec cooldown.
  • Summon Black Ox Statue has been reworked: Sancturary of the Ox (Passive) -Everytime the Monk deals damage equal to 50% of their health, the Black Ox statue will cast Guard on an injured party or raid member within 40 yards absorbing 14,232 damage lasting 30 sec. This effect cannot be cast onto the Monk.

Mistweaver
  • Stance of the Wise Serpent now grants hit and expertise equal to 50% Spirit gained from items or effects, down from any Spirit gained. Now heals for 50% of non-auto attack damage, rather than all damage.
  • Summon Jade Serpent Statue now heals based on non-auto attack damage, rather than all damage.

Minor Glyphs

Major Glyphs
  • Glyph of Leer of the Ox New: Teaches you the spell Leer of the Ox: Your Ox Statue stirs hatred in the target, reducing their movement speed by 50% and causing them to attack your Black Ox Statue for 8 sec. The statue must be within 40 yards of the target. Requires Black Ox Statue to be active.
  • Glyph of Path of Blossoms now increases the number of Fire Blossoms you create by 1, down from 10.

Paladin (Forums)
  • Consecration base damage has been reduced by 24%.
  • Holy Wrath damage has been reduced to 408 and AP scaling reduced to 35.7%, down from 59.5%.
  • Shield of the Righteous base damage has been reduced by 85%. AP scaling has been reduced to 54%, down from 60%.

Priest (Forums / Talent Calculator)
  • Glyph of Confession New: Teaches you the ability Confession. Compels a friendly target to confess a secret.

Major Glyphs
  • Glyph of Lightspring New: Transforms your Lightwell into a Lightspring: Creates a Holy Lightspring. Every 5 sec the Lightspring will attempt to heal party and raid members lower than 50% health for (5,735 + 55.3% of SP) over 6 sec. Attacks done to the target equal to 30% of your total health will cancel the effect. Lightspring lasts for 3 min or until 15 heals are expended.

Glyphs

Shaman (Forums)
Minor Glyphs

Major Glyphs
  • Glyph of Chain Heal has been renamed to Glyph of Unstable Earth. Causes your Earthquake spell to also reduce the movement speed of affected targets by 40% for 3 sec.
  • Glyph of Telluric Currents has been reworked: Causes your Lightning Bolt to restore 10% of your mana when it strikes an enemy.
  • Glyph of Totemic Recall now returns the full mana cost of any recalled totems, rather than 50%.

Warlock (Forums)
  • Dark Intent now costs 4% of Base Mana, down from 26% of Base Mana.
  • Imp Swarm's cooldown is reduced by spell haste.

Demonology

Affliction
  • Drain Soul now causes damage every 2 sec and rewards a Soul Shard after dealing damage twice.
  • Soulburn now has a 1.5 sec cooldown.

Major Glyphs

Warrior (Forums)
  • Deadly Calm New: You enter a battle trance, reducing the cost of your next 3 Heroic Strike or Cleave attacks by 10 Rage. Instant, 60 sec cooldown.

Fury
  • Bloodsurge now has a 20% proc rate, down from 30%.

Arms
  • Taste for Blood now each additional Overpower will hit for an additional 30% damage, up from 20%.

Major Glyphs
  • Glyph of Incite has been reworked: Using Devastate during Deadly Clam reduces the cost of Heroic Strike and Cleave by an additional 20 Rage.



