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I tell you, whenever I'm feeling down...I can always count on the Blizzhaters at mmo-champ to cheer me up. You people are too much...lol.

If anyone needs me, I'll be on the kargath server flying around in my new runesaber mount.

Originally Posted by familiar

I wonder, does he believe half the nonsense he said in this interview?

As someone who has had that PR job, I can tell you that it's possible but not likely. Companies tend to hype themselves up even to their employees, so some of it depends on which end of that conversation the interviewee was on. There are also some who really and truly believe that they're always right and everyone else is wrong.

The most likely scenario, however, is that it's a spin. While the person doing the spinning might not buy it, they're pretty darn confident that they can state it in a fashion so that the customer base will buy it. Keep up customer confidence that there's nothing wrong with the game, and they'll keep spending money. If your customer believes something is wrong with the game, they'll stop playing.

In short: The chances that a Blizzard employee will ever come out and publicly say, "Yeah, you guys are right. This game sucks as is," are slim to none. Yeah, it could happen, but it's highly unlikely.

That interview made the game lose more subs next quarter!!! I´m one of them since I didn´t count last quarter.

I am honestly shocked at that interview.... they are completely oblivious to the state of the game.. its going down the shitter... "Garrisons give players reason to log in for a short time when they wouldn't have had any reason to log beofre. It doesn't really take away from raiding, PvP, or other longer playtime activities" - wow really??? REALLY??? im just so done. unsubbing and so shud everyone else, follow the 3 mill and punish blizz for just not even facing the problems......

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Originally Posted by LordKain

I tell you, whenever I'm feeling down...I can always count on the Blizzhaters at mmo-champ to cheer me up. You people are too much...lol.

If anyone needs me, I'll be on the kargath server flying around in my new runesaber mount.

are you trolling or do you actually believe that blizz is in the right here? that the state of WoW is good ? im really curious....

I keep coming back to mmo-champion hopeful for wow's future and seeing plans for the game making it worth subbing again, but if they're very proud of WOD, then I guess I should move on...

The loss in subscribers is partially due to the cyclical nature of the game.

I know a dozen people at least who have quit wow in the short term, 1 has said because of the above reason. All my other mates, including me left because the highlight of 6.1 was a glorified way to take a screen shot.

At first, I was fine with no new content as the BRF was still reltively new, but you know what, it got two weeks into 6.1 and I clicked, Im literally doing the same couple of jobs a day, hoping for a epic, to make gold, to buy challenge mode boosts on all my alts (No I don't have a guild because Warcraft is the fucking worst game I've seen for people having drama in guild / clans / fleets), as well as running BRF. Then literally logging off.

I might come back for 6.2 every few days when I check mmo I see a few things Id like, the time walker sounds amazing, then it said on holiday or bonus weekends, I could of swung for someone

Originally Posted by Toclafane

As someone who has had that PR job, I can tell you that it's possible but not likely. Companies tend to hype themselves up even to their employees, so some of it depends on which end of that conversation the interviewee was on. There are also some who really and truly believe that they're always right and everyone else is wrong.

The most likely scenario, however, is that it's a spin. While the person doing the spinning might not buy it, they're pretty darn confident that they can state it in a fashion so that the customer base will buy it. Keep up customer confidence that there's nothing wrong with the game, and they'll keep spending money. If your customer believes something is wrong with the game, they'll stop playing.

In short: The chances that a Blizzard employee will ever come out and publicly say, "Yeah, you guys are right. This game sucks as is," are slim to none. Yeah, it could happen, but it's highly unlikely.

Subs of Wow down to 4M by the end of 6.2, so much for this happy ending. Yeah, sure they have earned their money, that's definitely not a crime to be an asshole and screwing its own product. Now I see why a money-hungry company can never create a good game, because it just not on it.

This interview left me feeling they are totally clueless and it was just PR bullshit. I don't normally feel that way about one of their interviews so I am a little surprised at myself. I can usually see where they are coming from on most things when they do an interview, but this time.......wow. To me it was mostly horseshit.

I can see how they expected sub loss. Hell, I did too. But sub loss of this magnitude so soon after an xpac release? I've never seen such a thing in my 10.5 years of playing WoW. And his response to it was just........clueless.

6.2? Largest content patch? ROFLMAO!!! Garrisons keep people logging in once a day? Sure, but as someone who got very burnt out on raiding in Vanilla and TBC and no longer raids I want more to do than Garrisonville when I log in.

Meh, maybe the game is changing in a direction that's just not for me anymore. /sadface

I like dungeons, but I dont want to be doing the same one over and over. So why, instead of making the same "old" dungeons relevant again, why not make new ones?

Mythic dungeons is a really cool concept, but I don't think it will be relevant to our main characters for too long. Maybe for gearing up alts. But I would love to experience some new dungeons. Raids are the "end game", but sometimes beeing able to do shorter contents in smaller groups is also interesting.

Timewalking will give us some dungeon variety, will likely add some new challenges and bring some nostalgia to players, but how long will it be interesting?

