Garrison Monuments, Orc Posture, BMAH Update, Blue Posts, Blue Tweets, DLC #450

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Warlords of Draenor - Garrison Monuments
Along with all of the other features in your garrison, there is a spot for monuments. These statues are currently earned through achievements and only some of the monuments have faction specific art. You can see the existing statues and achievements required to earn them below.




Warlords of Draenor - Orc Posture
Chris Robinson mentioned that the straighter Orc posture would be optional, if and when it is introduced.



Warlords of Draenor - Black Market Auction House Update
Kalidiar has been keeping an eye out for new BMAH items, and spotted the Kor'kron Shaman's Treasure up for sale. This is the Shaman transmog set from Siege of Orgrimmar.




Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Garrison Lumber
We're watching the spawns and experiences people are having. It's an easy enough number to tune. The question is: Are you just hanging around one zone or are you moving around? What tier is your LM? At level 1 it's going to be more difficult to fill your work orders since you can only log small timber. Also, timber spawns are much more plentiful in Spires/Nagrand.

Good feedback. Few notes:

  • Lumber Mill level 2 (and all medium plot blueprints for that matter) unlock at level 98 on the blueprint vendor. You can also get a token for a medium building by completing the Spires of Arak building quest chain.
  • Small timber exists in every zone (except Frostfire). Spires is probably the most densely spawned with small timber, with Talador a close second.
  • You can currently use timber to buy a few more things and we'll try to add more. At the very least if you ever manage to get Phylarch you'll likely want a steady supply on hand for Everbloom Seeds.

That said, we'll take a look at the spawn points. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Next Beta Build
We weren't able to get a new full build deployed this week (aside from the minor fastpatch we did on Wednesday to fix some Garrison issues), but we're hoping to get a beta build out to you all early next week.

Thanks for being patient, and thanks for testing! (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blood Elf Model Delay
yes but it was expected to be more than one race. Not having half done for the release actually feels better to me than leaving out one.
Yeah I understand that, feeling like the odd one out. But just think about that patch when you do get your updated model. Everyone else's models will be common by then, everyone will have been seeing them every day. But when the new Blood Elf model goes in it's going to be a new thing, and everyone will be focused on you and how fancy you look.

Sounds like the kind of 'fashionably late' style a Blood Elf would appreciate. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Warlords of Draenor Theorycraft Discussion
On beta, haste is not affecting Healing Stream Totem nor Healing Tide Totem tics. Is that intended?
Rejoice, for we have rebuilt Healing Stream Totem and Healing Tide Totem. They now will function 100% like any other periodic effect. No more fuzzy haste breakpoints due to server laziness of despawning totems. You even get partial ticks of them due to haste.

Check it out in the next beta build. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

US Connected Realms - Update 8/01
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
As previously announced, we’ve been working toward connecting realms to increase the number of players on low-population realms. Here's a continuously updated list that contains currently planned connections, future plans, and completed realm connections, all in one convenient location.

*Please note this list does not encompass all potential future connections. Please check back for further updates.

Next Connections
We will be connecting the realms listed below on Thursday, August 7 during a scheduled maintenance beginning at 5 a.m. PDT through approximately 1:00 p.m. PDT. Once maintenance is finished, these realm connections will be complete.
  • Shadowmoon and Detheroc

We will be connecting the realms listed below on Thursday, August 14 during a scheduled maintenance beginning at 5 a.m. PDT through approximately 1:00 p.m. PDT. Once maintenance is finished, these realm connections will be complete.>
  • Burning Legion and Agamaggan, Archimonde, Jaedenar, and The Underbog

Future Connections
We do not have a date for the following realm connections, but will update this post when we do.
  • Shattered hand and Dark Iron

*Plans for these connections may change at any time, but we’ll provide additional updates on specific dates for future connections here as we can. Please note that as a part of the connection process realm times may change to match each other.

