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Patch 5.3 Live - Build 17116
A new live patch is on the way, which may be related to the odd Wednesday maintenance for the US.
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Spell Changes
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Talents
  • Force of Nature had Balance treant Wrath damage increased by 25%. This may reflect an old 5.3 hotfix.

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Patch 5.3 Hotfixes - June 25
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Quests
  • Send Word to Phaoris: Players should now be placed into the correct phase after the cutscene, allowing the quest to be completed.
  • Slash and Burn: Players should now be placed into the correct phase after the cutscene, allowing the quest to be completed.

Raids, Dungeons, and Scenarios
  • Throne of Thunder
    • Durumu the Forgotten
      • Hidden Fogs leading up to the Durumu encounter should now be more responsive while engaged in combat with players.
    • Horridon
      • Reduced the health of Gurubashi, Amani, Drakkari, and Farraki combatants by 10%, and reduced the damage of their abilities like Sand Trap and Frozen Orb by 20% for the Horridon encounter on 10-player Normal difficulty.

50% Off Moonkin Hatchling Pet - This Week Only
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
The googly-eyed Moonkin Hatchling, which comes in unique Horde and Alliance versions, is on sale this week for just $5. These adorable little creatures will occasionally plant flowers at your feet and happily /dance with any willing partners. This sale ends July 1, 2013 at 11:59 p.m. PDT, so pick up an egg of your own while the moon is right.

Arena Pass Reward
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Just wanting to add in some information here to avoid any false expectations from the Arena Pass rewards. Unfortunately at this time we have no plans to change up the pet that is rewarded for participating in 50 games in this years Arena Pass . This means that the pet you get rewarded in the mail will be Murkimus' Tiny Spear.

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
World
Don't you think big reason people stuck in capitals instead of exploring world is absence of LFG and Trade channels?
In Cat? No. They had no need to chat with anyone because they could random queue for all the gear they'd need. (Source)
We'd be willing to try a global LFG channel again, but I think you'd be buried in (ahem) anal spells and Chuck Norris jokes. (Source)
you say in CAT, but all the queues for heroic dungeons and LFR etc are still here. Yes, we have more dailies.
But you can earn things like valor or charms by going out into the world. Dungeons and raids don't deliver every single reward. (Source)

Disagree. CRZ puts several servers worth of griefers into one zone, causes zone disruption. leveling becomes impossible.
We aim to combine enough realms with CRZ to make each feel full. If there are a lot of folks around, that is kind of the goal. (Source)
That was the intended and often real experience when more folks were leveling and the pop wasn't so skewed to max level. (Source)

Are you really trying to say that having cross-server 90s camping all low level zones is the intended experience?
That wasn't what I said. I was remarking that you seemed surprised to have players attack you while leveling on a PvP server. (Source)

So GC, the all-faction multi-tap is nice, but i still got an issue. Could you see a future solution?
We're not big fans of all-faction tap overall. You should be angry that a Horde tapped your mob! (Source)
What about on PVE servers where that just makes it a pointless race? I want to play -with- my peers, not against them.
If you are Alliance, Horde are not your peers. At most you should consider them a tool to be used, then discarded. (Source)
care to explain why we're not burning org to the ground and slaughtering orc women and children in 5.4 then?
You can be enemies without resorting to genocide. (Source)

Aren't profession catch-up mechanisms against goal of "making the world feel populated"? Why visit old world if not for AH?
We want players out in the world. That doesn't have to mean high level characters in low level zones. (Source)
You want to take away reasons for 90s to visit lowbie zones? Players would be missing out; an excuse like AH gets us to visit.
What we have typically seen up until now is those players just don't level up their professions. It's not worth going back. (Source)

Many players hate CRZ - are you absolutely sure, game needs it?
Yes. (Source)

Misc
Trivia: Kalgan single-handedly made almost all of the vanilla talent trees. Trivia: Kalgan still leads the team. (Source)

why do so many long time players (me included) feel BC was the best xpac even though it was the least accessible?
I suspect because even basic elements of WoW still felt new and shiny then. Even the best things in life aren't immune from fatigue (Source)
Players say they like a certain expansion, but what Blizzard wants to know is WHY they like that expansion?
True. But often the answer is "Those were the glory days of WoW for me," which is hard to recreate with just new content. (Source)