New Maps





Client Strings
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
  • CHALLENGES_RECORD_TIME - Your Best
  • CHALLENGE_MODE_GUILD_BEST - Guild Best
  • CHALLENGE_MODE_MEDAL1 - Bronze
  • CHALLENGE_MODE_MEDAL2 - Silver
  • CHALLENGE_MODE_MEDAL3 - Gold
  • CHALLENGE_MODE_REALM_BEST - Realm Best
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_AZUREMYSTISLE2 - Tide's Hollow
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_BREWMASTERSCENARIO011 - A Brewing Storm
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_BREWMASTERSCENARIO031 - Big Beach Brew Bash
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_BURNINGSTEPPES14 - Blackrock Spire
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_BURNINGSTEPPES15 - Blackrock Caverns
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_BURNINGSTEPPES16 - Blackrock Depths
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_COLDRIDGEVALLEY9 - Frostmane Hovel
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DEATHKNELL12 - Night Web's Hollow
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUNMOROGH10 - Gnomeregan
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUNMOROGH11 - Gol'Bolar Quarry
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUNMOROGH6 - Coldridge Pass
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUNMOROGH7 - The Grizzled Den
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUROTAR10 - Tiragarde Keep
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUROTAR11 - Great Hall
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUROTAR12 - Skull Rock
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUROTAR19 - Dustwind Cave
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_DUROTAR8 - Burning Blade Coven
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_ELWYNN1 - Fargodeep Mine
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_ELWYNN2 - Lower Mines
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_GHOSTLANDS1 - Amani Catacombs
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_GILNEAS1 - Emberstone Mine
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_GILNEAS2 - Main Floor
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_GILNEAS3 - Upper Floor
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_HEARTOFFEAR1 - Oratorium of the Voice
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_HEARTOFFEAR2 - Heart of Fear
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_KEZAN5 - Kaja'Mine Gold
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_KEZAN6 - Kaja'Mine Silver
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_KEZAN7 - Kaja'Mine Copper
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_KUNLAIPASSSCENARIO1 - Brewmoon Festival
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_KUNLAISUMMITSCENARIO1 - Peak of Serenity
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MOGUSHANPALACE1 - The Crimson Assembly Hall
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MOGUSHANPALACE2 - Vaults of Kings Past
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MOGUSHANPALACE3 - Throne of Ancient Conquerors
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MOGUSHANVAULTS1 - Dias of Conquerors
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MOGUSHANVAULTS2 - The Repository
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MOGUSHANVAULTS3 - Forge of the Endless
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MULGORE6 - Palemane Rock
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_MULGORE7 - The Venture Co. Mine
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_NEWTINKERTOWN8 - Frostmane Hold
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_NORTHSHIRE3 - Echo Ridge Mine
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_SCHOLOMANCE3 - The Upper Study
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_SCHOLOMANCE4 - The Headmaster's Study
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_SEARINGGORGE14 - Blackrock Spire
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_SEARINGGORGE15 - Blackrock Caverns
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_SEARINGGORGE16 - Blackrock Depths
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_SHADOWGLEN2 - Shadowthread Cave
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_SILITHUS13 - Twilights Run
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TANARIS15 - The Noxious Lair
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TANARIS16 - The Gaping Chasm
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TANARIS17 - Timeless Tunnel
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TANARIS18 - Caverns of Time
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TELDRASSIL3 - Fel Rock
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TELDRASSIL4 - Upper Den
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TELDRASSIL5 - Lower Den
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_THEJADEFORESTSCENARIO1 - Burgled Brew
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_THELOSTISLES1 - Kaja'Mite Cavern
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_THELOSTISLES2 - Volcanoth's Lair
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_THELOSTISLES3 - Mine Tunnels
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_THELOSTISLES4 - Mine Shaft
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TIRISFAL13 - Scarlet Monastery Entrance
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TYRIVESS1 - Assault on Zan'Vess
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_UNGOROCRATER14 - The Slithering Scar
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_VALLEYOFPOWERSCENARIO1 - Temple of Kotmogu
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_WESTFALL4 - Gold Coast Quarry
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_WESTFALL5 - Jangolode Mine
  • ERR_ITEM_UPGRADE_ITEM_TOO_LOW_LEVEL - Item must be level 375 or higher
  • ERR_ITEM_UPGRADE_NO_MORE_UPGRADES - This item is fully upgraded
  • ERR_ITEM_UPGRADE_NO_PATH - Item cannot be upgraded
  • ERR_PETBATTLE_ALL_PETS_DEAD - All pets in your battle slots are dead.
  • ERR_PETBATTLE_NO_PETS_IN_SLOTS - Must have a pet in battle slot.
  • ERR_PVP_BLACKLIST_CAP - You have already blacklisted the maximum number of maps.
  • ERR_PVP_MAP_NOT_FOUND - Blacklisted map not set.
  • ITEM_UPGRADE_NO_MORE_UPGRADES - This item cannot be upgraded anymore.
  • POWER_TYPE_FOOD - Food
  • PRIEST_HOLY_CORE_ABILITY_6 - Use to switch from single-target healing to area healing or damage.
  • SPELL_FAILED_CUSTOM_ERROR_145 - Wait until the Onyx Serpent is overhead directly overhead.
  • SPELL_FAILED_CUSTOM_ERROR_164 - You must obtain a Flight Master's License before using this spell.
  • WHC_DK_2 - Presences have changed. Frost Presence now doubles runic power generation.
  • WHC_DRUID_2 - Feral specialization has been split into Feral, a Cat-based damage specialization and Guardian, a Bear-based tanking specialization.
  • WHC_TITLE_DK_2 - Presences
This article was originally published in forum thread: Mists of Pandaria Beta - Build 15689 started by chaud View original post
Comments 338 Comments
  1. Monekop's Avatar
    i am very excited about the black market. i dont have the cash to buy tcg mounts and pets and this seems to be a solution to that problem.
  1. mmoc6af618f320's Avatar
    Just yesterday I was saying to myself that I won't need gold in MoP... Boy was I wrong.
  1. Qij's Avatar
    I'm praying this doesn't make it on to live, This is just crossing the line in terms of a gold dump. T3 and extremely rare mounts available to buy off an AH, this is insane. It's going to give people even more reason to buy gold off those gold farmers that will be working ever so hard if this comes out.
  1. mmocb9db9223dd's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Qij View Post
    I'm praying this doesn't make it on to live, This is just crossing the line in terms of a gold dump. T3 and extremely rare mounts available to buy off an AH, this is insane. It's going to give people even more reason to buy gold off those gold farmers that will be working ever so hard if this comes out.
    Farming a ridiculous amount of gold is just as much effort as mindlessly farming a trivialized raid encounter.
  1. merrin's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Tycki View Post
    Farming a ridiculous amount of gold is just as much effort as mindlessly farming a trivialized raid encounter.
    Be that as it may, mindlessly farming a raidincounter still requires you to actually play the game and not just stand in the big city hubs and troll the AH.
  1. mmocb9db9223dd's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by merrin View Post
    Be that as it may, mindlessly farming a raidincounter still requires you to actually play the game and not just stand in the big city hubs and troll the AH.
    Playing the Auction House and taking advantage of the established economy is something that requires far more skill than zerging the same boss over and over because you alone have more stats than 3 raids of that time combined.
  1. Dezerte's Avatar
    The black market looks cool, gives gold a bit more value.
  1. wownomo's Avatar
    What game have you been playing for the last year and half? Everything is trivialized and meaningless in regard to "now anybody can have it". How many "Light of Dawns" do you have on your realm now vs pre-Cata? I can tell you we didn't have any in 3.X on my realm (4.0x post-shattering, pre-cata 1 guild finally got him), but we got a buttload now! How many ICC/Ulduar drakes? Kingslayers? There's more toons with these titles/mounts on my realm now even though our population has literally dropped in half since the end of Wrath. The only value these accomplishments have is that in which you take from it personally. Nothing is sacred or reserved for the uber-elite. Nice Savior title you just worked your ass on for the last 5 months, in another 5 months and band of 90 nubs will just hamfist their way to it and you'll never display "Savior of Whogivesacrap" above you toons head again. The Black Proto-Drake was the last "had to have been there and done that" reward for being awesome. This game is no longer catering to that 5% who are better at it than the other 95% who make up their ever revolving customer base of baddies, er I mean casuals.
  1. Erim's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Tycki View Post
    Farming a ridiculous amount of gold is just as much effort as mindlessly farming a trivialized raid encounter.
    people will just

