Update (Wednesday 12:15 PM EDT): The Token price is going back up.
Update (Wednesday 11:15 PM EDT): The Token price has started to go back up for the first time since the decline started.

Patch 2.2 Key Features and Item Changes Guide

Deck Spotlight: Midrange Hunter, Card Design Competition #11, Sylvanas Lore Spotlight

Heroes of the Storm PTR, Shop Sales - Insectoid Zagara & Lumberjack Uther

Noblegarden 2015
Noblegarden is back once again and this year brings a few updates to the event. Check the guide on Icy Veins for the full details!

  • The Mystical Spring Bouquet is a new non-combat pet that will follow you around. You can purchase it for 100 x Noblegarden Chocolate.
  • New eggs such as Magnificently-Painted Egg have been added. These allow anyone who can see them to loot an item that sells for 90% of the gold of the original, making them another way to transfer gold between realms.



WoW Token Prices - Day 1
WoW Tokens came out today and had a slight spike in prices in the afternoon before the price started going down. Prices were initially adjusted hourly and now appear to be adjusted every 15 minutes. For the most part, prices are changing by 1% in either direction when they do change.

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Changes to Conquest Catch-Up Cap
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
As of this week’s reset, we’ve made a change to how the Conquest catch-up cap is calculated that should result in a 50% increase to the catch-up portion of the cap. We’re making this change because, while we still want there to be an incentive to play early and often, the amount of Conquest that a player could earn via that catch-up cap didn’t feel like enough once the PvP season had been active for a while.

To elaborate, the formula used to calculate a player’s catch-up cap is now:
Number of weeks passed in the season × 1500 - Total amount of Conquest earned this season

That number is then added to the weekly total cap of 1700. Note that, as of this post, Warlords Season 1 has been active for 18 weeks, which means the maximum possible catch-up cap for a player that has not earned any Conquest points this season is 28,700 Conquest.

We're looking into the reports that some players haven't had their catch-up cap increased. I'll update when I can.

Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Game Mechanics Arguments
Why is that? What makes mechanics in the game create feelings of injustice rather than just distaste?
I think it's mostly to do with ownership. You see the same thing with some movies, especially with popular movie franchises, that the dynamic of product creator and product consumer changes--and this is compounded when you factor in age and nostalgic factors. It's not just about making something to entertain for a couple hours anymore and a 'We hope you had fun!' and everyone moves on, it's had an impact on who they are, and it's something they've invested some portion of their life toward. In most cases you'll also find these things have a human element, where relationships are formed, experiences with friends are had, and memories made. When you're involved in creating the entertainment that defines a part of who someone is, and this is especially true of games and gamers, you're not just making something they can choose to buy or not, you're continually trying to deliver on a promise. It's usually not a promise anyone wrote down, or put on a website, but it's an expectation that this piece of their life won't betray them by becoming something else. All of this is sometimes explained or downplayed as entitlement, and I think that word is often used as a way to belittle people who rightfully have expectations--who have a deep and emotional connection to a life experience that just happens to be based around a piece of entertainment.

It's no small part of our job to ensure that when you see one of our game logos, or just the Blizzard logo, you know that when you pick up that box, or click on a link, it's going to be something that delivers on all those promises, and that those expectations are not only met but exceeded. It's a really difficult, and scary, and exciting, and wondrous obligation we have. And one that we really enjoy challenging ourselves with. Every day. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Art
I have to ask: Will vanilla armor/weapons have HD model? It's a lot of art work but we can use them fot the next 5-10 years.
Re-vamping the human/orc armor in WoD made sense for garrisons, but yeah, it's expensive, art-wise. Often rather make new stuff. (Muffinus)

Misc
Do you think ability and skill trumps the need for a college degree as a game designer, assuming you can produce very impressive
My *personal* opinion, speaking for myself, not on behalf of Blizzard, is 'generally, yes'. (Celestalon)

