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Warlords of Draenor - Darker Nights
The darker nights that Mumper mentioned recently appeared in a few locations in Beta. Below we have a few examples of day time from beta, nighttime from live, and night time from beta. The video also shows a complete day/night cycle for each location.

Chris Hardwick Hosting Blizzcon 2014 Contests
Jay Mohr has been hosting the contests at Blizzcon for several years now, but according to him Chris Hardwick will be giving it a shot this year. Hardwick has recently been hosting the Talking Dead and The Nerdist Podcast.

The Gaze of the Black Prince Returns
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Beginning Tuesday, July 15 at 9:00 a.m. PDT, through Tuesday, July 29 at 9:00 a.m. PDT, we’ll be applying the Gaze of the Black Prince buff which will increase the reputation gained with the Black Prince by 100%. It will also increase the chance of obtaining items from his foes needed as a part of the Legendary Cloak quest line including: the Secrets of the Empire, Sigil of Wisdom, Sigil of Power, or Titan Runestone.

Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Warlords of Draenor Theorycraft Discussion
It's me or Crackling Jade Lightning in Stance of the Wise Serpent with Jade Serpent Statue don't proc Eminence (Statue) ? Is it intentional?
Yes, Eminence only works for the Monk in Crane Stance. (Xuen still causes Eminence regardless of the Monk's stance)

1. For stat calculating purposes, how does the Night Elf racial Touch of Elune determine whether its currently night or day?
Server time.

Possible to get current proc rates/data on the various new weapon enchants?
They're extremely untuned still. Once we get them at least ballpark tuned, I'll provide that data. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Any chance Combo Points can update a bit faster than they currently do?
Yes! (Celestalon)

Hunter (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
still looking for Hunter changes. 3 BA's on premade 100 and only 1 single proc of LnL.
Of course, because you're not Multistrike geared yet. (Celestalon)

Monk (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
Have BrM monks received all the ability pruning they are gonna get...they still seem to have a lot of buttons&redundant skills?
No more major changes planned there, no. (Celestalon)

Priest (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
Healing beta. Priest. Should I start treating flash heal as greater heal, not flash heal? In usage amounts, comparing early Cata
Kind of. It's similar in that it's your high-throughput heal. (Celestalon)

Shaman (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
Can multistrike proc Lightning Strike & Eruption too? 1 Lava Beam w/ 2 multistrikes gen 15 charges = 5 eruptions from 1 cast?
Nope. (Celestalon)
Shame, could've looked pretty awesome to see a few go off at the same time
Oh you definitely can see a couple go off at the same time, just on different targets. (Celestalon)
That's great, it looks very aesthetically pleasing. Was secretly hoping to see it rather frequently
Get a bunch of Mastery and spam Chain Lightning; it'll be frequent. (Celestalon)

Now that Elemental has no overload will our spell damage be increased to compensate?
Elemental did not lose Overload; it got merged with Multistrike. (Celestalon)
But everybody has Multistrike will all classes be balanced around the possibility to "overload"?
Elemental's Multistrikes are different; much stronger. (Celestalon)
(But yes, all classes will be balanced around the existence of Multistrike.) (Celestalon)

Earth Shield does not seem to have an internal CD on procs in the WoD beta. Sometimes gone in a couple of GCDs. Intended?
I believe we're trying it out as such. Much more effective as a heal this way. However, may be too strong, or annoying. (Celestalon)

Warlock (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
Average? It's literally within the bottom 4 overall for 25HM SoO and bottom 3 for 10HM. It's underperforming overall
Looking at rankings for Demo is entirely deceptive, because most of the top Warlocks are Aff/Destro. (Celestalon)

Any demo buffs? Literally no demos on ladder. Feels bad, man.
That's a tuning issue. (And to be fair, it's a tuning issue with Aff/Destr, not Demo).We haven't done tuning yet. (Celestalon)
It is a tuning issue with demo, actually. Demo has little ability to kill and little pressure against other players.
Oh, apologies, I was talking PvE. (Celestalon)
So does this mean demo is going to stay same and des/aff is going to be slightly nerfed?
It should come as no shock to hear that Aff/Destro are overpowered on live. (Celestalon)
It's HIGHLY underrepresented in medium to top end guilds, that isn't a coincidence
Demo is underrepresented because the Warlocks up there strongly favor Aff/Destro, not because it's weak (Celestalon)
lolwut. It's underrepresented because it underperforms compared to Destro/Aff.
That's... exactly what I just said? (Celestalon)
You can re-read your last post, if you'd like, to see where you're wrong.
Yeah, I don't get it. Demo is not UP; Aff/Destro are OP (in PvE). Thus, top guilds' Warlocks are mostly Aff/Destro. (Celestalon)
While they are OP, Demo is underpowered compared to almost every other single spec in the game. Again, bottom 4 25HM/bottom 3 10
And again, those rankings are useless. (Celestalon)

