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Warlords of Draenor - All Mounts Work as Ground Mounts
Almost all mounts will work as ground mounts in Warlords of Draenor!



Warlords of Draenor Flying
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
I've already said that what we said at BlizzCon still holds true at current. If ongoing development changes this including testing, feedback, and etc, then we'll keep people informed. We are in the midst of development and as with anytime we get into it, we often will change design ideas or implementations from what we originally thought we wanted to do to what we believe will more likely work better. We will continue to discuss our ideas as openly as possible (as Alex did) and keep an eye out on constructive feedback. We will do our utmost to address as many concerns that people may have as possible while still keeping in mind the overall health and objectives we have for the game.

We don't work in stone and design is a very fluid thing. We're going to keep moving forward toward creating fun experiences for as many people as possible. I said this over on Twitter and I'll say it again here- "Sometimes I feel I need to say this, but game design decisions are not personal. They aren't meant to cause personal distress. We do care." We want to make sure that Warlords of Draenor (and the game as a whole) continues to deliver truly great experiences and plenty of fun.

Battle.Net Launcher Feedback
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
The fact that YOU think I need MY desktop 'cleaned up' or I can't keep it organized is pretty damned infuriating and condescending, quite frankly.
I don't personally care what your desktop looks like or how many icons you have on it, or if you're able or not able to keep track of them; but icons on your desktop has little-to-nothing to do with offering a unified launcher platform. You can have the Battle.net app create a desktop icon for each game still, if that's what you want to click on.

Right now each of our games is started through a launcher. The launchers help ensure games are up to date, offer functionality to launch other versions (beta/PTR/etc.), has some file management tools (repair), provide quick links to helpful resources (support), and helps bring info front and center when starting a game like patch notes, game info, news, etc.

Instead of having separate launchers for each game, which are individually updated and maintained, and each of which also likely having different requirements and specifics for how it works and operates, it makes a lot of sense for us to have a single platform (e.g. launcher) that brings all the games together under a single roof, streamlines our platforms, and provides a single launcher--instead of many of them--to provide the same features those launchers always have, plus more, and additional flexibility to add features into the future.

If you're launching Blizzard games now, it's quite likely you're seeing a launcher, and that's not really any different than seeing the Battle.net desktop app "launcher".

What the heck ever happened to just double clicking the executable and running the game. That doesn't need "improving."
Online games, like World of Warcraft, usually require that everyone playing use the same files and file versions to ensure content parity. If you and I are playing and the information we each hold about the game differs, it becomes exceedingly difficult for the server to reconcile how those differences play out and also how the client perceives those differences. Everyone needs to be playing the same game, essentially. To help try to make that process smoother, a launcher that starts up before the game checks file versions when starting the game. If your files are not current a patch is downloaded and installed. Additionally, we've added functionality for the launcher to download future patch data ahead of time to reduce the time required on patch day to get into the game, as well as the ability to stream game data so that the entire game doesn't need to be downloaded for new players, or those just reinstalling.

World of Warcraft has had a launcher for the purposes of file version verification since at least 2003. The Battle.net desktop app is, for the purposes of this discussion, an updated launcher.

However: I recommend Blizzard create a list of offline games to play specifically during patch downloads.
If you used the launcher you'd have downloaded the patch data well in advance, and wouldn't need to wait.

Just don't make the battle.net app mandatory in the future. I like double clicking the WoW icon from my desktop to launch WoW. Kthxbai.
You can still do that with the Battle.net app. Cya.

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
PvP
is tyrannical gear, for those who like it as x-mog, never to be obtainable again? strange: all other MoP pvp gear is available
It will become available again on a vendor in a future patch. (holinka)

Why the change to feats for PVP titles? Are they going to be permanent now or something?
We've made technical changes to how we deliver rewards and we added a Feat of Strength. Titles are still temporary. (holinka)
IE feats stay, but after a season you lose the title it grants.
Yes you keep the achievement but lose the title. (holinka)
Are the feats permanent, though? Do they stay as 'proof' of your accomplishment for the season? Or gone in S16.
You will always have the achievement that says "Season 14" (holinka)

season 15? .............15.......I've been playing this game for too long.
Yeah, we have been talking about that. The numbers are getting high enough that players are often confused about what season it is. (holinka)

So if we're getting 3 new world bosses, which are dropping the PvP gear?
We're still sorting that out. A lot of things are going to be different. (holinka)
Also keep in mind there were multiple world bosses at MoP launch as well. (holinka)
Should be a chest in a FFA zone somewhere with PvP item in it with a long respawn time.(wtbgurubashi)
Agree it would be fun to so more of this sort of thing (holinka)
By "FFA" you mean "come with the most friends so you can solo loot the chest," right?
World PvP, it can be pretty mean. (holinka)

any plans for fixing Wintergrasp and Tol Barad for Warlords?
Not at this point. The best thing to do would be convert them to battlegrounds, but it requires significant work. (holinka)

