WoW Down to 7.1 Million Subscribers

i highly doubt that numbers will climb up to release states with content patches this expansion... LOTS of people are very dissapointed with wod in general and more content wont fix things, cause there is more wrong with this expansion than "just" some content (or lack of such)

for me personally the class-design this expansion is worse than any lack of content.

this should be a wakeupcall, but they probably just wait for the tokens to "fix" it and we continue to see shit design all over the place

No wonder, this expansion is pure trash. I expect a steady drop despite the token.

100k mount? bitch please... that's 3 months of wow.

Originally Posted by Dhru

here is my expectation:

If you really and truly believe that, i want to live in your fantasy world. THIS loss in subscriptions isn't anything normal or expected at all. THIS is a true and unexpected disaster.

But i would like to ask Tom Chilton one question: These 7.1 Mio are the sub-numbers of the end of march, right? that was before you released the patchnotes for 6.2, right? Call me curious, but have those number beeb increasing since back then, or are they even more leaning towards "below 7 mio"?

There have been many many many small concepts gone wrong in WOD. Maybe starting to work on a new expac when realizing at the end of previous one that you don't have any more content isn't the best idea. And nobody can tell me that this "less content 10 bucks more" expac has been in development more than a year before it started.

I hope they have learned about how important customer satisfaction is. And for this, in the future there is ONE sentence that i don't want to read from Blizzard EVER again: "we want the players to..."
i DON'T CARE what you want. I AM the customer, and if you don't deliver the product and the content that I WANT to play, i'll go and spend my money elsewhere. Stop trying to tell your customers how they should enjoy the game. All these restrictions on everything doesn't make a game appealing, People generally like to have OPTIONS, and more than just "eat or die".

This is what happens when you don't allow flying.

Well, every expansion it's the same ... you hope for a better experience, you get disappointed. And since it happened so many times already, ppl notice it faster, unsub faster. Personally I hated the 20 man fixed raid size for mythic and the raid encounters overall. I think Blizzard focuses too much on the technical aspect of executing the fights and neglects the fun aspect.

Originally Posted by Darkvoltinx

Wod is not casual. Its raid or die

If you think this Game is not made for Casualscrubs, you haven't played Vanilla/TBC!

Haha it took 4 months of this garbage expansion to lose as many subscribers as MoP lost over the course of 2 years.

lol...weird i am one of those 3 mil...for the first time in 10 years. personaly its because of content and raids.
the content is nice. but they still havent learend 1 bit. other mmo's that i play all have fun things to do that add to your house, ship or charchters stuff without being for raiding or pvp, and without being a toy. WoW everything is for that. And everyone plays like that.
and raiding its fun. the raids where hard ( wich is good) but again no inovation. all tough BrF had a couple of new intresting bosses. WoWs biggest problem is the fact that 90% of the game's rewards/quests and stuff to do are for raiding or pvp. they should make stuff to do that builds to your charchter ( or its house). its become to static in its content

Well deserved. I'm one of those 3m.

Originally Posted by Dhru

here is my expectation:

People don't give a shit about content patches, they aren't going to come back just for one raid. The game is just bad.

Originally Posted by nvn

People don't give a shit about content patches, they aren't going to come back just for one raid. The game is just bad.

Well, I did. I came back for the next raid which is on PTR atm. So are some of my former guildmates. Guess you're wrong here.

I doubt it will be that much, though.

Garrisson is the main reason IMO. No reason to leave the Garrisson. No reason to meet other people outside. Hell no more reason to even trade goods with others since you get all you need in the Garrisson and the few things you don't get there you buy in the auction house with alle the money you also get from the garrisson:

You also get your alts up to itemlevel 655 without ever leaving the garrisson, if you have patience.



The result are bored, overfed players that feel lonely in their garrisson. If you don't have a nice raid group, there is not much reason to play the game. And the Garrisson is just a Facebook/HTML game where you click requesters and then just wait. The only "action" is to see how your followers leave to have some adventure.