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Classes
this is the same for most hybrids, 1 gcd vs scores to throw out rejuvs, healing touches
We absolutely do not balance utility by expecting anyone to switch to primarily healing. (Celestalon)
The fact that a Boomkin could stop DPSing and throw Rejuvs on the raid does not factor into it at all. (Celestalon)
The fact that they could keep DPSing and let Ysera's Gift or Nature's Vigil do a ton of healing *does* though. (Celestalon)
Sorry if I ever gave the impression that we are counting "stop DPSing and Flash of Light" as raid utility. (Celestalon)
Dream of Cenarius, Heart of the Wild? If NV healing is = increased healing from amp magic, that's nice.
Heart of the Wild is a separate beast of its own. It's an option to provide *WAY* more utility, at a DPS loss. (Celestalon)
The availability of HotW is not what Druid utility is based around. (Celestalon)

Death Knight (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
In the simplest possible terms, using other abilities other than Frost Strike is punitive and inefficient.
Not if it doesn't cause you to lose Frost Strikes... (Celestalon)
Except it does, runic power becomes runes, runes become RP, it is all connected, inefficient in 1 area affects all
The conversion from RP to Dmg/Runes is better for Frost than the others. But so what? They're balanced around it (Celestalon)
It's a leaky bucket. As long as it never overflows, it doesn't matter whether you pull RP or Runes out first. (Celestalon)

What would your response be to nixing 2H out of Frost entirely? Would save yourself from further headaches.
Response would be "No." (Celestalon)
May I ask why? I am honestly trying to figure out the need for both, no trolling.
Because that's the defined style of the spec. Changing that now would be gigantic. (Celestalon)

Druid (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
This makes 2 niche talents for Feral at level 100. Are you that confident that the majority of Ferals will be happy with LI?
I don't understand. Shirvallah is the opposite of a niche talent. (Celestalon)

Paladin (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
Why not just make the Divine Storm free of cost? That way it's less clunky and people who want DS happy?
That'd make it used for single target. (Celestalon)

I'm curious is there any reason why DS shouldn't be allowed single target? I mean both DK's and Warriors AoE single target.
It's not that it's AoE so much as it's added complication. That talent is intended to be the one with minimal gameplay impact. (Celestalon)
However, I'm not quite sure how the Divine Storm proc from Final Verdict being free would add much more complication.
It adds an additional button to your single target rotation. That's pretty objectively added complication. (Celestalon)
True, but would it not be more confusing to people to see they have a Divine Storm proc that they *Shouldn't* use single target?
A fair question. It's something we're weighing. (Celestalon)

So for AoE you want to weave in Final Verdicts everytime you want to Divine Storm? Or is the proc worth it ST?
Proc will not make it worth it, single target. But it will make it so you want to alternate them for AoE. (Celestalon)
wait...if it's a 100% buff, isn't it a complete wash compared to just using DS exclusively?
Except you can do it ahead of time, and you also got the FV damage too. (Celestalon)

So, Rets had too much raid utility...if that were true they'd be guaranteed spots in raid/wanted a lot more.
No, damage throughput has a lot to do with that too. (Celestalon)

Don't know how I feel about this...I would like to ask you why remove raid utility from a hybrid but give to a pure dps?
Because pure vs hybrid isn't relevant to this. The goal is parity for all. Anyone we removed it from had too much. Some had none. (Celestalon)
Do you value all utility as equal or is there more to it?
The value of utility is very hard to balance; commonly totally subjective. Tough calls to make, but we try. (Celestalon)
You are taking away from a class that sees little play and giving to a class that was already well off.
There are no 'giving from one to the other' things here. And many other changes are involved. (Celestalon)
Remember, the goal is *balance*. Equality. That should be what you want. (Celestalon)
Devo Aura was the only reason Rets were used in MoP. We will be in less raids now.
You lost Devo... Others lost a ton too. Overall raid cooldown utility went way down. Again: *balance*. (Celestalon)

