Garrison Campaign Rewards and Gladiator Mounts, Blue Tweets, SWTOR, Wildstar, DLC

Originally Posted by Uncle

Nobody have noticed the MOST important information here: Patch 6.2 adds the Warlords Season 1 (Primal Gladiator's Felblood Gronnling), Season 2 (Wild Gladiator's Felblood Gronnling), and Season 3 (Warmongering Gladiator's Felblood Gronnling) Gladiator mounts.

So: three seasons, that mean THREE raid tiers, that mean THREE patches, that mean Archimonde IS NOT the final boss; 6.2 IS NOT the final patch. Thanks, you're welcome.

Wasn't there 2 pvp seasons during SoO? I mean I don't think this is the last patch either, but I don't think this is necessarilly the smoking gun for 6.3, they /could/ just be forward planning. I can't really see them doing another SoO though, I think that would kill the game at this point.

Originally Posted by Arvandor

nice star wars trailer!

hmm.. i must look in this game..

You're right, that truely was an impressive trailer, with no gameplay whatsoever. Pre-rendered trailer hype, yay! SWOTR has been f2p for ages.

You can have an extra season without having an extra raid tier, it actually happened in mop so you're theory ain't exactly 100% correct although it might be possible.

Can anyone confirm what the prerequisites are for getting into tanaan? Is it still lvl 3 garrison and like 5k resources? Whats with the garrison campaign questline being worked in? Do you need all those quests done as well to start it?

Originally Posted by Uncle

Nobody have noticed the MOST important information here: Patch 6.2 adds the Warlords Season 1 (Primal Gladiator's Felblood Gronnling), Season 2 (Wild Gladiator's Felblood Gronnling), and Season 3 (Warmongering Gladiator's Felblood Gronnling) Gladiator mounts.

So: three seasons, that mean THREE raid tiers, that mean THREE patches, that mean Archimonde IS NOT the final boss; 6.2 IS NOT the final patch. Thanks, you're welcome.

When you will kill Archimonde, there is endgame cinematic. The same like with Arthas, Deathwing, Garrosh.
When Blizzard in a history of the game did cinematic in a middle of the expansion? Never.

But yes, there could be "Ruby Sanctum" mini raid in 6.3, but I dont think so. 6.3 will be just small zone (maybe Farahlon) as a Lore Gate Patch to the next expansion.

Or 6.3 is another 5.5 patch. (https://twitter.com/DaveKosak/status/357545921338281985)

Not a SWTOR fan but starting at 60 is a good idea, hope wow follows and allows a free max level (of prior expan) each time a new expan comes out. The level gate for new or returning players on different accounts is a pain. So many friends have just quit after level 30-50 because by that time they want to be playing with there friends/me at max level.

E3 is pretty off the chart this year. The Bethseda one was pretty amazing - Doom isn't a game I'm into, but it looks awesome - and Fallout 4, if it works as advertised, is a game I'm going to spend a LOT of time in.

In fact, if they added multiplayer, dungeons, and raids? They'd be exactly what I want from WoW. There's a TON of replay factor in what they're doing - crafting, custom gear and housing, circuitry! And throwing the PipBoy onto a mobile phone or tablet? That's frigging spectacular. Imagine putting your raid bars on your tablet, on your desk, and freeing up the UI. And it's interactive and linked to the game? If it works as intended, that's a homerun.

Bethesda is doing everything Blizzard should be. They even threw in a crack about Blizzard's booth being closer to the porn back in the day. Looking at the games that are coming out, and the ones out recently, Blizzard's stuff is starting too look really dated, lacking creativity, and stale. Bethseda set the bar higher by bringing the game out into the tablet/phone space, and all the possibilities there - and what do we get from Blizzard? Twitter. And selfies.

They even threw a free game at everyone, which I downloaded and started playing with, and it's really, really cool. Here we have Bethseda giving away stuff, and getting everything right, and what do we get from Blizzard? 7 months of nothing, store mounts, bullshit Q&As, and garrisons.

I guess we just can't look to Blizzard for cool stuff anymore.

Why is there a question as to wether or not this is the final tier, of course it isn't, right? We still have to kill Grommash?

Originally Posted by Gadzooks

E3 is pretty off the chart this year. The Bethseda one was pretty amazing - Doom isn't a game I'm into, but it looks awesome - and Fallout 4, if it works as advertised, is a game I'm going to spend a LOT of time in.

In fact, if they added multiplayer, dungeons, and raids? They'd be exactly what I want from WoW. There's a TON of replay factor in what they're doing - crafting, custom gear and housing, circuitry! And throwing the PipBoy onto a mobile phone or tablet? That's frigging spectacular. Imagine putting your raid bars on your tablet, on your desk, and freeing up the UI. And it's interactive and linked to the game? If it works as intended, that's a homerun.

