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Incoming Heirloom Item Level Change
The heirloom item level hotfix is now live.

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Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
We've received feedback from some of you regarding Heirloom item scaling from levels 91 to 100, particularly in comparison to items available from dungeons. After some discussion, we agree that Heirlooms need to be made more competitive with dungeon items. So, we’ve just applied a hotfix that will increase the item levels of Heirlooms from levels 91 to 100 (live once scheduled maintenance completes). You may still find the occasional item that has slightly higher stats, but the frequency of that happening should be much lower.

Thank you for the feedback!
This article was originally published in forum thread: Incoming Heirloom Item Level Change started by chaud View original post
Comments 48 Comments
  1. Zigrifid's Avatar
    Its still 31 in EU so i wont read it for a few more hours , you know just for the fun.
  1. bejii's Avatar
    Nice. I wonder if this affects both Garrosh heirlooms and normal heirlooms?
  1. Lucetia's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by bejii View Post
    Nice. I wonder if this affects both Garrosh heirlooms and normal heirlooms?
    Nah the Garrosh heirlooms were decently scaled the entire time and weren't at a bad spot.

    The normal BoA's I noticed were sitting at like 525 while my Garrosh weapon was at 575 and at 100 it was 600 and Garrosh at 620. So I'd estimate the gear got a 20 iLvL jump would be my guess.
  1. dyljames94's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by bejii View Post
    Nice. I wonder if this affects both Garrosh heirlooms and normal heirlooms?
    The Garrosh ones were fine. The normal ones were kinda bad.
  1. Awbee's Avatar
    I personally don't quite get the point, since I find it more exciting to get an upgrade via a dungeon than to wear the same heirloom for 100 levels; but hey, I can just take the heirlooms off, so it's alright.
  1. Loreguy126's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Awbee View Post
    I personally don't quite get the point, since I find it more exciting to get an upgrade via a dungeon than to wear the same heirloom for 100 levels; but hey, I can just take the heirlooms off, so it's alright.
    Same. Isn't that the reason for dungeons? LETS JUST ALL WEAR HEIRLOOMS AND TURN INTO THE SAME TOON. ??? -__-
  1. Therec's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Awbee View Post
    I personally don't quite get the point, since I find it more exciting to get an upgrade via a dungeon than to wear the same heirloom for 100 levels; but hey, I can just take the heirlooms off, so it's alright.
    Its hard to get excited for something you'll replace in an hour or two. I prefer the 50% XP boost.
  1. Lucetia's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Awbee View Post
    I personally don't quite get the point, since I find it more exciting to get an upgrade via a dungeon than to wear the same heirloom for 100 levels; but hey, I can just take the heirlooms off, so it's alright.
    Quote Originally Posted by Loreguy126 View Post
    Same. Isn't that the reason for dungeons? LETS JUST ALL WEAR HEIRLOOMS AND TURN INTO THE SAME TOON. ??? -__-
    It's all a matter of opinion. To me, there's really no point since you'll be upgrading that item from a dungeon shortly anyway. Most people tend to stay away from dungeons while leveling as out in the world is faster.

    Myself, and many others, would rather get to 100 fast so we can start the gear upgrades that'll actually matter. The +45% may not seem like much to some, but with that and the +20% pot it was taking me about 30-60 minutes per level depending on what I did and if I didn't afk. Then once I hit max I could go straight into LFR as I did Ashran to get to 615 rather than dungeons. They were boring after the first week when I ran them on my main and haven't touched them since aside from an odd resource daily because I could.
  1. Feindy's Avatar
    you wear heirlooms for bonus exp, not stats. and if you get item with better stats, its kinda frustrating
  1. Nathanyel's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Zigrifid View Post
    Its still 31 in EU so i wont read it for a few more hours , you know just for the fun.
    You know US is behind EU in terms of time zone, right? It's still the 31st in the US, too, this is not an April Fool's.
  1. Schizoide's Avatar
    This is a good change. I'm up to 10 100s now, 6 of them leveled post 6.1 with full heirlooms, and these items were really low itemlvl compared to even quest drops, much less dungeon drops. In fact, they were often low itemlvls compared to MoP gear on those characters. Of course it was still worth using them for the experience multipliers, but my characters were definitely less powerful.