... I understand if offheals are far stronger than live/healers weaker but ret flash of light vs smoke bomb?
Ret utility is easy to overlook because it's not as blatant as Smoke Bomb. (Celestalon)
There is, however, a ton of it. Many are situational, but some subsection is always useful. (Celestalon)
Hand of Sacrifice. Hand of Protection. Hand of Purity. Double all those Hands. Sacred Shield. Lay on Hands. ...(cont) (Celestalon)
Lay on Hands. Level 90 talents' offhealing. Hand of Freedom. Divine Shield. (Celestalon)
So how do you balance this? Do we do more damage than rogues seeing as we trade massive dmg for our utility compared?
What? How do you trade "massive damage" for your utility? (Celestalon)
Considering you count exec sentence as part of our utility, which is a pretty large dmg loss to use that way.
I was mostly referring to Light's Hammer (or Holy Prism, if we tune that better). (Celestalon)
That's still a single target dmg loss to take those...(I assume you wouldn't tune them better single target)
But most fights are not single target. Light's Hammer is the top simcraft DPS talent on many fights, anyway. (Celestalon)

Shaman (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
Tremor is not an immunity, it pulses every second to break fears. You can definetly be feread again during Tremor's duration...
It pulses every second. In one way it's better than immunity as it will put you on DR. (holinka)

Warrior (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
Even Gladiator Warriors dislike Bonus Armor despite being touted as "Best DPS Stat for Gladiator" By Celestalon himself.
Bonus Armor isn't competing with Strength. Strength doesn't give Armor. (Celestalon)
Stat priorities:PrimaryStats > Spirit/BonusArmor > AttunedSecondary > OtherSecondariesSome flexibility to that, but rare. (Celestalon)

Art
Claws of Shirvallah female model?
It's something we're considering for the future, but didn't have a female equivalent ready in the available time. (Celestalon)

I dont get why the Claws of Shirvallah model has to use all fours. Makes more sense to stand upright but love it regardless.
It runs on all fours, fights while standing (hunched forward a bit). (Celestalon)

I've just seen the warrior elite pvp set. who am i buying drinks for to repay them?
We haven't really assigned the art for the PvP gear yet. The Elite set will share a model with Mythic. (holinka)
wasn't it scraped a few days ago? same model mythic = elite pvp? Thought it was canceled^^
I think some models are getting datamined as elite but we really haven't setup all the armor yet (holinka)

Lore
Which gods is the Raven Mother referring to here? Rukhmar and Anzu? http://t.co/w6VLUVxp9Y
She is referring to Rukhmar and Sethe. (_DonAdams)
Are Rukhmar and Anzu children of the Raven Mother?
No, the Raven Mother is Anzu's consort - a demigod he left in charge of the ravens. (_DonAdams)

So Terokk and Anzu were definitely presented as evil in tBC. Now they're painted in a much more positive light. So, what happened? Did they turn evil in those 30 years? Or are we missing something?
Sorry if it's not totally clear! It's a story-heavy zone, and we are missing a few events to help explain things. (_DonAdams)
They are both grappling with the curse and on the downward spiral. In BC Anzu is called back by the Sethekk. (_DonAdams)
Terokk was pretty dark in his final days. Ultimately it's the player who sways the arakkoa away from evil in the WoD timeline. (_DonAdams)
Without you they have no champions. They become increasingly dire and desperate. The Sethekk gain power. It just spirals from there (_DonAdams)

did garrosh want to come to our timeline? Or he wanted to come to 35 years ago azeroth (first war) and kairoz changed it?
Yes, Garrosh wants to come after US, in the present. (DaveKosak)

UI / Addons
I know was investigating combat log working in all phases. Maybe he can comment. I deferred merging because of that.
There are a number of technical issues still to work through; wouldn't count on it for 6.0, alas. (WatcherDev)

World
Why not work on both cities? Maybe patch Bladespire and Karabor later on to fortify our presence on Draenor?
If we had infinite time might be a fun thing to return to in patches for sure. (Muffinus)

I'm also not a fan of how the Ashran hubs use 100% Garrison assets. It doesn't feel unique or fun. It feels forced and stale.
Happy to report that lots of level design work still being done here! (Muffinus)

There is level 100 content in all the Draenor zones. We gotta portal to get back there. Boy, Ashran bases sure are near the fun.
Your garrison is the centerpoint between all of these things, and is really your main "hub," filled with many races/factions. (Muffinus)
I really don't get why "Garrison 2" is better than interaction between the garrison and the important location it is defending.
Totally agree with you, needs to feel important to the world, lots of work still being done on this! (Muffinus)
You CAN'T make it important to the world. It's a second, public garrison. All it does is make YOUR garrison feel LESS important.
Oh, you meant Ashran, I meant Garrisons in general (Muffinus)