Future
What happened to expanding the Darkmoon Faire? All those unused tents depress me....
Me too. (Dave_Maldo)
Any plans?
Yes. But my purple octopus monster hat-dropping world boss didn't make it in yet, either, so who knows when. (Dave_Maldo)

So tabards... Are they likely to get a tab? If not, can Scarlet Tabard be added to the vendor for my other toons?
Maybe! And I believe the vendor only covers achievement/perma-lost tabards, not bought or mob-dropped (Heroic Harlan has it). (Dave_Maldo)

PvP Tournament This Weekend
PvP Live is holding a tournament this weekend, starting at 2PM EST / 11 AM PST on Saturday and 12:30 PM EST / 9:30 AM PST on Sunday. Eight teams are competing in a double elimination tournament casted by Azael and Vhell. You can watch the games on Twitch.



TCG Art Update
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This article was originally published in forum thread: WoD - All Mounts Work as Ground Mounts, Launcher Feedback, Blue Tweets, TCG Art started by chaud View original post
Published on 2014-03-15 08:21 AM
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  1. Sinister Knight's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocheku View Post
    Soooooo phoenix mounts suddenly will sprout legs?

    /logic
    Because in a world with MAGIC, you need legs to move along the ground? Ever had Levitate cast on you? You can't fly can you, but you can still hover along the ground. So many people can't think laterally in this thread, it's rather depressing.
  1. mmoc5f651aac41's Avatar
    I will still be riding my Raven Lord!
  1. Aqua's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by missamy View Post
    All Mounts Work as Ground Mounts

    Well that is just a stupid idea!
    Ashes of al'ar has no legs!!
    Yeah I was just thinking of my challenge mode Pheonix as it shares the frame... heheh, I'M STILL TECHNICALLY FLYING! CAN'T STOP ME, my whole inch off the ground! Rebellion!
  1. mmocbeba583bd0's Avatar
    Mounts decision is a bad one. As if we don't have enough huge mounts. Now with flying mounts working as ground mounts it will be harder than ever to interact with NPCs.
  1. CaptainArlong's Avatar
    No, the difference is in MoP and other expansions, when you hit max level, you're allowed to fly. This time, it's no flying until they decide to put it in. They're trying to force everyone to play a certain way. I don't care about scenery, or "adventure", it's a video game, and I want to get from point A to point B as quickly as possible. My opinion is a fact, as World of Warcraft is first and foremost, a video game. Anyone else's opinion that differs is just that, an opinion. You can get your jollies from looking at a digital forest, that doesn't change the fact that WoW is a video game. Flying does not change your gameplay, you just want to take your time, so do so. I don't see why that view has to be shoved down the throats of people who just want to play a video game.

    But what do I care, I won't be paying $50 for an expansion to such an old game.
  1. Pojo458's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Collected View Post
    I don't blame him forgetting angry. The way people respond to any change these days if wow was in beta today it would probably never be a success because people would be butt hurt about the slightest thing. The launcher is great, I'm not sure how anyone could hate it.
    I agree, it makes logging into WoW so much easier because you don't need to enter an auth code every single login
  1. Solzan Nemesis's Avatar
    Good. I want to ride my cloud serpent everywhere.
  1. Doomchicken's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainArlong View Post
    My opinion is a fact, as World of Warcraft is first and foremost, a video game. Anyone else's opinion that differs is just that, an opinion.
    Wow. Nice arrogance you got going there champ. Do you want your worshipers to rub your feet now o clearly mighty and all knowing lord?
  1. lunchbox2042's Avatar
    Bulky mounts don't work on the ground. It's bad enough when people are on the Traveler's Mammoth or Grand Expedition Yak.
  1. Grandore's Avatar
    All mounts as ground mounts?! That is the stupidest idea ever! Seriously why don't we make all ground mounts flying mounts while we're at it huh? We already have panthers and horses that can fly for no reason! It would make about as much sense as walking around on a dragon that has wings but yet for some unexplained reason it can't fly. STUPID!!!!
  1. Theosis's Avatar
    Flying is something I enjoy most about WoW. It is part of what I pay for. I don't care about those that say I'm a crybaby for wanting to fly.. they pay to do what they want Ill pay to do what I want. WoW is making a very bad decision about this because many people feel as I do.
  1. themightysven's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by missamy View Post
    All Mounts Work as Ground Mounts

    Well that is just a stupid idea!
    Ashes of al'ar has no legs!!
    I'll be interested to see how that works for Abyssal Seahorse
  1. Murg's Avatar
    I like how over the last few days, an off-handly said "I think we could make a world where people love it without flying" to mean "Almost surely we will not have flying again."

    Also HOWWWW, dear god HOW do people not get, Blizzard controls node spawns, you know this right? So if you have to fly over a mountain and land 10 secs away this x pack for a node, maybe they could just retune, LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN SAYING, so you walk under a bridge and up a hill, and mine a node that was 10 secs away.

