WoW Down to 7.1 Million Subscribers

Originally Posted by MaraStarfury

The sub fee at the start of WoD shows that people REALLY want to play WoW, just not in the shape it is now. Those 3 million subcribers could of easily been sustained if they just put the effort in they did years ago.

Or they came back for the new and shiny stuff and the hit of nostalgia... and then went back to doing other things once the 'newness' wore off.

Blizzard could have released Wrath of the Lich King and you'd still see a massive drop in subscriptions.

Originally Posted by Iflash

OMG, preaching to the choir here. I tried archeology in Draenor, hateeed it, and I like archeology. I did all the MoP achievements, all the 20 project ones. But Draenor? Takes forever. Not to mention all the digsites with uneven ground. Like the one outside Khadgar's place. That one took forever to complete. Horrible, horrible experience.

I really love archaeology, it's relaxing to dig and see what you can find but I don't think there's anything relaxing when the areas are too tricky with too much mobs on you. I also think it's a bit silly with the rare finds when you can't really pick up the fragments for arakkoa because it goes over the maximum amount you can carry <_< so you just..leave it there and weep and hope you find some key fragments.

Originally Posted by DarkBlade6

Even if it drops to 5m sub, all the veteran players will still buy the next xpac, couple month after the release they will come to MMO and complain about ..... everything.

if wow drops down to 2-3 mio, that would be the best what ever could happen. bye bye casual mainstream idiots that play 1 hour per week for their 660 gear, they dont need for their pet battles. no, serious: blizz can begin to develop a mmo to a mmorpg crowd instead some facebook 3rd person action game, and focus to 1 direction only, instead trying to make everybody happy with useless shit.

Originally Posted by Wildtree

I am pretty sure that the garrisons keep millions playing.
If nothing else, they give an excellent revenue source for the player to make gold, and it gears alts up passively.

But that's exactly the problem. Garrisons are PASSIVE. My followers DO THINGS, while I wait.

I want to play the game, not have some NPCs play it FOR me.

Warlords of Draenor nowadays!

The fact is this, the wod expansion content was just kind of designed as fun for a 1-time run through. Many/most people did that in the first week if not the first 3 days. After that, the stuff to do at 100 was very mediocre this time around and people left in droves. That's a fact. Many more people haven't logged in for months and just haven't bothered to cancel yet in hopes that it gets better. Wow isn't dying, but anyone who says a 2.9M sub drop in a quarter isn't a reflection on the low replayability/staying power/max level content quality (whatever way you want to word it) in wod are fooling themselves.

Originally Posted by Kanariya

A well deserved loss. The game may have more end game content than ever, but it isn't quality content and most of it isn't even worth bothering with as it's cosmetic. Gear takes seconds to get, progression is quick to finish. Really not sure if there's anything Blizzard can do at this point to revive the game.

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Originally Posted by bardgal

But that's exactly the problem. Garrisons are PASSIVE. My followers DO THINGS, while I wait.

I want to play the game, not have some NPCs play it FOR me.

Good thing you don't have to wait huh? You can take 15 minutes, do everything you need to do in a garrison, and go play the rest of the game. Garrisons are NOT the problem. The lack of things beyond the Garrison is a legit issue.

Originally Posted by Kioshi

Does this mean panda land was a better expansion? Wod has drop more than panda land in the same amount of time.

Yep, pretty much.

Problem is that there is not realy much to do at endgame if you are casual. Sure you can level up garrisons and do LFR and even some PVP, but the storyline dies very fast and then it's just repeat content.

Blizzard has been milking content for a longgggg time now. Releasing new bosses in a new raid every 6 months is not particularly strong anymore.
When they finaly realize they have to make wow a story-driven MMO (because warcraft story franchise is a goldmine), the game will probably pick up again.


Warcraft Lore is a GOLDMINE. Blizzard should work on more story driven content for fans to play the game. Solo epic chalanges, solo dungeons even solo raids with NPCs. Yes i know this is an MMO, but quite frankly wow as a standalone MMO is a failure for a long time now. Only thing that keeps it alive is the warcraft universe fans wishing the game would progress into other ways.