Uhh... I've seen Stormshield, and I've seen Karabor... You tell me which is more aesthetically pleasing.
Karabor will have vendors, and you can go there and do w/e you want, it's not going anywhere. Not sure why the anger on this. (Muffinus)
I just think players are tired of the Orcs and Humans thing. It'd be really cool to see Kara/BSF actually being used by players.
TBH If I had infinite time, I'd rather do a shared hub in Auchindoun or somewhere new/cool that has that Shatt/Dal vibe. (Muffinus)

Poll - Orc Posture
Which posture would you use for an Orc?


Dark Legacy Comics #450 - Climb Every Mountain
DLC #450 takes a look at how the clones are keeping busy while waiting for the next expansion.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Garrison Monuments, Orc Posture, BMAH Update, Blue Posts, Blue Tweets, DLC #450 started by chaud View original post
Published on 2014-08-03 08:46 PM
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  1. Gantrithor's Avatar
    Well, there are single player games that let you have vanity stuff. This doesn't seem that odd to me. Though, I wish Blizzard had done real housing (like Rift or Wildstar) instead of just yet another minigame that will last one expansion.
  1. chaud's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkthus View Post
    The monuments are a complete failure IMHO... They make us achieve specific things to get monuments, when we could just show off with waht we already acomplished.

    I mean... I had a hard time doing Herald of the Titans, I could have Algalon as a monument to state that I did this, or why not a statue of Garrosh ? And every final boss of a raid or something ? instead of that we have 5 achievements that have a very huge amount of things to do (25k apexis crystals might be the easiest I think).

    A monument for mythic difficulty, nothing for normal and heroic....

    That bugs me a lot, it is a feature that is very underdeveloped, it could be so much better !
    It is pretty likely that these are just a few test monuments and there are more coming. I don't think the scarecrow is a final monument!

    Quote Originally Posted by bregtann View Post
    What is the point of vanity items, like monuments, in your garrison?
    It is phased, so only yourself will ever see it? I honestly don't see the point of vanity items that no one can see - it kind of forfeits the whole "vanity" of it, no?
    You can invite people to your garrison.
  1. mmoceab75b5bda's Avatar
    No hunch Orcs? I can't believe they're actually listening. Although the announcement sounds like it's not gonna happen in this xpack. I would race change my goblin shaman in a heartbeat! But just like they did take so much time to actually start upgrading the character models, I don't think they will make that happen in this xpack. It's Blizz after all...
  1. Bahska's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by bregtann View Post
    This is an honest question, not a complaint. I am not on beta, so I may have got something wrong here, but...:

    What is the point of vanity items, like monuments, in your garrison?
    It is phased, so only yourself will ever see it? I honestly don't see the point of vanity items that no one can see - it kind of forfeits the whole "vanity" of it, no?
    They are trophy's basically. Your friends will be able to go to your garrison if you want them to.
  1. Toppy's Avatar
    No Pandaren part of the Horde crest. Hard to tell that the bones are troll and the arrow Forsaken.

    What a lazily made thing.
  1. Brewhan's Avatar
    blizzard should be doing garrison invites like wildstar does with housing have a seperate tab next to friends called housing guests and be able to infinite amount of people to that last which can visit your garrison any time not just only in party because some famous streamers are friends list full.
  1. cptaylor38's Avatar
    Oh goody. We can look forward to upright orcs as a selling feature of the next expansion.

    Love the response to the Blood Elf models.

    It seems like they're simultaneously acknowledging that all of their work doing model updates will leave people bored quickly, and advertising that the blood elf update will be another big announcement in a patch. And if you read between the lines it just screams, "It will look so cool in comparison to your now boring models that you will want to pay to change to this one!"

    Also, the statues seem pointless. I'd rather have other things in my garrison to show off than some achievement statue.