    A) bot
    B) buy it from gold farmers
    C) play the auction house (kinda farming but only take 3-4 min a day)

    But I don't give a fuck as got over 200k already from AH
  1. Azerox's Avatar
    Black market, seems like the first fail i see for mop
  1. Skullchukka's Avatar
    Black market is a great idea. People who are saying that 'every kid who uses their parents credit cards can get ashes nao Q_Q' obviously don't realize something.
    These mounts will not be available always, neither will they go for 20k. My main (which I have not played for 3 months) was servers #4 richest with 2.2m gold, all earned legitimately. There is virtually nothing I can spend my money on. Nothing. If I see an Ashes of Alar on AH, you can bet that I will be willing to pay more than 50% of my current cash for it. Is it worth that much? For some, yes.

    Consider that. I'm talking about millions of gold. That average kid you despise will and can not buy a million of gold without getting banned. No way. Nada. Blizzard watches large gold transactions really carefully. Even I got questioned couple of times (to check that I was not a bot, for instance). If you get traded a million gold (to outbid me), Blizzard will instantly ban you.
  1. Lucky_Lucciano's Avatar
    Black Market AH is a great Idea.
  1. inyu's Avatar
    Black Market looks like a blizzard move to make people buy the mobile auction house service...
    was servers #4 richest with 2.2m gold
    How do you check that ? Gold stats are not displayed in armory stadistics.
  1. merrin's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Tycki View Post
    Playing the Auction House and taking advantage of the established economy is something that requires far more skill than zerging the same boss over and over because you alone have more stats than 3 raids of that time combined.
    I wrote nothing about skill, I wrote that it requires you to play the game, trolling ah doesnt constitute playing the game in my book.
    In the extreme scenario one could even do it from a mobile device and never actually have to log into to the game before getting ashes in the mailbox.