Warlords of Draenor Art
Today we have some of the art done for Warlords of Draenor by Vergne Fanny, one of Blizzard's Senior 3D Environment Artist. There are also lots of environment shots from popular places in Draenor that she worked on.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Noblegarden, WoW Token Prices, Conquest Catch-Up Cap, Blue Posts, Environment Art started by chaud View original post
Comments 93 Comments
  1. Vermicious's Avatar
    Yay... glad I waited before buying any (from the AH).
  1. Pacster's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Insofin View Post
    If the token is aimed to a wider audience, the demand should be higher. However, the price is dropping. And a price drop of the token means the offer is higher than the demand. I don't believe people are massively buying wow tokens for selling, not when the prices keep dropping constantly (meaning their tokens are not being bought).
    They do not have to. To have the price dropping it doesn't need people to buy tokens for real money...it's enough if those that want to buy tokens for gold just don't buy. Then the price will keep dropping. Those that want to buy tokens for gold would be stupid to buy now...they wait till they see that the bottom line is reached. So the current situation is likely that hardly anyone buys tokens for gold or real money...but because there are still tokens on the market and nobody buys them, the price keeps dropping.
  1. aeuhe4yxzhds's Avatar
    Wonder if they release the token at 30k in EU as well or just stabilize the price
  1. Apexis's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodom View Post
    Looks like WoW also has a lot of people who do not know the value of having a fulltime job.
    Yea, I might be paying with cash or credit card through Blizzard, but I can buy a 3 month virtual card for $41.97, that $13.99 per month. If these tokens can get down in to where it as cheap as what I pay out with real money, then I might consider dumping a lot of gold on a year's worth or more. Right now they are just a hair above 22k, if they go down to 15k I will probably buy as many as I can at that point. I am sure not going to buy them for anymore than that.
  1. Cien's Avatar
    Most people I have spoken to and seen on the forums seem to value 20-30k as a lot of gold, thats hardly anything for me. I don't really know where I picked up lots of gold, but it must end of MoP with my selling and WoD.

    Hurry up EU I want my free game tiiiiiiime. Gold is so easy to make its pretty much going to be f2p <3
  1. guardian_titan's Avatar
    Guess the server millionaires way overestimated how much gold everyone else had. If people could make money so easily, then there wouldn't be as many poor people either in the game or the real world. Gold may be easy for some to make, but for others, each gold they make immediately goes out of their pocket. Blizzard stated some time ago most players didn't even have 1000g. I saw not long ago a thread asking for the price of epic flying to be reduced from 5000g. So I guess the average hasn't gone up much. Clearly, despite the ability to make gold being easier than ever before, people are still struggling.

    I also find it funny how people state you can work an hour to get $20. I don't know about you, but I was working a barely above minimum wage job at $8.50 an hour. After taxes, I got $6.70 an hour. It'd take me nearly 4 hours to make $20 so about half my work day. You'd have to make well over $20 to make $20 an hour after taxes, and how many people work those kinds of jobs? Most jobs here in the US are service jobs which are lucky to be $16 an hour. Most are below that. People really overestimate things or just don't want to see the truth.

    Kind of wish I bought a token early to sell for 30k since now it's at 22k but oh well. I can wait for 6.2 where I'm sure the demand will jump.
  1. Apexis's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacster View Post
    They do not have to. To have the price dropping it doesn't need people to buy tokens for real money...it's enough if those that want to buy tokens for gold just don't buy. Then the price will keep dropping. Those that want to buy tokens for gold would be stupid to buy now...they wait till they see that the bottom line is reached. So the current situation is likely that hardly anyone buys tokens for gold or real money...but because there are still tokens on the market and nobody buys them, the price keeps dropping.
    I don't think there is enough people that will end up buy these. The people with tons of gold surly are buying by the year or more, but after those waves have passed there is just a bunch of people that just do hardly anything or don't play enough to make enough gold to even support their repair bills. Given about a week of this and the price is going to absolutely tank. I have read in game of people buying 4 or 5 years of tokens. If there are few thousand of these types of people, then once they buy that much there is no reason to ever buy even more.

    Supply will have to drop like a rock for them to go up in price and once that happens there will not be that many people buying them. I think who ever is going to buy than a few months of time will have done so in the next few days. Once the initial wave passes there will be few to buy them on a constant basis.
  1. wimbo125's Avatar
    Next time, could you please put a graph that doesn't give a distorted image like this one. On first sight it looks like it plummeted like hell, it's not that nice.
  1. randa's Avatar
    This was so smart move on Blizzard side. With this system in place, they basically increased monthly subscription to 20 dollars without all the negative publicity.
  1. mmoc3dde1cb131's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Insofin View Post
    What a fail, 20$ for 20k gold...
    Why is it fail?