He's worried that the Alliance in 5.4 will just be along for the ride while the Horde gets all the glory.
I understand the concern, but it's one of those no-win battles for us. (Source)
Red & Blue are both certain that the other gets special treatment. But as I said, a lil' Red v Blue rivalry aint bad. (Source)

with features such as LFR people have a 'log on, dailies, LFR, log off' attitude now, this is where I lost my ingame friends
Yeah it's a tough thing to solve, because that play style works very well with some people's real life commitments. (Source)

Some way to regain the lost sense of server community would help. Right now we only play with guildies and random strangers.
I think that is well put especially the second sentence. (Source)

even a 'history' of party members would help: "you grouped with X,Y,Z in yesterday's dungeon and X is online now"
Totally. (Source)

Any chance of toning down other players spell effects on boss encounters, or having a setting for that. Can hardly see boss!
Yes. Working on it. (Source)

Two things that the forum posting / tweeting community tend to overestimate: number of multiboxers, number of players interested in raiding. (Source)
Not sure if it's an echo chamber effect or if posters / tweeters tend to be hardcore or what. Just an observation. (Source)

Suit Up collapsed. Exodus collapsed. I've been in 3 25 mans this tier, all have collapsed. Please do something.
My understanding was that Exodus did not "collapse" from a 10 v 25 issue. Is that what you're implying? (Source)
They're not collapsing from 10 vs 25 issues. Burnout is happening, less raiders are around and 10s result. Or they disband.
They put in 100s of attempts and demand multiple fully geared alts per player. That's not something most heroic raiders deal with. (Source)
it was my understanding in their interview it was their own fault that type of gameplay was too much to bear.
I wasn't trying to blame them if that was the impression I gave. I think it's just the natural evolution of the competition. (Source)

Curious, After we goto Argus next expac (wink) theres no more wow zones in lore to give us.Redoing old zones the expac future?
You don't think we can keep whipping continents out of thin air? (Source)

Span and Port are diff lang. Why put them both in Chi Data Cntr? US servers there now have to deal w/ 2 lang barriers. Why?
I don't know in this case. Usually it is to have a large enough group to support matchmaking. (Source)

If Players want old school: aka no lfr, flying, w/e, Is worth trying a new realm type for old school? pvp/rp/pve/"classic".
No LFR and flying wouldn't be too hard. Going back to old talents, weapon skill, old quests would be very hard. (Source)

Voice com. required turns me off. Would love a challenge and not put on headphones,rand-bgs are getting there
Yeah, that's a tough challenge for gaming in general. Typing is just really slow. (Source)

Do you think you should publicly announce when bots have been banned. It will show the system works and might deter botting.
I think the head on a pike strategy can work as a deterrent. (Source)

SWTOR got random groups correct. It is server based. Server based leads to accountability.
Realm based groups would have a very long queue time, especially on off-peak hours. How long are you willing to wait? (Source)

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DLC #395 has been released!

This article was originally published in forum thread: Season 14 Priest Set, Patch 5.3 Build 17116, June 25 Hotfixes, Blue Tweets, DLC #395 started by chaud View original post
Published on 2013-06-26 09:42 AM
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  1. The Ogdru Jahad's Avatar
    Yay priests get to be Tyriel now! spelling...
  1. Phaidrae's Avatar
    The wings on the priest set are just goofy looking. Honestly I really don't like them. Good thing none of my toons ever end up with tier gear anymore...I haven't really liked any of the sets from this expasion.

    I mean, is it me - or does armor just keep getting bulkier and heavier looking? Half of the robes I see anymore don't even look like they're made of cloth these days but rather leather.

    I'd like to see a toned down gear set made at some point. A robe that actually looks like it's made of cloth; plate gear that wouldn't weigh a metric ton. Bigger is NOT always better.
  1. otakuman523's Avatar
    anyone who was signing up for the arena pass this year for the pet that has already paid for the pass and has the old pet I have news, if you have the old pet and did this again this year solely for the new model you can put in a ticket to support to have your payment refunded. just got done speaking with customer support and had my 20$ entry fee refunded to me.
  1. Durandro's Avatar
    Some of those blue posts were pretty stupid, essentially ignoring the actual question being asked and trying to turn the whole problem of being ganked constantly while leveling into a positive.