I know, making some entirely new dungeons must be some work, and eventually, the new dungeons are gonna become obsolete anyway, but I really wished for more dungeon variety in this expansion pack instead of just the initial ones. Pandaria all over again.

Originally Posted by Amla

The convenience features added over the years have made the game slightly less social.

That's like saying "The Chernobyl disaster made the area slightly less habitable".

This one made me laugh. So true.

Originally Posted by Shiski

"Patch 6.2 adds Timewalking and Mythic dungeons, making group dungeon content relevant again." Nope.

This was my thought on this. Two tiers for dungeons was good enough back in TBC, and people didn't get burnt out on them so darn much. We also had incentives for doing them through gaining rep or badges for items. This continued on through WotLK and Cata, and for the most part the community had no beef with it and even enjoyed it, aside from the "welfare epics" complaint from some raiders.

WotLK also added the heroic element to dungeons and gave us two different raid sizes. This was okay, but players got burned out doing the same raids twice in one week, so Blizzard added a lockout for Cata where you could only do one or the other. Of course, when LFR was introduced toward the end of Cata, folks went right back to doing the same raids twice.

We've since added Mythic raiding and Challenge mode dungeons, giving you yet another way to do the same dungeons. Folks are getting fed up doing the same raids and dungeons several times over, even if it's a different difficulty level. Two is fine. Three is pushing it, and four is overkill.

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Originally Posted by Aurora

The fact that they raised the price of the expansion and pushed strongly for a 2 tier yearly expansion probably suggests they expected something like this. They know more of the audience than ever before are only interested in new expansion content and are pushing for a higher price on them and greater frequency of releases to cash in more on those people.
I hope that's not the case where expansions have become cheap and quick cashgrabs that are poorly supported until the next expansion but it does appear to be heading that way. If true it means Blizzard would genuinely not care about the 2.9m loss since they'd be confident about getting them back (briefly) for the next expansion, which isn't long to wait in their new cycle.

This unfortunately sounds plausible, considering Activision.

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Originally Posted by DiNett

Is this damage control? Is this complete denial? WTF IS THIS?!

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Originally Posted by Darkguyver2020

Well STFU and unsubscribe then. It's not like you signed a blood pact to play the game.

I know you're implying that they won't, but a good many people have already done just that with more expected to follow.

The loss in subscribers is partially due to the cyclical nature of the game the amount of orcs and flying not being allowed in new zones

Fixed.

But the message is too short :|

Originally Posted by Darkguyver2020

Person calls someone out for being a whiny entitled little brat, they're dubbed a White knight.

People pay for a product and expect to get some level of quality in said product they pay for, get dubbed "entitled."

I get that the player base can be hard to please, but it's not like WoW is F2P.

Originally Posted by paflodder

To get these stuck up prima donna's back to earth we need to cut them down with another 3 to 4 million subs .
As they would call it another "bit of a dip"

Pretty sure after more people read the patch notes and that interview on the front page, more people will unsub. I unsubbed last week. I will probably resub at some point, but I am done with this xpac.

Haha, they pretend the game is just cyclical, not because that they havent done jack for the game, no no, its because paying subscribers dont appreciate everything blizz does for them

Originally Posted by Toclafane

In short: The chances that a Blizzard employee will ever come out and publicly say, "Yeah, you guys are right. This game sucks as is," are slim to none. Yeah, it could happen, but it's highly unlikely.

If I may add for clarity, history has shown us that Blizzard tends to only confess to the shortcomings of expansions postmortem.

Originally Posted by Yarathir

In your opinion. So far, what I've seen are a lot of people rightfully laughing at the "this is our biggest patch so far!" claim, and see the interview for the fluff talk it is. To you, that might be whining, but to me, the people who can't handle daddy Blizzard being criticized are the ones who are whining.

First off, actually read the interview before failing to quote it. It said and I quote: "I think 6.2 is one of the largest content patches we’ve ever released, between the dungeon features I talked about, our Adventure Guide, a raid zone, the Tanaan [Jungle] exterior zone, and the shipyard."

There's a difference between saying "this our biggest patch so far" and "one of the largest content patches we've ever released". The distinction between these two sentences are in fact important, since one is factually incorrect while the other really isn't. 6.2 is a pretty large patch, but it is not the largest. That's a failure on your part to not understand what was said, not Blizzard's.

The team is fully responsible for the extension's success - they had selected the right idea and setting for the expansion. it was the right timing.
The team is fully non responsible for the dwindling subscribers' count, it's all external: cyclical nature of the game, change of habbits of players, and so forth.

Also warlock and shadow bolt (wasn't it in vanilla btw?) to refute the dumbing down of the game. Because the class didn't evolve between then and MoP?

Plus ça change...

Who is this stupid whore on that openraid thing?

Such shit reasoning for 20man mythic. None of the reasoning explains why they didn't pick 15 which most guilds would have had a much easier time adapting too. If they really cared about all the struggling guilds they would have opened it up to flex or made mythic xrealm from the start.