Rob Pardo Leaving Blizzard Entertainment

Originally Posted by Protar

Why would including LGBT characters be ruining something?

Because its just adding something to please a group of people?
It would literally add nothing to the game, just as having the lore characters being hetero adds nothing.
Its a video game. We don't need to try to be exploring the demands of society on people with a non traditional sexuality, we all deal with that enough in the real world.
We're playing WoW to kill internet dargons and take their stuff, not to worry about whether the horde is ready for its first openly transsexual warchief.

Originally Posted by Rorcanna

And I'm my own person, if 5 million people loved beating dogs, I wouldn't start loving it with them. And, OF FUCKING COURSE people that have left have done it for all possible sorts of reasons, not just because they read as much into the decision and the game as you seem to be doing.

You have a distaste for the game? Good for you, I'm sure others do as well and quit for that reason. I know people having quit for MANY other reasons as well which pretty much guarantees that "distaste for the game" ain't the only possible reason for quitting a game. How can this even be remotely difficult to comprehend...?

Calm down, bro. There's no need to get overly excited. I'm just saying that the developers suck ass and can't do their jobs properly. If they did, we wouldn't be looking at such sub losses and stupid drastic changes all over the place. There's no reason for you to take it personally when I say that this game is and has been complete shit for the last few years. It's not your fault that you like it in spite of its shittiness. You can't help yourself, obviously. I don't blame you for having bad taste.

I'm just saying that if they did a better job, we wouldn't have lost those millions of subs.

Originally Posted by Tuok

As a gay man, the problem is not the 'inclusion' of said characters. Its far more than that and I'm pretty sure you know this.

Its about pandering, political correctness, and identity politics. This is not a sexuality-driven game. There are love stories but they're low key. Forcing them to include lgbt characters just for the sake of doing so is pandering. Thinking they're scum if they don't adhere to that silly demand is political correctness. And feeling as if they're dissing/hating on you because they didn't include someone that shares your sexual identity is at the root of identity politics. And its a profoundly stupid way to be.

It doesn't surprise me at all that there is a growing 'sjw' backlash. People like you bring it on themselves.

Perfectly said, thank you for this post.

Originally Posted by Protar

C'mon, the guy literally just said "I don't want any homo stuff in video games." I can understand if somebody doesn't care either way, I don't expect or ask for everyone to be passionate about every cause. But being actively against the inclusion of minorities is rather inexcusable.

He didn't literally say that. He said they don't include controversial "real life" shit in their games. Why is that a problem, they don't have an official stance on it as a company, because their stance on LBGT rights doesn't matter because they are a GAMING company. For GAMES, in their universe where cannibals still exist or some dude loves an ex-human alien parasite, or a transgender demon lord tries to destroy heaven. They just make up cool shit and execute it.

Originally Posted by Tuok

As a gay man, the problem is not the 'inclusion' of said characters. Its far more than that and I'm pretty sure you know this.

Its about pandering, political correctness, and identity politics. This is not a sexuality-driven game. There are love stories but they're low key. Forcing them to include lgbt characters just for the sake of doing so is pandering. Thinking they're scum if they don't adhere to that silly demand is political correctness. And feeling as if they're dissing/hating on you because they didn't include someone that shares your sexual identity is at the root of identity politics. And its a profoundly stupid way to be.

It doesn't surprise me at all that there is a growing 'sjw' backlash. People like you bring it on themselves.

So much all of this. I'm glad other people can put eloquently put words to the thoughts I'm trying to get across.

Originally Posted by Tuok

As a gay man, the problem is not the 'inclusion' of said characters. Its far more than that and I'm pretty sure you know this.

Its about pandering, political correctness, and identity politics. This is not a sexuality-driven game. There are love stories but they're low key. Forcing them to include lgbt characters just for the sake of doing so is pandering. Thinking they're scum if they don't adhere to that silly demand is political correctness. And feeling as if they're dissing/hating on you because they didn't include someone that shares your sexual identity is at the root of identity politics. And its a profoundly stupid way to be.

It doesn't surprise me at all that there is a growing 'sjw' backlash. People like you bring it on themselves.

Got to agree with thabris. Terrific post.

Originally Posted by Protar

It sounds pretty bigoted to me. "We don't want strong gay or female characters in our games, we just want to have fun! We're not sending a message with our scantily clad female characters which means the implications are okay!"

Sarah Kerrigan isn't a strong female character?

Originally Posted by Tuok

As a gay man, the problem is not the 'inclusion' of said characters. Its far more than that and I'm pretty sure you know this.