    Garrosh heirlooms were the exception; those were always pretty good. Oldworld heirlooms scaled much worse, and maxed out at 600. Garrosh heirlooms max out at 620.
  1. krisiteenie56's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucetia View Post
    It's all a matter of opinion. To me, there's really no point since you'll be upgrading that item from a dungeon shortly anyway. Most people tend to stay away from dungeons while leveling as out in the world is faster.
    to a point. dungeons are MUCH faster all the way to about 68. After that queues will slow down if you arent tank or heals.
  1. samuke's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Loreguy126 View Post
    Same. Isn't that the reason for dungeons? LETS JUST ALL WEAR HEIRLOOMS AND TURN INTO THE SAME TOON. ??? -__-
    Well, you don't get the xp bonus from non-heirlooms. If you're leveling and in a dungeon and consistently getting drops that are better than the heirlooms you are wearing, you are torn between being behind everyone else stat-wise and keeping them on, or getting rid of them and losing the xp bonus (which defeats the purpose).
  1. idunnowatdo's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Feindy View Post
    you wear heirlooms for bonus exp, not stats. and if you get item with better stats, its kinda frustrating
    well then you need to ask yourself. do you want to level up fast or do you want the dungeon drop? i go with the xp boost every time. leveling is tedious,boring, and I hate doing it even since i started playing in bc to now. the faster its over the faster i get to the meat and potatoes of the game. but thats just me
  1. TheMediator's Avatar
    Makes sense to spend thousands of gold for a weapon that is outclassed by some blue from a faceroll dungeon right?

    Heirlooms should be stronger but only cover specific slots IMO. The issue is heirloom coverage is getting too wide. I think there are less than a handful of slots that are NOT covered by heirlooms now.
  1. samuke's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by idunnowatdo View Post
    well then you need to ask yourself. do you want to level up fast or do you want the dungeon drop? i go with the xp boost every time. leveling is tedious,boring, and I hate doing it even since i started playing in bc to now. the faster its over the faster i get to the meat and potatoes of the game. but thats just me
    Plus even with the better ilvl, the dungeon gear is lower than rare drops or heroic drops, anyway, so it's not like it's a more permanent replacement.
  1. Alayea's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by idunnowatdo View Post
    well then you need to ask yourself. do you want to level up fast or do you want the dungeon drop? i go with the xp boost every time. leveling is tedious,boring, and I hate doing it even since i started playing in bc to now. the faster its over the faster i get to the meat and potatoes of the game. but thats just me
    Effectively sums it all up right here. Leveling hasn't been end-game since classic WoW; it simply serves as a gate to the actual end-game content now. That being said...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMediator View Post
    Heirlooms should be stronger but only cover specific slots IMO. The issue is heirloom coverage is getting too wide. I think there are less than a handful of slots that are NOT covered by heirlooms now.
    I don't think every slot should have an heirloom, either. Having an heirloom for every slot would make all the non-heirloom leveling gear fully obsolete, at which point Blizzard would probably not bother with dungeon loot drops at all outside of max level. I know, I know -- you can just elect not to equip any heirlooms, but I personally like having a mix of heirloom with non-heirloom gear.
  1. Classtoise's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMediator View Post
    Makes sense to spend thousands of gold for a weapon that is outclassed by some blue from a faceroll dungeon right?

    Heirlooms should be stronger but only cover specific slots IMO. The issue is heirloom coverage is getting too wide. I think there are less than a handful of slots that are NOT covered by heirlooms now.
    Well, keep in mind that "thousands of gold" doesn't go away. It works across every toon that can use it.

    So if you picked up the Headmaster's Charge and it's no longer the best item at level 94, that doesn't mean you wasted all that gold. Your next caster/healer might not get so lucky.
  1. Fritters154's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by krisiteenie56 View Post
    to a point. dungeons are MUCH faster all the way to about 68. After that queues will slow down if you arent tank or heals.
    I've been leveling my toons that I left in the 70's lately and all the queues there are 3-5 minutes. Not necessarily fast but with the speed that the dungeons gets cleared vs the time spent moving between zones when you level rapidly still makes dungeons faster until at least 80. Cata and MoP are short enough level wise (only 5 levels) that moving between zones to not get green or grey quests isn't a problem. From 15-80 though there is little reason to complete quests outside of dungeons if you are going for speed.

    On classes that can heal or tank just do that 15-90 and you can get to WoD content in about 12-15 hours played depending on group quality.
  1. Apexis's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Awbee View Post
    I personally don't quite get the point, since I find it more exciting to get an upgrade via a dungeon than to wear the same heirloom for 100 levels; but hey, I can just take the heirlooms off, so it's alright.

    I think, if they are bothering to go to this point. They might as well make a piece of loom for every slot. They have stated prior that they don't want to do this because they believe at least a few upgrades should still feel worth going after. Most people that are going to use looms in the first place are doing so just to get to the end as fast as possible. They could careless about getting upgrades along the way to cap. This is the reason I won't bother to put all my looms above the 90 cap. Its not like it really takes that much of an effort to get to 100 once you been through the content once or twice and learned the fastest path through to the end. The only reason all my looms are 90, is because they were grandfathered in, otherwise they would never saw 90 either.

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