    No! Stop that! If you're going to have CRZ then only take people from that zone's leveling band! World PvP between players around the same level is fine, but when you have max levels running around killing at random its not. Easily solved problem, and the world will still feel 'full'.
  1. Tyraena's Avatar
    All the kids who joined late in the game and got used to empty non-max level zones need to get over it. The game wasn't designed to provide your own little questing and farming commune. Having leveled 8 chars with CRZ so far, and 3 to go, I think the sense of population is fantastic, and very reminiscent of Vanilla. Except in Vanilla I played on a PvP server, which made it far more interesting.
  1. Garrikk's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Durandro View Post
    Some of those blue posts were pretty stupid, essentially ignoring the actual question being asked and trying to turn the whole problem of being ganked constantly while leveling into a positive.

    No! Stop that! If you're going to have CRZ then only take people from that zone's leveling band! World PvP between players around the same level is fine, but when you have max levels running around killing at random its not. Easily solved problem, and the world will still feel 'full'.
    I personally enjoy watching out for max level toons on my pvp server. Why roll on a pvp server if you don't enjoy the thrill of being a new toon that is just starting his journey as a beginner, you are essentially starting a weak, fresh character in a world full of people who are already badass and powerful? My first toon was on a pvp realm. Had no idea what I was doing and when level 80's came through with their badass gear and ganked me I was like OH MY GOD THAT WAS BADASS.

    You are forgetting that wow is an expansive world full of powerful heroes. That was what drew me to wow, the journey to become a powerful hero myself while getting smashed up by people who had already put in the time and dedication it takes to level a toon through a pvp server.
  1. Glorious Leader's Avatar
    Another MASSIVE nerf for horridon and it's not even 5.4 yet. Somehow I doubt we'll get agreement that ToT is simple to hard and to overtuned even when the actions of the developers seem to suggest exactly that.
  1. Raxxed's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious Leader View Post
    Another MASSIVE nerf for horridon and it's not even 5.4 yet. Somehow I doubt we'll get agreement that ToT is simple to hard and to overtuned even when the actions of the developers seem to suggest exactly that.
    It's simply as you stated, overtuned. This leads it to 'feel' hard. In reality it's not hard, it's just people with low gear, low skill, or a combination of both.
    The raid is obviously intended for a much higher gear level than most people are walking into ToT with. Horridon being the second boss pretty much totally fucks anyone who gets stuck on him. Don't worry guys we can get some more gear during next weeks fa-- oh wait, the only farm boss is Jinrokh.
    With proper gear Horridon just melts, but if you're walking in there with a raid ilvl of anything less than 500 you're going to have a bad time unless you don't suck at the game, i.e an alt run.
    T16 seems to be fixing this issue, the first wing is tuned for 520 ilvl. You can get that without even trying these days.
    Each wing seems to increase by 5-10 ilvl in terms of tuning (Basing this off only 4 bosses), and the gear ilvl dropping is phenomenal. The raid should be much more widely cleared.
  1. tuesday the paladin's Avatar
    Love that green color priest set. But I get the feeling we won't see that one. Also feathers look a bit misplaced on a priest set.
  1. mmoc3dde1cb131's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Raxxed View Post
    It's simply as you stated, overtuned. This leads it to 'feel' hard. In reality it's not hard, it's just people with low gear, low skill, or a combination of both.
    The raid is obviously intended for a much higher gear level than most people are walking into ToT with. Horridon being the second boss pretty much totally fucks anyone who gets stuck on him. Don't worry guys we can get some more gear during next weeks fa-- oh wait, the only farm boss is Jinrokh.
    With proper gear Horridon just melts, but if you're walking in there with a raid ilvl of anything less than 500 you're going to have a bad time unless you don't suck at the game, i.e an alt run.
    T16 seems to be fixing this issue, the first wing is tuned for 520 ilvl. You can get that without even trying these days.
    Each wing seems to increase by 5-10 ilvl in terms of tuning (Basing this off only 4 bosses), and the gear ilvl dropping is phenomenal. The raid should be much more widely cleared.
    I really hope this is true.