    Also wearing my tin foil hat, if this is a succes why not add other items? why not combine it with the realmoney auction house we know from diablo wich without a shadow of a doubt will spill over into wow sooner or later.. inb4 p2w

    Tin foil hat off again I have killed Kael'thas Sunstrider 95 times post 3.0 and have yet to see the mount drop. Now playing the AH is not somthing I like to do it simply so boring i would fart dust after very few days, I do however hold a job, and working my job very few hours, I would be able to buy the gold from a goldseller online.
  1. Darth Primus's Avatar
    First the cross server change for lower population areas, now the black market gold sink, Blizz becoming more and more smart everyday now...

    My only concern about this new AH is limited access, I would suggest that is allowed only for people above lvl 60, so we dont have rich kids transfer every week with their lvl 1 toons, to the best auctioned mount server.
    Apart from that, I wouldnt hope for Black Market AH mounts (at least in first months) because rares bids will exceed 500k++ per mount for sure!
  1. bi0's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Dancing Turkey View Post
    I have Ashes, I also have a spectral tiger mount, and I'm only too happy for this, if it means there are other ways of obtaining mounts, without having to raid. I personally don't have the time to be in a raiding guild, and adhering to their schedule, but if I am able to buy it, then it's something I can work towards over a period of time, doing the things I do have time for.

    +1 from me
    you realy think that you can farm the amount of gold a Botuser does when you dont even have enough time to raid (which takes 2-3h a week) ? retard
    BM AH is a total shit idea, even if i have over 25 million gold from 3 bots, its just for people who dont deserve it
  1. bi0's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    blablabla


    ..and it is always haters like you who think they get to call out "who deserves" something. Glad it isn't you Mr. 25 million gold from three bots. You certainly don't deserve anything but a ban.
    hi little kid, i just say who dont deserve it not who does. I dont say its a bad idea when there are no illegal ways to obtain gold like botting or buying it but this will never happen (blizz already lost their lawsuit (right word?) against honorbuddy) or you realy think there are not many people who buy gold or running bots? then wake up, the bm ah will just more people buy or bot their gold
  1. merrin's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Finally in all that rage somebody who gets it. Thumbs up.

    Funny how it is always "some idiot kid with too rich parents". Why not a 25 year old intelligent guy who doesn't raid but knows how to play the AH?

    Do you guys always nerdrage about rich old guys who get beautiful girls that you cannot get, fast cars and a big house - because they have maybe more money than you - or can affort other things that you never will? And if you concede that these old farts have maybe worked for that money all their life, do you nerdrage about inherited fortunes?

    ---------- Post added 2012-05-13 at 12:08 PM ----------



    ..and it is always haters like you who think they get to call out "who deserves" something. Glad it isn't you Mr. 25 million gold from three bots. You certainly don't deserve anything but a ban.
    After reading this i wonder if the poster considers himself one of those inteligent 25 y/o´s!

    BM seems to be for the 1% who have this luxury problem of having bought all the fast cars, the expensive women and still got change to spend.. Oh wait you can´t actually buy those in wow.. yet. This is madness you have been playing a socialistic game, NO WAY Romney will shake your hand now Son.
  1. Pancha's Avatar
    Is this really true? Am I finally able to get my Redemption gloves and finish my set? :O This is more than enough for me to come back and farm a shitload of gold!
  1. Soeroah's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by merrin View Post
    ...BM seems to be for the 1% who have this luxury problem...
    See, I don't get why people are so up in arms about how everyone will get an Ashes mount from the AH when only 1% even have that much gold to throw around.

    It's the same as account-wide mounts. People assume that since all the characters on one account will have access to a rare mount, they'll be less common, but it's not like someone can log in to two characters on their account at once. Just because some rare mounts appear on the BMAH doesn't mean they'll suddenly be owned by everyone; we don't know how often they show up, what the chances are, and the fact that only one person can win the mount any time it pops up, has to compete against the Horde and Alliance players on their realm who want it, and has to fork over potentially MASSIVE amounts of gold to the point they might only be able to afford two or three purchases means the mounts won't be as common as everyone seems to think.

    Depending on the rarity and availability, I'd even be more inclined to say getting an Ashes mount from the BMAH is more difficult and worthy of praise than getting it from TK is by this point. Obviously it was special back at level 70, but not so much anymore.

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