    Hell, I'd just love to have something to do with my useless achievement points.
  1. MrExcelion's Avatar
    Not too excited about monuments either, but they all look pretty easy (5000 hks will be fast in Ashran)
  1. Shudder's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Lockula View Post
    Hmm maybe the dps shammie in my group can actually get the transmog set then. For it has only dropped once this entire tier, and it went to the resto shamman.
    That's funny I've gotten it twice and vendored it. 18g per piece is nice.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Rioo View Post
    Don't they pretty much have "infinite time" with WoD, since it's coming out a year and several months after SoO? I don't see their reasoning.
    Kind of makes you wonder what they've been doing for the last year and a half. Any other company would have firing of management.
  1. Shefu's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by SubSeco View Post
    No hunch Orcs? I can't believe they're actually listening. Although the announcement sounds like it's not gonna happen in this xpack. I would race change my goblin shaman in a heartbeat! But just like they did take so much time to actually start upgrading the character models, I don't think they will make that happen in this xpack. It's Blizz after all...
    Oh no the travesty. Just because the rest of us had to put up with hunchback orcs for 10 years doesn't mean there can't be an option finally that will allow upright orcs, just like the ones THEY'RE ADVERTISING ON ALL THE WOD ART.

    what the hell do u care how others would play they're orcs anyway?
  1. Chaosweaver's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shefu View Post
    Oh no the travesty. Just because the rest of us had to put up with hunchback orcs for 10 years doesn't mean there can't be an option finally that will allow upright orcs, just like the ones THEY'RE ADVERTISING ON ALL THE WOD ART.

    what the hell do u care how others would play they're orcs anyway?
    He was actually happy about no hunch orcs, read his post one more time. His problem was the fact that it would take them ages to do it.
  1. Janysa's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by MrExcelion View Post
    Not too excited about monuments either, but they all look pretty easy (5000 hks will be fast in Ashran)
    Well, depends on how they'll deal with unbalanced servers.
  1. elvor0's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shefu View Post
    Oh no the travesty. Just because the rest of us had to put up with hunchback orcs for 10 years doesn't mean there can't be an option finally that will allow upright orcs, just like the ones THEY'RE ADVERTISING ON ALL THE WOD ART.

    what the hell do u care how others would play they're orcs anyway?
    Dude, he said he'd race change his goblin into an orc if they did, what you getting all antsty about? Jeesh, shine on wow community.
  1. Dantos's Avatar
    I have a question. If the dark portal turns red in wod, how we're supposed to go to current outland?
  1. arcaneshot's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Lee View Post
    I have a question. If the dark portal turns red in wod, how we're supposed to go to current outland?
    Currently the Blasted Lands portal just takes you straight to Outland.
  1. mmocbeba583bd0's Avatar
    Monuments in garrison. Isn't that like the most useless thing ever?

    It doesn't do anything, its in single player instance that nobody else will ever see. What's the point of it?
  1. Arkthus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Lee View Post
    I have a question. If the dark portal turns red in wod, how we're supposed to go to current outland?
    In the beta, the portal goes to Outland, when it goes live, It will get us to Tanaan starting quests, in the first few quests we close the portal on Draenor's end, so I guess it'll be inactive until Tanaan is available in 6.x or just lead to Outland.

    Still, the portals in capitals that used to transport you in front of the Dark Portal in the Blasted Lands, now gets you directly to Hellfire Peninsula, so I guess that if the Dark Portal doesn't lead to Outland, you'll still be able to go there with these portals.
  1. Graeham's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Binki View Post
    Monuments in garrison. Isn't that like the most useless thing ever?

    It doesn't do anything, its in single player instance that nobody else will ever see. What's the point of it?
    The point is that a lot of players - myself included - enjoy customising their own little piece of WoW. Ideally such options would go beyond a statue but I suppose this is a start.
  1. Arvandor's Avatar
    I just think players are tired of the Orcs and Humans thing. It'd be really cool to see Kara/BSF actually being used by players.
    TBH If I had infinite time, I'd rather do a shared hub in Auchindoun or somewhere new/cool that has that Shatt/Dal vibe. (Muffinus)

    is this a excuse for the first great design fail of wod?
  1. Venziir's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Huoyue View Post
    No Pandaren part of the Horde crest. Hard to tell that the bones are troll and the arrow Forsaken.

    What a lazily made thing.
    Compared to the Alliance one, yes I agree.
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