Lords of War: Part Two - Grommash

Man these are huge differences from Rise of the Horde novel, but are pretty cool

Not sure I agree with them changing the stories of the Warlords so much but these are awesome so far

These stories are pre-Rise of the Horde, stop bitching already jeez.

more orcs... so boring

Okay so hold on, if Grommash's 'Mate' was killed by Ogres and their village razed then how the hell does Garrosh exist? Especially when this exact story in the LoW video was said to only be in the Alternate Draenor's history but Maraad is saying that is how he remembers it. Also I wonder how on Earth did Maraad learn all these private details about Grommash's life? -_-?

pretty boring episode. way worse then the first one and the voice acting was pretty crap compared to first episode. hope it improves.

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Originally Posted by Darknessvamp

Okay so hold on, if Grommash's 'Mate' was killed by Ogres and their village razed then how the hell does Garrosh exist? Especially when this exact story in the LoW video was said to only be in the Alternate Draenor's history but Maraad is saying that is how he remembers it. Also I wonder how on Earth did Maraad learn all these private details about Grommash's life? -_-?

garrosh wasnt exactly a baby when the orcs drank the demon blood, he was just sick.

The responses in this thread are why we can't have nice things. Sure it wasn't "amazing" but it's still more cool story to hold us over until Warlords drops.

Originally Posted by Darknessvamp

Okay so hold on, if Grommash's 'Mate' was killed by Ogres and their village razed then how the hell does Garrosh exist? Especially when this exact story in the LoW video was said to only be in the Alternate Draenor's history but Maraad is saying that is how he remembers it. Also I wonder how on Earth did Maraad learn all these private details about Grommash's life? -_-?

Different universe.. Not hard to get.. That is why Kairoz said this universe is perfect..

Originally Posted by Darknessvamp

Okay so hold on, if Grommash's 'Mate' was killed by Ogres and their village razed then how the hell does Garrosh exist? Especially when this exact story in the LoW video was said to only be in the Alternate Draenor's history but Maraad is saying that is how he remembers it. Also I wonder how on Earth did Maraad learn all these private details about Grommash's life? -_-?

In the original timeline, Garrosh was likely in his teens when his mother was killed.

But in the WoD timeline, Kairoz and Wrathion specifically went out of his way to ensure that he chose a timeline in which Garrosh was never born.

Originally Posted by Solidgear

more orcs... so boring

Right? Who knew "Lords of War" in an expansion called "Warlords of Draenor" would be about the actual warchiefs

Originally Posted by Darknessvamp

Okay so hold on, if Grommash's 'Mate' was killed by Ogres and their village razed then how the hell does Garrosh exist? Especially when this exact story in the LoW video was said to only be in the Alternate Draenor's history but Maraad is saying that is how he remembers it. Also I wonder how on Earth did Maraad learn all these private details about Grommash's life? -_-?

Garrosh was born before she died, obviously, but not on the alternative timeline. There's no Garrosh there.
I'm quite sure that such details became a legend that spread far and wide amongst the orcs, talking about how awesome grommash was and all that, I don't think it'd be hard for Maraad to know them. Pride is a strong thing you know, I can totally see Grom telling the story over and over, even to his enemies.

Love it, even a little more than Kargath's. (Found it way too similar to Spartucus). This one really gets in Grom's head.

Would you be able to recover from that level of starvation and get that bulked again? I dunno - not a nutritionist but that was brutal! Sad that he insulted his mate at the end though. Never had much respect for Grom. Awesome looking but devoid of morals imo.

That was cool I guess, but what happened to Orgrim Doomhammer?

Originally Posted by Trollhammer

Different universe..

no its not. watch the damn show. this is maraad telling varian about his experiences fighting the orcs before draenor blew up and stories of the warlords he personally fought.

if this were alternate universe stuff we would have something involving some random frostwolf shaman talking to thrall or something.

this is from before theyve even attacked the iron horde.

Originally Posted by Adoxe

These stories are pre-Rise of the Horde, stop bitching already jeez.

bitching about people who aren't bitching, grats.

Also this isn't pre rise of the Horde, read the book, like we have.

So two episodes where the Ogres are pegged as some form of evil overlords who have brutalised the orcs. I thought lore was that ogres where slaves to the gronn and where aided by the orcs in opposing them, so retcon or did I miss something?

What do you guys suppose he slammed his fist down on at 4:25 when he said "Your body is *thud* broken!" Ain't no table in front of that ogre.

THis is 'alternate version' Draenor --> "Don't count all the blades of grass lest you go mad" It's just a copy of Draenor which isn't the same as in our timeline Flies away.

Originally Posted by shoc

In the original timeline, Garrosh was likely in his teens when his mother was killed.

But in the WoD timeline, Kairoz and Wrathion specifically went out of his way to ensure that he chose a timeline in which Garrosh was never born.

Garrosh was a babe when his mother died, this is original timeline, unless this Maraad is from AU... which he's not.

If you need help figuring out Garrosh's age at the time, there's threads of it and you can check out the timeline on Wowpedia.