Green Fire Quests, Voidbinders Removed in 5.2, PTR Class Balance, Blue Posts, Comic

Patch 1.0.7 Datamined Information

Green Fire Questline Availability
It appears that all Warlocks will eventually be able to take part in the questline for green fire! One of the changes to the quest line that happened after our last recap: it now rewards Akama's Seal of Courage.



Voidbinders Taking a Break in 5.2
We got an official post today that expands upon what Ghostcrawler said on Twitter previously. He also let us know that you will have new Valor gear to spend your Valor Points on in Patch 5.2!


Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Even Ethereals need a vacation, and the item upgraders (Voidbinders), are no exception. They’re saying they need to go home to take care of business arrangements, but … I’m not convinced. I think they’re just homesick for their ‘space mummy’ families.

Ok ok, fourth wall broken, we’re actually just temporarily removing them from the game for 5.2 due to the new raid tier. The idea with the item upgrade system is that it’s a way to spend currency on upgrading items when buying new items isn’t the clear path. Either you’ve bought everything, or at least most of them, and then spend currency to get that extra *oomph*. With a new raid tier coming, we don’t want to create a trap where people are wondering what’s more lucrative: spend currency on new items, or on the new gear appearing on vendors? (Hint: It’s the new gear on vendors.) To help ensure we’re not indirectly encouraging anyone to spend their currency somewhere they probably shouldn’t, the item upgraders will be taking a break.

Right now we’re planning for them to return in 5.3, which will not have a raid tier, and offer upgrades again as people will have likely have some currency to burn. We’re not sure yet if we’ll continue this cycle of having them take a break for raid patches and then come back in non-raid patches, but we’ll continue evaluating as we go, absorb feedback, and let you know how these plans evolve.

Patch 5.2 PTR Class and Set Bonus Issues
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Hunter (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
  • Aimed Shot cast time has been lowered from 2.9 to 2.5 sec.

Shaman (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)

Paladin (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
  • The Protection 4pc counts damage after all mitigation, and does count absorbed damage.
  • The Retribution 4pc set bonus has changed. It now has a chance for Hammer of the Righteous or Crusader Strike to cause your next Divine Storm to cause extra damage to your target. The idea being that you might swap from TV to DS when you get the proc, so that the RNG is something you can actually do something with rather than it just being RNG for extra damage.
  • Retribution now does 50% extra healing with Flash Heal. The Selfless Healer talent has been reduced to 20/40/60% bonus healing.
  • Sacred Shield absorb effect is now dispellable, but the periodic effect is not.
  • Blinding Light has a 1.8 sec cast for Holy only. We think Holy's CC chains are too strong at the moment, but we don't think Ret or Prot need the nerf.

Death Knight (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
  • I said above that the Zandalari from the 2pc benefited from Unholy mastery. That was a bald-faced lie. It deals physical damage, like the ghoul.
  • There is a good chance we're going to redesign the 4pc DPS bonus.

Priest (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
  • The Golden Apparition from the Healing 4pc heals the lowest % health friendly target within 40yd. Note that it has no visual yet, but will not work like Shadowy Apparitions. It is a simple missile, not a summoned unit.
  • Further clarification on the Healing 2pc: the Glyph of Prayer of Mending will only boost the first heal. The glyph effects won’t be carried over due to the set bonus. It will be 160% -> 110% -> 121% -> 133% -> etc.
  • We are going to redesign Shadow Word: Insanity.
  • We are going to nerf Divine Aegis for Prayer of Healing, but also lower the cost of Power Word: Shield (for Disc only) and increase the healing and damage of Penance. In 25 raids, Disc is using Prayer of Healing almost exclusively and we don't think the Spirit Shell change will be sufficient to change that. We actually want Disc to get back to using PW:Shield a little more, along with Penance. Disc's throughput is overall too strong in PvE, not even counting the fact that absorbs are often more beneficial than heals.
  • Angelic Bulwark and Spirit Shell can no longer be dispelled.
  • The 4pc PvP bonus for healing priests has changed: Reduces the cooldown of Chakra by 25 sec and during Spirit Shell, Flash Heal costs 50% less mana.