I stoped playing wow for a long time now but i still keep coming back to forums just for that, to keep track if wow is changing or not.

Originally Posted by Avenette

Well, I'm still subbed and play casually. I think this expansion has been the second worst as far as content and the worst as far as my enjoyment. I do not like the theme, the story (except for the Arrakoa), garrisons, the capital cities, the pvp, or much of the pve.

I was really excited for this expansion and I think that the leveling was absolutely amazing.
I wish Highmaul had been more epic. It didn't feel like a city to me, it was too small and uninhabited.
BRF was okay, but I'm still just bored with the entire orcs of draenor story.
I severely miss dailies. I was one of those people who loved the start of MoP with dailies and rep grinding everywhere.
I miss having a timeless isle equivalent.
I think garrisons are trash. I want them gone forever.
I do like no-flying, but that isn't content.
I hate Ashran. It actually wasn't that bad pre-server merging. It was usually 125 Alliance vs 75-100 horde constantly, but now it's 5-10 alliance and 40-60 horde. I can't accomplish anything.
The capital cities are completely uninspired. They are not significant locations or well built at all.
Professions have been marginalized. There's barely a reason to have them.
Gold inflation is out of control.
PvP is plagued by bots and certain OP abilities, more so than any past expansion.
5 mans are once again pointless and will continue to be pointless with Mythic.
I'm really tired of these larger than life/ try hard tier sets. I would much rather them be more reasonable and stylish in their simplicity, but still do enough for it to look class specific.

Just some of my current thoughts. Still hoping for the next expansion. I think something like South Seas would breathe a lot of life into the game.

You must play on a server linked with Sargeras for Ashran. And I agree with most of your content except I actually like garrisons but I wish they were more customizable so it felt like my garrison and not just the same generic buildings. However, please do not put future development energy into garrisons since it has been said that they will not continue into the next expansion. Just plan ahead if there are any new similar features.

Originally Posted by Cougar

Or they came back for the new and shiny stuff and the hit of nostalgia... and then went back to doing other things once the 'newness' wore off.

Blizzard could have released Wrath of the Lich King and you'd still see a massive drop in subscriptions.

Wrath had actual open world content at launch.

WoD shoehorns people into logging in for 5-10min unless they need to do their raids and then log off.

And people can't understand why people quit? They're paying to play for 3-5 hours a week.

The lack of flying really is starting to hit home with a lot of people. really no other way to explain it

Draenor itself is great and the levelling up story was amazing, but the End Game fell flat. The game needs other PvE content than just raiding :/

Originally Posted by araine

The lack of flying really is starting to hit home with a lot of people. really no other way to explain it

Or you could use logic and reason.

Originally Posted by Draculla

Warlords of Draenor nowadays!

OMG LOL! That is so funny! XD

After more then 5 years I quitted end of march.

They disabled flying because the world was so empty. With the Garrison its even more empty.
20 Mythic destroyed so many guilds even my guildlead had no other choice then quantity > quality (too many good player quitted)
and the story? just boring shit.
Highmaul was a boring designed raid and BrF feels like a new wing of the boring SoO.
And now they will bring mythic dungeons... they have no new ideas for content in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Bluegirl91

You have defined yourself als fanboy, I am sorry to confess to you.

By your definition, which is meaningless to me.

LOL! No surprise there. Also, LOL @ "the largest team we've ever had working on World of Warcraft". It certainly shows...

For all the hype it had going into launch, WoD has been the single, most boring, piece of shit expansion to date. It baffles me that a company this large and successful could be so out of touch with their golden child game, repeating the same mistakes year after year. And not only repeating them, but getting worse it fixing them.

You'd think this would be incentive for them to make the necessary changes for future content and expansions, but nah... they'd rather milk the cow for everything it's worth while devoting their time elsewhere. It's been pretty obvious for some years now that WoW is not a priority anymore, and that it has taken a backseat to other "projects" over at Blizzard Entertainment.

I just hope the game goes free-to-play next expansion to put the final nail in the coffin.

20 man Mythic are working, not