The whole Garrisson is also done the wrong way. You followers go out and fight cool monsters. You stay at home and pick flowers and mine ore or open chests? Shouldn't it be the other way round? You go out and kill monsters and your peons do the boring work at home?

I'm not really surprised about the drop. While I've enjoyed WoD a lot, the content just doesn't last for a very long period of time without some content patches backing it up. I've done most of what I wanted to do and the first major content patch of the expansion has yet to drop. It also doesn't help that Garrisons became the center of attention of the expansion, since the outdoor content is very small compared to how other expansions handled it with dailies.

Still, I don't really blame the quality/quantity of the expansion. Subscription numbers are much more unstable than they ever were back in the early days of WoW and subcription MMOs have been on a decline for a long time. Hopefully WoW Tokens will help making the numbers more stable.

Only guessing, but it seems the devolpement team on WoW is getting smaller and smaller. Had high hopes for WoD but its just worse than almost any Xpack before. Not only the garrisons getting to just a chore, i think 4 Raid difficulties are making raiding a chore to. I have been raiding HM and BRF with my guild and im just not pumped about mythic after doing all the normal and heroic stuff. None of the stuff i used to do is around anymore. Doing Dungeons with friends for valor on mains and alts and farming are just gone to be honest. Maybe doing some dailies like ogrilaa in TBC or som eof the faction dailies in Wotlk even on an alt, not there any more.

Dont get me wrong there is stuff to do, challenge modes, apexis grind, achievments and so on. But nothing of that appeals to me.

And the most important thing my "friends list" is not existant anymore. Doing stuff together outside of raiding is long gone by.

Originally Posted by Enkyulol

Only guessing, but it seems the devolpement team on WoW is getting smaller and smaller.

No, it hasn't. It in fact got even bigger before WoD after Blizzard cancelled project Titan and moved the people developing the game to their other teams. They however seemed to have had a lot of issues with putting all of these new people into the regular workflow, which delayed the expansion, from what I've heard.

Originally Posted by Chameleon

Well, I did. I came back for the next raid which is on PTR atm. So are some of my former guildmates. Guess you're wrong here.

I doubt it will be that much, though.

Most of the people don't even raid. You are the minority.

Originally Posted by McNeil

Good, this game deserved that loss.

Yes, it does!

Originally Posted by Frozen Death Knight

No, it hasn't. It in fact got even bigger before WoD after Blizzard cancelled project Titan and moved the people developing the game to their other teams. They however seemed to have had a lot of issues with putting all of these new people into the regular workflow, which delayed the expansion, from what I've heard.

What's worse is, the expansion feels rushed despite how long it took them to get it out. I am one of those 3M people that quit...I got one of those Blizz HQ mini statues too...I think that says enough about the state of the game currently.

I have had an account with wow for nearly all of the 10 years its been out and I have finally quit about 2 months ago. I quit for a lot of reasons.

1. FLYING!! I mean WTF, at feature added to the game in BC is suddenly taken from the game after 4 expansions, I don't get it.
2. Professions might as well be removed it's totally crap now.
3. Garrisons worst idea EVER!! Destroyed any sense of community in the game.
4. Reforging another great feature suddenly removed. I get that they got rid of useless stats like hit and exp. Reforging still has a purpose for less desirable stats.
5. Raiding, I preferred 10 and 25man and flex was a great feature also. The new looking for raid tool also sucks the big one. I preferred the Mist looking for raid tool.
6. LFR, another great feature for those of us who have had all or most of our friends quit the game. However no tier gear, and even the weapons are no longer recolored versions of the regular items they look cheezy and just plain.
7. Classes, have been so blended together they no longer feel unique.
8. I have a lot more reasons to list but I do not feel like typing all day.

Number 1 and LFR was the final nail in the coffin for me. With no friend left, and LFR being stripped of any motivation at all to que up and deal with some of the retards who run LFR, I felt it was time to move on.

My hope is WOW is finally scrapped and they start over with WOW2. I know that is wishful thinking but one can dream.