Can taurens get around 2 feet back? watching beta streams I noticed they lost a lot of height. They should look taller imo.
That's strange man - we matched skeletons one to one on all new PC's. It might be illusion w/ movement. We'll take a look (artofcgrobinson)

Any chance of the old models of shaman totens being updated to match the new char models? great work on those models btw
I'd love to, it's on my radar. Totems are so cool, we could do a lot with updating them. No ETA, but I agree they need it (artofcgrobinson)

Will we possibly see white skin color for Worgen in WoD? It's becoming a bit depressing being black, grey, grey or grey.
its now on the list. This would be something we might add after PC update. (artofcgrobinson)

Will there be new faces added for each race or even the accessories you were looking into, like panda highlights?
Not at this stage. This is only an update of existing options in game. Would like to do so at some point, no eta (artofcgrobinson)

Please tell me female draenei are getting longer tails that have animation. I'm so tired of of sausage tail!
This would be something we might add in the future after we update existing features. (artofcgrobinson)

loving chars in beta, playing the chars is better then seeing in artcrafts, sad feather option for tauren horns is gone.
We might bring the feather back (artofcgrobinson)

Knowing that nothing is yet final, are there any plans for an brighter orange dwarf hair color like the old one?
Been thinking about that, I agree we missed the value on that color. I'll look into it (artofcgrobinson)

Thank you for taking a second look. We just want some feeling of diversity in the faces.
I hear ya, that's definitely our desire and goal at this stage. (artofcgrobinson)

Is the new human female model definitive or is it subject to change? Can't see my old char reflected
Definitely subject to change, we're now fine tuning each face, altering base pose to more closely match original structure/emotion (artofcgrobinson)
in this case we will be adjusting eyebrows, as well as looking at eye color, lip color, mouth shape, etc. (artofcgrobinson)
This is all part of our plan to address "same face". I had hoped to get out an Artcraft for this but tendon in finger detached - (artofcgrobinson)

What about the undead empty eye socket faces? Any chance we'll get those back?
When we're finished - you should have everything you started with. We don't want to cut/lose any features. (artofcgrobinson)

Male or female trolls next maybe? Pretty please? I think it's high time they've gotten an artcraft or at least*some* reveal
They'll be coming up soon. Had to model mouth in flat line, then use animation posing to form lips around tusks. Showing them (artofcgrobinson)
without that posing would have been disastrous. Hence the wait They look great now - we'll get something out asap (artofcgrobinson)

Chance we could have Beta Shatt Target Dummies on Live servers? Maybe a special room that is phased? Able to learn a lot there
It's something we're considering, but we'd want to kit them up a lot more. (Celestalon)

will lower level skirmishes give XP? Would be a nice change from questing/dungeon leveling. Maybe like as much XP as a quest?
We're planning on granting some XP from skirmishes. (holinka)

Will Ashran have solid trees, for LoS cover?
Trees have never had LoS in WoW for technical reasons. We're avoiding putting them in contested gameplay spaces. (holinka)

Are there any plans to bring back mana burns/drains? From what I see, a lot of healers not getting punished for standing in los.
There are no plans to bring back mana burns/drains. (holinka)

UI / Addons
will the limit of 50 mails be raised with wod?
No plans to change that - you can have far more than 50, but only 50 get displayed at once. (WatcherDev)

How big will our garrisons grow eventually? Won't fit all of the buildings, I fear? Pick & choose the best ones? Can we rebuild?
Pretty large, but not large enough to have everything. You can bulldoze and change buildings as much as you want, though! (Muffinus)

I thought there were 4 small plots has that changed now to 3? Also is the current design of requiring Alch to progress just for beta
On plots, current plan is 3 smalls at Tier 3 now. (mumper)
So the fourth small is scrapped?
No tier 4, the Garrison upgrades from 1 to 3. Lots of iteration still in progress, hence "current plan" (mumper)

how many large plots at the max teir and is that barracks, alchemy lab, town hall teir considered tier 1 for garisons?
Tier 1 currently has a small and a large plot for buildings. (mumper)

No previously made statements imply that having a gathering prof improves the overall yield from your mine/garden/barn.
Both the Mine and Herb Garden will let folks without the matching gathering skill create work orders for mats. (mumper)
Having the matching gathering skill will let you harvest the local garrison nodes in the mine/garden. (mumper)
so will we get enough mats out of our garrison & should drop gathering or it will must supplement miserable ground based gathering
Will still be valuable to have gathering skills, don't want to lose that. (mumper)

Is the return of darker night going into places like Elwynn Forest etc as well?
The plan is to get it in as many places as possible. (mumper)

Warlords of Draenor - Like Father, Like Son
Garrosh and Grommash meet up in Draenor and have some fun in this video.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Warlords of Draenor - Darker Nights, Gaze of the Black Prince Returns, Blue Tweets started by chaud View original post
Comments 95 Comments
  1. Alayea's Avatar
    I'm sorry, but watching that "Like Father, Like Son" video made me lose a couple brain cells.
  1. KrS14's Avatar
    OMG!! Nights like they used to be!!!, I'll buy the expansion JUST for this!!