Druid (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
  • The Guardian 4pc is currently a 50% increase to rage generation while Enraged.
  • We are going to slightly increase Resto druid healing across the board.
  • We still like the DR change to Cyclone, but we are going to increase its range to 30 yards, and the PvP glove bonus for Balance and Resto will be to increase Cyclone duration by 2 sec.

Monk (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
  • Spinning Fire Blossom's damage now scales from weapon damage rather than attack power. This will result in an intended nerf.

Keep in mind with those changes you haven't seen yet that they may change again before they reach the PTR.

Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Patch 5.2 PvP Gear Blog Coming This Week
Changing the PvP Honor gear from 483 to 476 next season is a HUGE mistake. You are making it impossible to enter PvP Arena/RBG on a near level playing field when people with full 2/2 Malevolent are starting the season with 491 gear and 498 T2 weapons.

This is the biggest gear disparity EVER in PvP. Usually Honor Gear > Last season PvP gear so players can have a fresh start and compete on semi-even playing field. You guys are making a huge mistake and you have time to fix it. Please listen to you community and don't go through with these changes.
Not to worry, there's already stuff in the works, and the item level change on that gear is just a smaller part of the larger picture.

We'll be posting a blog that explains the upcoming changes later this week. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Daily Quests Feedback
You want gear? Do dailies. You want quests? Dailies. You want end-game content without raiding eight days a week? Dailies, dailies, dailies.
You want gear?
Do heroics, Raid Finder, Scenarios, upgrade items, PVP (for PVP gear, of course)

You want quests?
Do the quests you haven't finished while leveling through Pandaria. Or yes, do dailies (let's not forget it's "daily quests").

End-game content without raiding:
Pet battles, Scenarios, Heroics, Challenge Dungeons, PVP.

And in any case, casual players can still play the game just as always, at their own pace. There's no requirement for you to have everything at a particular pace (especially if you aren't really on the raiding competition).

Daily quests being the only way for reputation was, is, and will always be BAD.
Why is this the case?

If you want the gear purely for progression terms, LFR is readily available and you won't have to go through reputations, you can also get some 496 items from crafting (though I bet those won't be exactly cheap if you need to look for a crafter you don't know at all).

Other than gear, what the reputation is giving you access to right now is just vanity items. On which case, why do you think it's unfair to invest some time leveling the reputation of those factions that offer you a vanity reward you want? (especially considering that, thanks to Grand Commendations, it doesn't take as long to raise reputations to Exalted as it did during 5.0). (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

TFB Hotfix on Arena Pass Realm
We have a problem with latest hotfix patch not being live there (30% battle fatigue and fire blast glyph, warrior 3 stack tfb).
Thanks for the report Minpojke, we just want to let all of you know that this is something that we are actively looking into at the moment. We will keep you updated if any new information comes to light. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Future
Maybe focus on the PTR/Beta feedback instead to avoid having millions on forums e-mails and twitter?
We definitely give more weight to players who have actually tried something. (Source)

How do you feel about a flimsy/squishy class getting a 'touch me, and you'll regret it' type of ability in the next expac?
Doesn't that take a weakness and make it not a weakness? (Source)

I've always wondered what's your take on innovation in games? Blizzard isn't known for it per se but what do you think?
It's tricky. IMO sometimes features get lauded as innovative my jaded gamers when really they're just different (and bad). (Source)
I think it's fare to say that World of Warcraft has had many innovations but do you feel recent expansions have had enough?
Is tons of innovation what the game needs? It needs enough for players getting bored, but risky for folks who are happy. (Source)

Derp, I dont think he ment that he was asking is there any plans for more space i.e bigger bags??
I get that, but we don't think heading towards 50 slot bags is the answer. Less stuff to put in bags might be. (Source)

Sunsong Ranch changes sound good. Now allow some personalization and some item storage space, and we've got player housing.
Isn't an important part of player housing being able to show off your stuff? (Source)

Battle.net Desktop App
Something interesting showed up in tonight's Diablo III Patch 1.0.7 PTR datamining. One of the new client strings was "Region selection is disabled when Diablo III is launched from the Battle.net Desktop app." In addition to this, the Battle.net Producer job opening had a new line added to it somewhat recently: "Battle.net App – developing the next-generation Battle.net desktop client."