    I am quite scared that because of Flex it might go the other way and normal's might be tuned higher.

    We are one of the guilds that got stuck on Horridon 3 weeks after our first kill (which took 10 weeks) we are now working on rampage 6 on Megaera which seems much nicer progress.

    I don't want Blizzard to overtune normals again and just say "its ok you can do Flex".
  1. mmoc4e88aac91c's Avatar
    Hahahahahaha bruised fanny xD I do hope Blizz realise fanny means female bits to a lot of people in europe!
  1. mmoce3d157ab83's Avatar
    WARNING: Seesaw may not support fully grown and/or armored adventurers. Seesaw may launch overly enthusiastic riders into the lower atmosphere. Seesaw may result in bruised egos and/or fannies.
    Haha somehow I think they'll need to reword that before it reaches live in the UK! Sounds very painful Dx
  1. Glorious Leader's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Raxxed View Post
    It's simply as you stated, overtuned. This leads it to 'feel' hard. In reality it's not hard, it's just people with low gear, low skill, or a combination of both.
    The raid is obviously intended for a much higher gear level than most people are walking into ToT with. Horridon being the second boss pretty much totally fucks anyone who gets stuck on him. Don't worry guys we can get some more gear during next weeks fa-- oh wait, the only farm boss is Jinrokh.
    With proper gear Horridon just melts, but if you're walking in there with a raid ilvl of anything less than 500 you're going to have a bad time unless you don't suck at the game, i.e an alt run.
    T16 seems to be fixing this issue, the first wing is tuned for 520 ilvl. You can get that without even trying these days.
    Each wing seems to increase by 5-10 ilvl in terms of tuning (Basing this off only 4 bosses), and the gear ilvl dropping is phenomenal. The raid should be much more widely cleared.
    Well it is overtuned you've got that much right. We'll see about t16. After seeing the ptr streams I have no illusions.

    ---------- Post added 2013-06-27 at 12:31 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Quilzar View Post
    ess.

    I don't want Blizzard to overtune normals again and just say "its ok you can do Flex".
    Apparently expect this. If it helps just expect that flex is really the new normal.
  1. mmoccefed1f20e's Avatar
    I kinda hope that only the damage ability reduction is for normal mode, while the health reduction is for Heroic as well.
  1. Nuvuk's Avatar
    I must get the seesaw!
  1. Notos's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Durandro View Post
    Some of those blue posts were pretty stupid, essentially ignoring the actual question being asked and trying to turn the whole problem of being ganked constantly while leveling into a positive.

    No! Stop that! If you're going to have CRZ then only take people from that zone's leveling band! World PvP between players around the same level is fine, but when you have max levels running around killing at random its not. Easily solved problem, and the world will still feel 'full'.
    They ignore those kinds of posts because they have stated their response to the "issue" of high level ganking long ago. It has been in the game from day 1 and will continue on. You roll on a pvp server, you'd better expect and accept it. Nothing stops you from getting on your main and fighting back or guarding other lowbies from attacks. Hell, I remember guilds actually organizing patrols in low level zones to protect their lowbies from gankers back in Vanilla, and some epic pvp usually tended to ensue.
  1. Robert3620's Avatar
    The tuning doesn't matter anymore. The guilds that were destroyed and the players that have quit are gone. They are not coming back and I do not think your getting people back into normal during this expansion at least. Blizzard has no clue how the poor choices they have made this expansion have lead to a total break down in the raiding community and the general community as well. My friend list is empty, my guild is empty, my server is empty. Flex raiding maybe a nice start but I think it's really too late at this point.
  1. Beroendet's Avatar
    damn! that priest gear is out of this world!!
  1. mmocc17a7af6c5's Avatar
    best set ever, and i hate priest, believe me
  1. questina's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by otakuman523 View Post
    anyone who was signing up for the arena pass this year for the pet that has already paid for the pass and has the old pet I have news, if you have the old pet and did this again this year solely for the new model you can put in a ticket to support to have your payment refunded. just got done speaking with customer support and had my 20$ entry fee refunded to me.
    So we don't need to pay and grind out the 50 games naked? We can just get the updated model? That is great news!
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