    Nice relaxing roaming, in the dark, after a hard day at work!! Can't wait!

    Happy Happy Happy!!!
  1. Awbee's Avatar
    LOVING the darker nights! So much more athmospheric, and in the right places, creepy
  1. Hugh Wattmate's Avatar
    Still no Dance Studio
  1. Bahamutx's Avatar
    Got a Beta invite today! I wonder if there is a new beta invite wave going on.

    Yup, some others confirmed it. There was a beta invite wave that went out.
  1. Rorcanna's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by noblez17 View Post
    Then play on an opposite coast server.....

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    I wish - the day/time timeframe was every 2 hours or something....instead of based off a 24 hour timeframe.
    Oh GOD no...I HATE that system, it's in GW2 (not sure about exact time tho) and it makes me feel like I'm playing a single-player RPG. If they could make it optional it'd be fine by me, but if not I prefer the world to actually feel like a world with proper time cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuse View Post
    I can't imagine anyone was clamoring for darker nights. I'd rather the game have permanent daytime if anything. I work during the day; being forced to play in the dark is terrible.'s been a recurring and very popular request for AGES, so you being unable to imagine it doesn't change a thing.

    Even if I couldn't play during daytime, I prefer nighttime to not just be daytime with a different skybox. Makes it feel more real, and so does having a proper day and night cycle. ^^
  1. CrusaderNerò87's Avatar

    Next step should be having the dark nights on seasonal like it is in certain places on earth. In northern norway its dark for months :P
  1. Minerv's Avatar
    Im loving the darker nights so much, finally that atmosphere is back. Only thing now is house windows and lamps and stuff should emit light in the dark
  1. Doomchicken's Avatar
    I enjoyed the video. Made me cackle.
  1. Hexme's Avatar
    I'm surprised that Blizzard hasn't responded to the number one question, "Where the hell are the Troll redesigns!?"

    Yes let's do BC races before one of the races since vanilla WoW whom desperately needs a redesign
  1. lazzy's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by tankbug View Post
    So only retards plays the same content for 6 months+ aye? I have lots of left to do in MoP because I play casual and have alts, not exactly the same as being a retard. What if I called you a most likely unemployed, uncreative loser for burning out the game by playing 24/7 and instead of doing something else when you're done, you come in here to complain? That would be rather unfair, don't you think?
    Honestly, whether you play casual or not if you've been playing this patch since it was launched and you haven't done all the content I don't even know what to say. You can seriously play 2 hours a week and still be done with all this patch content with how long its been out.

    So, what you said is actually kind of retarded.
  1. Everztar's Avatar
    i would really like to see Stormwind / Orgrimmar go dark, but with candles/lights/lamps making the cities stay bright enough for us to stay there and maybe put up a bonefire or something! we need this we need more reality / RPG back in the game!!
  1. bison91's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Alayea View Post
    I'm sorry, but watching that "Like Father, Like Son" video made me lose a couple brain cells.
    thats the dumpest video i ever seen....really? making grom and garrosh look like fools?!
  1. tankbug's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by lazzy View Post
    Honestly, whether you play casual or not if you've been playing this patch since it was launched and you haven't done all the content I don't even know what to say. You can seriously play 2 hours a week and still be done with all this patch content with how long its been out.

    So, what you said is actually kind of retarded.
    So you think anyone can clear SoO on HC by playing 2 hours a week. No guild would even consider putting you in their raid rooster.
    And lets not forget PVP, CMs, achievements, transmog runs, mounts, raiding on multiples roles of your chars, timeless isle, reputation etc.
    times the number of characters you play on.

    So I call bullshit on your whole post, really..

    Even so, there are thousand other games out there for you, so anyone in the western world should be able to entertain themselves for a lifetime without updates. I really can't understand the fuss. I actually hope that 6.0 is still far away, so I can get my CM gear done before it's too late.
  1. Fiannor's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by noblez17 View Post
    Then play on an opposite coast server.....

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    I wish - the day/time timeframe was every 2 hours or something....instead of based off a 24 hour timeframe.
    There is no reason to post such an off-handed dismissive patronizing response. If you gave it even a moment's thought, you would realize that switching servers is a horrible option. In addition to the very considerable expense of moving 10 alts, you can only transfer a set amount of gold, you lose your friends and ignore lists, your quest logs are all reset, you may have to change a char name, you no longer are in your guild, and last but not least you would then likely have to raid and play with new friends at what would turn out to be starting at 10 or 11 PM your time, pushing you into the wee hours of the morning, not good if you have a job where they expect you to show up at 7 or 8 somewhat alert and ready for work.

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