    If you don't like it that's fine, but they have to support millions of viewpoints, while you yourself will never ever know even 1000 unique viewpoints. Stop being so damn selfish and learn to change a little, just a little. Don't take that as me meaning never complain (as is so often the next move for you well-adjusted forum goers.) please, voice your displeasure, but don't be a hyperbolic screaming doomsayer, it doesn't strengthen whatever argument you were trying to get across.

    I just wish so many of these post weren't almost vomit inducing.
  1. grexly75's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by themightysven View Post
    I'll be interested to see how that works for Abyssal Seahorse
    The seahorse is not a ground mount it is a water only mount, but only in certain bodies of water I think..

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Murg View Post
    I like how over the last few days, an off-handly said "I think we could make a world where people love it without flying" to mean "Almost surely we will not have flying again."

    Also HOWWWW, dear god HOW do people not get, Blizzard controls node spawns, you know this right? So if you have to fly over a mountain and land 10 secs away this x pack for a node, maybe they could just retune, LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN SAYING, so you walk under a bridge and up a hill, and mine a node that was 10 secs away.

    If you don't like it that's fine, but they have to support millions of viewpoints, while you yourself will never ever know even 1000 unique viewpoints. Stop being so damn selfish and learn to change a little, just a little. Don't take that as me meaning never complain (as is so often the next move for you well-adjusted forum goers.) please, voice your displeasure, but don't be a hyperbolic screaming doomsayer, it doesn't strengthen whatever argument you were trying to get across.

    I just wish so many of these post weren't almost vomit inducing.
    As I said in my earlier post what there is of the community has gone to hell in a hand basket..
  1. mmocf06effc4be's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Sinister Knight View Post
    Because in a world with MAGIC, you need legs to move along the ground? Ever had Levitate cast on you? You can't fly can you, but you can still hover along the ground. So many people can't think laterally in this thread, it's rather depressing.
    Whats stopping my phoenix then from taking off and simply FLY?
    Hurr durr no magixz sais no flyin allowed, but you can still hover on yer phoenix off the ground npz

    Makes just as much sense as the whole direction of the story of WoD.
  1. Aelric70's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Binki View Post
    Mounts decision is a bad one. As if we don't have enough huge mounts. Now with flying mounts working as ground mounts it will be harder than ever to interact with NPCs.
    It will be as easy as always. Turn on nameplates, tab through friendly targets, or /tar NPC's name.
  1. grexly75's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocheku View Post
    Whats stopping my phoenix then from taking off and simply FLY?
    Hurr durr no magixz sais no flyin allowed, but you can still hover on yer phoenix off the ground npz

    Makes just as much sense as the whole direction of the story of WoD.
    I am still waiting to see the proverbial hitting the fan that Wrathion was going on about during the legendary QL..
  1. Aelric70's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by redbeard View Post
    Wonder whats going to happen to flight form
    Probably in the form, but hover near ground.
  1. Keile's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainArlong View Post
    No, the difference is in MoP and other expansions, when you hit max level, you're allowed to fly. This time, it's no flying until they decide to put it in. They're trying to force everyone to play a certain way. I don't care about scenery, or "adventure", it's a video game, and I want to get from point A to point B as quickly as possible. My opinion is a fact, as World of Warcraft is first and foremost, a video game. Anyone else's opinion that differs is just that, an opinion. You can get your jollies from looking at a digital forest, that doesn't change the fact that WoW is a video game. Flying does not change your gameplay, you just want to take your time, so do so. I don't see why that view has to be shoved down the throats of people who just want to play a video game.

    But what do I care, I won't be paying $50 for an expansion to such an old game.
    Actually your opinion is not a fact, it is an opinion. Here is the actual fact: the game is whatever Blizzard want's it to be. They develop it, not you. And your mentality is what is leading to the downfall of gaming in general: "All I want is to get from A to B as quickly as possible" is hilarious.

    You want the real fact? Ok, here is a real fact:

    Video GAMES by definition are supposed to be entertaining. My definition of entertaining may not be the same as yours. Doesn't make me wrong. I find it actually fun to explore. That's why in games like, say Skyrim, I actually WALK to my destination rather than using fast travel. You find so many places to explore and get lost in. And believe it or not even WoW does stuff like that. Little details you wouldn't have noticed otherwise...getting lost in the zone and just...ENJOYING the atmosphere of it.

    So please, do us all a favor and keep your promise not to buy this expansion, we need less single-minded, self-centered, short-sighted people like you playing. Go back to playing games like Call of Duty where they basically require you to press forward to win with their half-assed on-rails single player modes and their done over and over and over and over again multiplayer modes.
  1. link_991's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocheku View Post
    Whats stopping my phoenix then from taking off and simply FLY?
    Hurr durr no magixz sais no flyin allowed, but you can still hover on yer phoenix off the ground npz

    Makes just as much sense as the whole direction of the story of WoD.
    You can already use things like the rockets, flying carpets, flying machines, and red flying cloud in no-fly zones.
    And the No-fly zones have never made any sense if you start thinking about them as story, except Isle of Thunder.
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