    What is you definition of it being a success.

    My definition is "if it makes Blizzard more money and gets more people playing the game".
  1. Duster505's Avatar
    It might be safer and legal to buy gold from Blizzard.... but it's also almost twice as expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quilzar View Post
    Why is it fail?

    What is you definition of it being a success.

    My definition is "if it makes Blizzard more money and gets more people playing the game".
    I think the fail part atm is the price. 3rd party web sites are offering better value and IF players are looking to buy gold - they might be tempted to go for the value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by risingforce View Post
    The tokens are aimed at a wider audience than people who buy gold thru third party sites.

    The tokens are a legitimate gold source.

    The 'others' will continue to purchase thru 3rd party websites, yes, meanwhile the Tokens are aimed at a wider audience.

    The wider audience that might never have thought of buying gold before this was implemented are also seeing that the 3rd party sites are offering better deals. So maybe Blizzard is also creating new audience that will in the end go to 3rd party websites. Players that might never have done that before this move.
  1. Vermicious's Avatar
    The price going down so quickly could also be caused by a lot of people buying the $20 token, thinking they would get 30k gold for posting them on the AH, then seeing the prices going down, and posting all the ones they had bought so they can still get a good amount of gold before the price goes down even more.

    I'm sure the next week or so will see prices stabilizing.
  1. Kelathos's Avatar
    Bought my first token for just under 22k gold. Half my entire WoW savings.

    Perhaps with a few Garrisons farming gold missions...
  1. mmoc4ec7d51a68's Avatar
    At the moment it's also still people calculating that prizes go down even more. Many already have their game time and the price continues to drop, so i wouldn't buy it for now too. I believe once the price stabilizes for a period, it will go up and up for some days.
  1. Alfakennyone's Avatar
    Yea, I bought mine when it started going up and up. about 5 of them, and now they're 10k cheaper lol and could've bought two more for that :c
  1. kamuimac's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by guardian_titan View Post

    I also find it funny how people state you can work an hour to get $20. I don't know about you, but I was working a barely above minimum wage job at $8.50 an hour. After taxes, I got $6.70 an hour. It'd take me nearly 4 hours to make $20 so about half my work day. You'd have to make well over $20 to make $20 an hour after taxes, and how many people work those kinds of jobs? Most jobs here in the US are service jobs which are lucky to be $16 an hour. Most are below that. People really overestimate things or just don't want to see the truth.

    Kind of wish I bought a token early to sell for 30k since now it's at 22k but oh well. I can wait for 6.2 where I'm sure the demand will jump.
    seems like somebody should spend less time in virtual world and more on his irl abilities and knowledge to get better job to afford his hobbies without thinking five time before spending every 5 $
  1. Duster505's Avatar
    3rd party websites are probably selling very well right about now. Blizzard has created the norm that you can buy gold with real money.. not actually telling ppl that you don't get the gold unless the token is actually sold. Until then... you just spent 20$ and got absolutely nothing instead.

    When it will sell? Sometime... but looking at the current prices... it could be quite some time. And in the meantime - players expecting to have extra 30K gold... end up with 20$ less with unsold token in AH.

    To actually get gold right away is to go to 3rd party websites.
  1. proteen's Avatar
    I'll buy a 3rd coin (on the AH of course) if they drop to 18k. I can't see it getting below 20k... but, well its still going down quite a bit.
  1. tibblaye's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Duster505 View Post
    3rd party websites are probably selling very well right about now. Blizzard has created the norm that you can buy gold with real money.. not actually telling ppl that you don't get the gold unless the token is actually sold. Until then... you just spent 20$ and got absolutely nothing instead.

    When it will sell? Sometime... but looking at the current prices... it could be quite some time. And in the meantime - players expecting to have extra 30K gold... end up with 20$ less with unsold token in AH.

    To actually get gold right away is to go to 3rd party websites.
    no they said youll get the price you put it in for no matter what the current price is like its dropped heaps after i put mine in for 30,500g but i still got 30,500
  1. Vermicious's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Duster505 View Post
    And in the meantime - players expecting to have extra 30K gold... end up with 20$ less with unsold token in AH.
    When you sell your token on the AH, you get exactly how much it says you'll get when you post it. The price it sells for is irrelevant.

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