Comparing a next gen single player game to a 10 year old MMO is always fair. Also, sticking your raid bars on your tablet would be dumb. How would taking your eyes AWAY from the screen to look at your desk be helpful? Eyes on the game while you're raiding.

Originally Posted by Draculla

When you will kill Archimonde, there is endgame cinematic. The same like with Arthas, Deathwing, Garrosh.
When Blizzard in a history of the game did cinematic in a middle of the expansion? Never.

Wrath Gate. At the end of every quest zone in WoD aside from Spires.

Originally Posted by elvor0

Comparing a next gen single player game to a 10 year old MMO is always fair. Also, sticking your raid bars on your tablet would be dumb. How would taking your eyes AWAY from the screen to look at your desk be helpful? Eyes on the game while you're raiding.



Wrath Gate. At the end of every quest zone in WoD aside from Spires.

Creativity is creativity, regardless if you can see it or not - and Blizzard is sorely lacking in that department these days.

Originally Posted by Draculla

When you will kill Archimonde, there is endgame cinematic. The same like with Arthas, Deathwing, Garrosh.
When Blizzard in a history of the game did cinematic in a middle of the expansion? Never.

if you remember there was a cinematic in this expansion when you finish the quest to kill Garrosh.

I really feel for Sweater. I mean, it get so much hate its not even funny. Makes me want to e/cry. Sure, Bioware/EA has brought it up on themselves but still... Trailer looked bloody awesome!! ;D

Originally Posted by elvor0

You're right, that truely was an impressive trailer, with no gameplay whatsoever. Pre-rendered trailer hype, yay! SWOTR has been f2p for ages.

Extra salt in your corn flakes this morning? The fact its been out a long time probably means that they already know what type of gameplay to expect and are still excited.

Originally Posted by elvor0

Wrath Gate. At the end of every quest zone in WoD aside from Spires.

Yes, but its not raid ingame cinematic.

Originally Posted by liquidlyon

Extra salt in your corn flakes this morning? The fact its been out a long time probably means that they already know what type of gameplay to expect and are still excited.

Pre rendered trailers are a cop out, they don't show you anything, which is a fact. How is that salty? I was more pointing it out, because that particular poster seems to hate the game, yet still sticks around on here to moan about how shit the game is with no constructive critique, just sandwhich board doom.

Originally Posted by Gadzooks

Creativity is creativity, regardless if you can see it or not - and Blizzard is sorely lacking in that department these days.

I didn't say it wasn't creative, I said that comparing a single player sandbox RPG to an MMO running on a 10 year old engine isn't a fair comparison and you know it. Even the whole smartphone extra thing isn't new. I like it, and I totally want the collectors edition to run the app for Fallout 4 on that pipboy, but it's not new.

Originally Posted by Draculla

Yes, but its not raid ingame cinematic.

mm, true, but you said mid expansion, not in raid. It could be just something they're planning on doing from now on at a guess, especially given the large amounts of cinematics in WoD. I mean it could be signalling the last riad but at the same time, I cannot see them being stupid enough to give us another year of one raid, given that season 3 stuff has been added.

Blizzard keeps changing trends this expansion if anyone hasn't noticed. Many of those changes have driven players away while bringing others back. It wouldn't be too surprising if they threw in a cinematic for Archimonde just because they wanted to show something cool but they couldn't do it without resorting to a cinematic.

At any rate, just because Blizzard's done something in the past doesn't mean that will be true this time. Blizzard's trying new territory and mixing things up. It's certainly possible there could be a 6.3 raid. I certainly hope so or else this expansion's an expensive flop for fans. Given the amount of cinematics we see throughout WoD questing, possible Blizzard found an easier way to make them so we'll see them more regularly going forward from questing to dungeons to raids.

Originally Posted by elvor0

Comparing a next gen single player game to a 10 year old MMO is always fair.

And calling WoW a 10 year old game is fair? The latest installment came out November of last year, the game has a massive development team that has been working on it year round for the entire life of the game. Calling it a 10 year old game "and this is why it can't compete or feels stale" is a weak cop out.

Oronok and the whole Cipher questline from TBC was awesome, I hope they do him justice in WoD.

Whatever is that "Submit" form just below the first picture? I don't even

Edit: NM, it's gone

Do you need to have finished the original garrison campaign to start on the new one? Didn't bother on most of my alts so I'll have to catch up if it's required.

Originally Posted by Annarion

Do you need to have finished the original garrison campaign to start on the new one? Didn't bother on most of my alts so I'll have to catch up if it's required.

Nope, just need the Tier 3 garrison.