Patch 6.1 on the Background Downloader, Mythic BRF, Apexis Changes, Blue Tweets

Originally Posted by Naturalna

"Druid
Could you buff 4t17 for rdruids? 25% Mana of a WG is less than a (the subsequent) HT costs (and 2pc is better used on RG)
This is an interesting case where different healers favor different healing styles, & some fit the set bonus, while some don’t. (WarcraftDevs)

It's a case of a set bonus being simply bad. 25% of a WG doesn't cover even a single HT, let alone two of them.
Why are you making that comparison? You're not losing the Healing Touches' healing. (Celestalon)

Because you do not have GCD's for chaincasting HT's during high raiddamage, and during low raiddamage (1/2)
You're saying that it's not worth using on it's own. But that's not the point. It doesn't need to be. It can still be... (Celestalon)
...valuable for the free mana savings when you do 2x HT anyway, which some healing styles do use. (Celestalon)

Isn't the whole problem "2x HT anyway". When would you ever do that? 2pc also allows for NS on 2 additional Regrowth
That seems like the crux of your complaint. You don't use 2x HT. Others do. That's OK. (Celestalon)"



i remember this "discussion", Celestalon ignored all the math behind this tier bonus being total crap (posted somewhere on druid forums here), 0 clue about resto druids, so sad

They forgot that we have ONLY 10sec to use Wild Growth (we can also refresh 4th bonus doing another healing touch) or we will lost our 25% mana cost reduction on that spell...

I do rather have to laugh at people claiming removing the ability to raid those daily sites is somehow removing the MMO part of WoW. Nothing about that zerg is true MMO. Nobody is interacting with each other. It is just a means to go quickly and not die. As pointed out in other threads about this, the Pit for example can be soloed, but also is completely doable in a 5 man group.

All the whining about lack of 5 man dungeons on here, you'd think people would be glad of something to run with their small teams, and not in huge raid groups.

To the person suggesting they just "up the difficulty" to account for raid groups, what then for the people that are soloing/duoing/5manning it? Are they screwed just because some people want to zerg around in a fashion that is clearly against how Blizzard designed it? Bleh

Originally Posted by Effbee

I do rather have to laugh at people claiming removing the ability to raid those daily sites is somehow removing the MMO part of WoW. Nothing about that zerg is true MMO. Nobody is interacting with each other. It is just a means to go quickly and not die. As pointed out in other threads about this, the Pit for example can be soloed, but also is completely doable in a 5 man group.

All the whining about lack of 5 man dungeons on here, you'd think people would be glad of something to run with their small teams, and not in huge raid groups.

To the person suggesting they just "up the difficulty" to account for raid groups, what then for the people that are soloing/duoing/5manning it? Are they screwed just because some people want to zerg around in a fashion that is clearly against how Blizzard designed it? Bleh

The mobs in shattrath could be soloed before you even hit 100, increasing their difficulty would make them fine for 5man. Making them harder would not make it harder for people that do them in a group, since they are so easy now.

It is after all, group quest and is stated as such but in now way does the mobs reflect that

Originally Posted by Quilzar

In your opinion.
In my opinion anything that takes development time and art team time is content.
Again is it the content I want, 100% it is not.
But it is content.

It isn't content, it isn't something you can do that will take up time. There is no gameplay to any of those things.

On top of that, they should have been in 6.0 so they definitely don't count.

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So is there an actual answer about the heirloom question?

How will the Heirloom tab work with the Garrosh BoAs? I have e.g. the 2h axe on normal, heroic and mythic.
Only the most prestigious version of each Garrosh heirloom that you own will show up in your Heirlooms collection. (WarcraftDevs)

Apexis raids were great. They allowed you to get that stupid daily done fast so you could move on to things that were actually fun(such a thing doesn't really exist.) No one cares if it was a Zerg not even Blizzard. They just want to eat more of your time doing the dailies so that you have less free time to realize most of the expansion is very boring. Dailies are busy work so if players find away to do them faster it is fixed.

Lol at "nobody is interacting with each other." Dude they are dailies. You git her done and move on, 5 man groups will not change this, it will only make it even more nauseating.

Originally Posted by Bareno

Can't seem to get 6.1 to appear on the b.net client? No background downloading going on looks like... qq

^^ Same here...

Moar QQ!

Pew pew pew mage :d

Good god why is there always so much whining!? You guys are really pathetic.

A change to questing is also coming with the patch that makes it so players will no longer be able to work on quests and complete them while in a Raid group (though Apexis Crystals will still drop from enemies). You’ll still be able to use the Group Finder tool to locate five-player groups you can join to complete your Apexis dailies.

MMORPG MY ASS!!!!!!!! Morons....