Its about pandering, political correctness, and identity politics. This is not a sexuality-driven game. There are love stories but they're low key. Forcing them to include lgbt characters just for the sake of doing so is pandering. Thinking they're scum if they don't adhere to that silly demand is political correctness. And feeling as if they're dissing/hating on you because they didn't include someone that shares your sexual identity is at the root of identity politics. And its a profoundly stupid way to be.

It doesn't surprise me at all that there is a growing 'sjw' backlash. People like you bring it on themselves.

That's largely what I've been trying to say, admittedly badly.

Well put, sir.

Good riddance, the quality of Blizzard's games, Battle.net, and their responsiveness and honesty with their customers has nose dived the last 5-6 years.

I know they're as profitable as ever, but they've declined majorly.

Originally Posted by sith

Sarah Kerrigan isn't a strong female character?

these tumblr kids just make flimsy arguments with no basis constantly. Blizzard has plenty of strong females. Jaina, Draka, Tyrande, Aegwynn(spelling?). The whole first act of diablo 2 is full of demon fighting warrior priestesses. Diablo 3's female playable characters are strong and charismatic and you can choose your clothing or lack thereof in that game. People just want something to offend them, even if they have to grasp straws for reasons why it would.

Originally Posted by Zaqwert

Good riddance, the quality of Blizzard's games, Battle.net, and their responsiveness and honesty with their customers has nose dived the last 5-6 years.

I know they're as profitable as ever, but they've declined majorly.

You're so ignorant. Rob Pardo has not had any interaction with the current Blizzard games in the last 5 years. None at all. He just recently started working on Warlords of Draenor.

Show some god damn respect to the man who helped make legendary games.

On the upside for him he'll no longer deal with insane loons like Protar and their ridiculous rants about make believe social problems in f'ing video games.

Originally Posted by Infernix

Calm down, bro. There's no need to get overly excited. I'm just saying that the developers suck ass and can't do their jobs properly. If they did, we wouldn't be looking at such sub losses and stupid drastic changes all over the place. There's no reason for you to take it personally when I say that this game is and has been complete shit for the last few years. It's not your fault that you like it in spite of its shittiness. You can't help yourself, obviously. I don't blame you for having bad taste.

I'm just saying that if they did a better job, we wouldn't have lost those millions of subs.

You still haven't answered the question of why would they fire Rob because of the lost subs when he hasn't even worked on WoW since the TBC? He is in no way responsible for how wotlk, cata and mop played out.

Anyone surprised he is leaving in the middle of crunch time for an expansion? I can't imagine his job was done, this close to launch. @_@ Maybe the stress was too much

Originally Posted by WarlordsofDraenor

You're so ignorant. Rob Pardo has not had any interaction with the current Blizzard games in the last 5 years. None at all. He just recently started working on Warlords of Draenor.

Show some god damn respect to the man who helped make legendary games.

This. People on these forums make me want to drown myself in fecal matter lol.

To all noons that dont know him http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Pardo

Originally Posted by Infernix

Translation: Sitting at home playing video games; unemployed.

Sitting at home playing video games; unemployed but still rich. FTFY

even that he is in wikipedia + he was 1/100 most ifluenced ppl in the world according to wiki in some period

Originally Posted by Tuok

As a gay man, the problem is not the 'inclusion' of said characters. Its far more than that and I'm pretty sure you know this.

Its about pandering, political correctness, and identity politics. This is not a sexuality-driven game. There are love stories but they're low key. Forcing them to include lgbt characters just for the sake of doing so is pandering. Thinking they're scum if they don't adhere to that silly demand is political correctness. And feeling as if they're dissing/hating on you because they didn't include someone that shares your sexual identity is at the root of identity politics. And its a profoundly stupid way to be.

It doesn't surprise me at all that there is a growing 'sjw' backlash. People like you bring it on themselves.

Personally I never thought there was a need to define a character's sexuality in game anymore than irl. I'm gay and I adore the lore characters when they are properly written like with Christie Golden. I'd like to see a few stronger female characters or more rational male characters instead of the extremist stereotypes we had up until MoP when Varian Wrynn was the voice of reason to Jaina Proudmoore's homicidal rage. I like the way she has turned now but I also miss her trying to bring peace. Guess being a druid is all I know.

Originally Posted by Protar

Why would including LGBT characters be ruining something?

Because the game is about slaying dragons, not how you rub genitals. Sex is not something the devs should be worrying about. There is no need for them to be going out of their way when there is very little romance in WoW to begin with. Go play Second Life if you want to have your bondage dungeons in game.

And before someone tries to twist my words, I support human rights for everyone. This has nothing to do with human rights.