The Daily Blink - Don’t Worry Blizz, We Got This Designed
The Daily Blink has designed a new role selection screen.

Not Listed: Assignment for 'Raider who is frustrated he can't select multiple roles, which, given this list, means that we should probably just boot them from the raid anyways'
This article was originally published in forum thread: Green Fire Quests, Voidbinders Removed in 5.2, PTR Class Balance, Blue Posts, Comic started by chaud View original post
Published on 2013-01-15 07:45 AM
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  1. mmoc6513cc48dc's Avatar
    Let's play a game of spot the pve player, who thinks he knows whats right or wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Doodfish View Post
    Hate cyclone changes, wasnt that OP in the first place, you're immune.
    FOUND ONE!
  1. dragons's Avatar
    Retribution now does 50% extra healing with Flash Heal. The Selfless Healer talent has been reduced to 20/40/60% bonus healing.

    Sure blizzard make Rets more useless in PvP then they are allready, probably an idear from that brainless Ghostcrawler
  1. Mousa's Avatar
    I love The Daily Blink today! And I think I could fit many of the roles! Multitalented player here, I'm telling you!
  1. subanark's Avatar
    As per Daily Blink, glad I'm not doing 25s.

    As for my roles,

    -> Raid leader, but not actually leading the raid.
    -> Loot master that gets left behind handing out loot while raid does trash for next boss.
  1. SodiumChloride's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroWashu View Post
    I am quite willing to go back to Wrath days, we lost far too many people with Cataclysm and even MOP didn't get many of those back. The problem in my original guild was we first lost the wife/girlfriend/etc and then the other half which gutted one guild I was in and then another even after merges. People simply don't understand that what they see as a challenge others see as annoyance. With the new challenge modes and scenarios there are more than enough tough content for the real hard core players, the problem has always been the water cooler hard cores who only have ability on message boards...
    Well, for a game to be fun it has to be challenging, but not so challenging that people get pissed off and give up. Unfortunately, the threshold for "too challenging" is different for everyone. Blizzard finally figured that out around the time of Wrath, hence the progressive "content nerfing" - which I believe that was a stop gap measure until LFR was up and running.
  1. Wildtree's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Drarion View Post
    Its a nipple, not a condom.
    I thought it was an orange?

    ---------- Post added 2013-01-15 at 10:30 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by subanark View Post
    As per Daily Blink, glad I'm not doing 25s.

    As for my roles,

    -> Raid leader, but not actually leading the raid.
    -> Loot master that gets left behind handing out loot while raid does trash for next boss.
    And then someone bitching why you have such a low amount of overall damage? lol
  1. DarkZero's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by clongetty View Post
    So with the removal of the voidbinders, we wont be able to upgrade untill 5.3...
    It means we wont be able to level PVP gear also? how are people supposed to gear up and compete with 2/2 malevolent gear when we can't upgrade ours?
    By buying the new gear. It's going to be a new season after all.
  1. zrankfappa's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nerraw View Post
    A reset is likely.
    No, they won't reset. When patch drops VP will be converted into JP, and current VP gear will be able to be bought with JP.

    This is typically how it works.
  1. Azrile's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Vesci View Post
    Really not liking this "exclusivity" trend lately from Blizzard. First "content" patch with fight club, now making the Warlock quest line "exclusive". I don't pay to not be able to see things. Also not liking their defense of dailies. They suck, they a were bad idea, it was a mistake, admit it and do something else. Oh well, I guess it will take lost subs again to open their eyes.
    you are joking right? Brawler´s guild was éxclusive´ for like 2 days on most realms. By the end of the first week they were going for under 2k.