Also consider looking into making AT grant an ember or soulshard (or part of one) and demonic fury. This would make AT much more attractive as a lock player, since locks aren't very mana driven

Apexis crystal change is daft, but then I don't bother with them anyway as it is.

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Originally Posted by Quilzar

Maybe it is because there is not "0 content"?

Don't get me wrong.

I don't want Blood Elf Models.

I don't want Heirloom Tab.

I defiantly don't want Twitter Integration.

I do want Quests and Story Line Progression (and we are not getting much of that).

I am getting really tired of the "0 content" thing though

A large portion of the playerbase does want BE models, and it would be ridiculous not to introduce them after having done so for all other races pre-Cata. My issue with it is that it should've been completed earlier and is not a major patch item. Plus, they seem to have rushed the male faces due to all the obsessive focus on the females, because apparently a bit of an ass and a longer face is the end of the world.

Originally Posted by Mush

It isn't content, it isn't something you can do that will take up time. There is no gameplay to any of those things.

There's nothing to do in the game that's going to take up time in 6.1? Or you're just refusing to do things that are being implemented?

wod is dead for me.. only my main and my leveling alt use garrision..
all other alts have complete cut any wod content, only for raids and illusion enchants..

is background downloader up for eu?

Background downloader is not downloading anything here....

Originally Posted by Zathrendar

Also consider looking into making AT grant an ember or soulshard (or part of one) and demonic fury. This would make AT much more attractive as a lock player, since locks aren't very mana driven

Apexis crystal change is daft, but then I don't bother with them anyway as it is.

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A large portion of the playerbase does want BE models, and it would be ridiculous not to introduce them after having done so for all other races pre-Cata. My issue with it is that it should've been completed earlier and is not a major patch item. Plus, they seem to have rushed the male faces due to all the obsessive focus on the females, because apparently a bit of an ass and a longer face is the end of the world.

If you are too daft to see the horseface while the majority does then YOU are the daft one. That would have been a deal breaker for MANY paying customers. But yet again they fail to take the constructive feedback into account and just go off the deep end with adjustments. There is no pleasing everyone but you should, at the very least, try to please a majority. Happy people keep paying. They still haven't adjusted the eyes on the faces. Same eye syndrome INCOMING!!!!! its humane female eyes and eyebrows all over again. Blizzard, the dumb!@#$s that they are, dont seem to understand basic bone structure. NO face is the same as another. No two faces have he same eyes or eyebrows. That is a HUGE part of the face. Eyebrows are not that high on a face. Cartoony? Yes, we all see the incredibles influences these days don't we, new IP trash.


Overall the models are a superb improvement and were in need of it. But they seem to drop the ball with FEMALE faces most of the time. Sorry male BE. You guys get permaduck face as well. And the Ginormous hand syndrome. I feel for you guys. : (

There comes a point when you go over the cartoony fence and drop straight into Loony tunes territory

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/16411131023#14

they discovered an issue with the Background Downloader and suspended it temporarily

Professions
will the 125 stat food recipes make more than 1 per craft? Seems very expensive if not.
The 125 stat cooking recipes will have a chance to create 1 additional food based on your skill. (WarcraftDevs)

LMAO.. gotta add RNG to every little fucking thing don't they.

Originally Posted by thetraveler12

Professions
will the 125 stat food recipes make more than 1 per craft? Seems very expensive if not.
The 125 stat cooking recipes will have a chance to create 1 additional food based on your skill. (WarcraftDevs)

LMAO.. gotta add RNG to every little fucking thing don't they.

Looking at how the profession work in WOD, I`m pretty sure the chance is at 100% at 700. More like add something when you cap your Tradeskill.

Originally Posted by Zequill

Looking at how the profession work in WOD, I`m pretty sure the chance is at 100% at 700. More like add something when you cap your Tradeskill.

Less about the profession angle and more about them adding RNG to things that didn't need it. Like making sockets and warforged random to get people to keep running dungeons. This whole expac has been a big joke overall.

Originally Posted by Quilzar

While I don't agree with this, I 100% prefer to do in a 5 man group, I really strongly dislike the raid group zerg mentality, and being on the same server as a raid group means you can't do it in a 5 man group as the raid is zerging the entire zone.

I do think that Apexis gear is the biggest fail in WoW history.

I would love to know how many toons actually have any 655 gear, and how many will be going for 670 gear.

I was doing some math, if I dinged an Alt tomorrow and wanted to get ONE bit of 670 apexis gear it would take approx 70 800 apexis missions, this would cost 14,000 Garrison Resource to get the tokens or if you did say 1 bonus a day it would take 35 days to get ONE big of gear, its insane, just don't get it at all, I don't get who this gear is aimed at.

I remember when we were told that they were taking away justice/valor point gear, because reasons. Now we have Apexis crystals, which are totally nothing like justice and valor points. They have a whole other icon and everything, and you need more of them.