    Dailies were not a mistake.. stupid players thinking they had to do them was the problem. If you hated them that much, don´t do them.. if you raid, you get your gear from that. Even more stupid were the players who thought they had to do all of them every day. The only problem with dailies is there were a lot of really stupid people the first 2 weeks.
  1. clongetty's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkZero View Post
    By buying the new gear. It's going to be a new season after all.
    Do conquest/honor points resets at the start of a new season?
  1. Gurbz's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by clongetty View Post
    Do conquest/honor points resets at the start of a new season?
    Conquest/Valor will likely be converted of Honor/Justice, with anything over the hard cap being converted into gold. The 5.0/5.1 gear would be purchasable with the lower currency type. That is how it was handled every time a new tier came out before. That said, Blizzard has indicated that they are doing something different with PvP gear this time.
  1. Rolly's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Vesci View Post
    Really not liking this "exclusivity" trend lately from Blizzard. First "content" patch with fight club, now making the Warlock quest line "exclusive". I don't pay to not be able to see things. Also not liking their defense of dailies. They suck, they a were bad idea, it was a mistake, admit it and do something else. Oh well, I guess it will take lost subs again to open their eyes.
    Agreed....
  1. gutnbrg's Avatar
    what cc chain are they talking about for holy pallies? Dont prot pallies have more cc then holy anyway when u include avengers shield? i dont understand how holys cc chain can be stronger than prot?
  1. Shaley's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    You do know your daily blink post there has 26 options, not 25.
    thatsthejoke.jpg
  1. Blood Crusade's Avatar
    My closest would be the cheerleader Though that's usually when i'm on the ground dead cause I stood in shit and now all I can do is watch the bosses health tick down. There we go, where's that option? The guy(s) who always stand in shit.
  1. mmoc1eac56a8df's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Vesci View Post
    Really not liking this "exclusivity" trend lately from Blizzard. First "content" patch with fight club, now making the Warlock quest line "exclusive". I don't pay to not be able to see things. Also not liking their defense of dailies. They suck, they a were bad idea, it was a mistake, admit it and do something else. Oh well, I guess it will take lost subs again to open their eyes.
    The defence of dailies by that clown is pointless. He has no opinion he just defends Blizzards current policy. Next expansion there will be the usual "people felt forced" & "didn’t give enough options" admission and the same blue poster will be defending the new position completely forgetting the bollocks spouted previously.
  1. Self Inflicted Wounds's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Attsey View Post
    The defence of dailies by that clown is pointless. He has no opinion he just defends Blizzards current policy. Next expansion there will be the usual "people felt forced" & "didn’t give enough options" admission and the same blue poster will be defending the new position completely forgetting the bollocks spouted previously.
    If only their 'poor, forced' player base would stop bitching about "being forced" ... man, if only... then they could focus on important things...
  1. mmoc1eac56a8df's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonpartyfan View Post
    If only their 'poor, forced' player base would stop bitching about "being forced" ... man, if only... then they could focus on important things...
    Have you considered that people may well feel forced to do them? You can say they are wrong all you like, dosent change a thing.
  1. Self Inflicted Wounds's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Attsey View Post
    Have you considered that people may well feel forced to do them? You can say they are wrong all you like, dosent change a thing.
    Then to that, I say, grow up and control your emotions. If you are so swayed by having daily quests available to you means you feel forced, you should see a shrink.

    With that logic, even having few dailies would make you feel forced. So we should just take them out all together. But Ho! the crazy masses will then feel forced to have to do the regular zone quests too wouldn;t they? I guess we should remove those.

    Translation? I want the rep/gear/gold/rewards, but I don't want to do the work involved. There is no forcing at all. This is like saying "People who insult me are forcing me to hit them! Not my fault!"
  1. mmoc04a0b4b9f9's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nerraw View Post
    A reset is likely.
    Can anyone else confirm this please?!
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