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Dev Interviews - Legion PvP
Holinka talked about Legion and Warlords PvP on the arena steam this weekend. You can watch the interview here.

Legion PvP
  • There won't be gear with Resilience, PvP Power, dual item levels, or gear specifically made for PvP.
  • The team doesn't want people to feel that they must have PvP gear to participate in PvP.
  • When you enter a battleground or arena, the game will set your stats from your spec, not your gear. This means all of your stats will come from a template specific to your spec. If one spec isn't doing well in PvP, their spec's template can be tuned individually.
  • PvP talents plus the spec stat templates will allow the team to tune balance in arenas and battlegrounds much better than they ever have been able to do before.
  • PvP right now uses gear as a progression system. Once players get their full set of gear, many of them are done.
  • PvP Talents try to take the place of the progression that came from gear.
  • Trinkets, set bonuses, and enchants will not be active in PvP.
  • Right now players stack enchants, set bonuses, and trinkets, lining them all up at once to do a lot of damage. Outside of when all of those are up, players don't feel like they are doing much damage. This should help to make sustained damage a bigger part of PvP.
  • Once players reach the max PvP level, they can reset it to gain a Prestige level. This gives access to different cosmetic rewards.
  • When a player reaches PvP level 10 (roughly 20% of the way there), they will have unlocked an option in every row.
  • The CC break trinket has become very important in PvP, so adding it as a PvP talent will offset the loss of active trinkets. There will be some other options in that row that might be useful, such as reducing CC times by 20%.
  • The team hasn't decided exactly what they are going to do with the Human racial. They could leave it alone and offer a different talent in that row to Humans. The racial plus the new options could be too good.
  • As you get better gear, your stats are increased a smaller amount. For example, every 5 item levels may give you a 1% stat increase. This way gear still will increase your power, but it won't give you a huge advantage.
  • There are plans for players to be able to get great gear from PvP, but it may not be as easy as it is today. It may be easier for high rated players to get better gear than more casual players.
  • You won't have to raid to get the best gear for PvP.

Warlords PvP
  • Spectator mode and the new player run tournaments have been exciting.
  • The team was happy with how skirmishes worked out. It gave players who didn't have their arena partners online the opportunity to play some arenas, as well as other players that wanted a break from leveling or gearing up.
  • Battleground strongboxes worked out well. Players were able to get different gear in a more unpredictable way.
  • The Group Finder was a great addition. It allowed people to find others to play with.
  • Ashran fell short of where the team and players would have liked to see it go. During the ramp up to Warlords, there were a lot of people excited about a new world PvP zone that had a large area and epic battles.
  • The team didn't execute on that idea. They have tried to make changes based on player behavior and feedback, making mistakes along the way. They have done things like putting exclusive rewards in Ashran to make them feel special, which resulted in lots of negative feedback.
  • The current state of Ashran can be fun for people that are interested in that type of experience. The people who don't want to do Ashran don't have to.
  • They have learned a lot from the experience about rewards and driving players to fight each other. Hopefully next time the team tries something like Ashran they can execute better.
  • The dual item level system worked, but it was ugly. Players had two item levels on their gear, with their item level increasing suddenly in combat, which means they couldn't see their states. PvE gear also hit the invisible item level ceiling. Players who didn't PvP full time still felt compelled to go and get PvP gear so that they could do PvP. It was a cool system, but it fell short in a lot of ways.
  • MLG and ESL have shown interest in WoW.


Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Classes
The Shaman one should be more than a "cave" overlooking the Maelstrom, more like a small city built into/out of the cliff.
Calling it a "cave" was perhaps an underwhelming description. Definitely more custom/open than what comes to mind hearing that. (craig_amai)

Character / Items
Artifact's stats will still improve as you defeat BOSSES, Relics: completing major quest lines, DUNGEONS, & RAIDS...
The more difficult the content you do, the higher your weapon's DPS will be. That's been true since 2004, no? (WatcherDev)

UI / Addons
as someone who still uses the default UI, is there any chance that you guys might finally revamp it completely?
I use the default UI! What do you want improved? (Muffinus)

Misc
We're really excited about #Legion, and can't wait to share more info with you, but this account will stay focused on #Warlords for now. (WarcraftDevs)
Once the expansion is further along in development, we'll begin discussing expansion-related topics here. Stay tuned! (WarcraftDevs)

Computers - Setup of the Month
Each month or so we will post a couple of hardware setups for those of you who are thinking of upgrading their computer!

This month
The current SSD prices are fairly flat right now, with most SSDs under $0.50 per gigabyte when on sale.

New CPUs from Intel and GPUs from AMD are here, but they aren't huge improvements over the previous generation.

Depending on how much you want to overclock, you may need to spend a bit more for a better CPU cooler like the NH-D14.

Unless you are doing a lot of video rendering or streaming, you do not need the 6700K and should spend that money elsewhere.

Make sure to keep your AMD and Nvidia drivers up to date.

Don't forget to visit the Computer Forum for any extra questions!


Peripherals/Monitors
ComponentPuppy Dolphin
MonitorASUS VS228H-P 22-Inch Monitor - $115ASUS VS248H-P 24-Inch Monitor - $152
KeyboardKensington Pro Fit Media Keyboard - $22Cyborg V.5 - $53
MouseLogitech G402 - $47Razer DeathAdder - $58
SpeakersCreative A250 2.1 Speaker System - $31Logitech Z313 Speaker System - $35
ComponentNarwhal Unicorn
MonitorDell P2414H Monitor - $225Dell U2412M - $268
KeyboardLogitech G510s - $77Corsair Vengeance K70 - $120
MouseLogitech G502 - $54Razer Naga 2014 - $62
SpeakersLogitech Z323 2.1 Speaker System - $48Logitech Speaker System Z523 - $79


Puppy and Dolphin
All of these parts can be mixed and matched to create a build between Puppy and Dolphin.
ComponentPuppy Dolphin
CaseNZXT Source 210 - $43NZXT Source 210 - $43
Power SupplyEVGA 600B - $63EVGA 600B - $63
CPUAMD FX-6300 - $100AMD FX-8320 - $142
HeatsinkCooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - $27Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - $27
MotherboardASUS M5A97 R2.0 - $80ASUS M5A99FX PRO - $108
MemoryKingston HyperX FURY 8GB 1866 - $458GB G.Skill DDR3 1600 - $57
Graphics CardMSI R7 260X - $100R9 270X / GTX 960 - $160 / $181
Hard DriveWestern Digital Caviar Blue 500GB - $52Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB - $71
DVDAsus 24X SATA DVD+/-RW - $21Asus 24X SATA DVD+/-RW - $21
Total$531$692 - 713


Narwhal and Unicorn
All of these parts can be mixed and matched to create a build between Narwhal and Unicorn.
ComponentNarwhal Unicorn
CaseCooler Master HAF 912 - $50Corsair Air 540 - $130
Power SupplyXFX PRO 750W - $129XFX PRO 750W - $129
CPUIntel 6600K - $250Intel 6600K - $250
HeatsinkScythe Mugen 4 - $52Noctua 6 NH-D14 - $76
MotherboardASUS Z170-A - $165ASUS Z170-A - $165
Memory8GB Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR4 2400 - $5816GB Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR4 2400 - $116
Graphics CardGigabyte R9 380 - $230Gigabyte R9 390 OR MSI GTX 970 - $330
Hard DriveWestern Digital 1TB Caviar Black - $71Western Digital 2TB Caviar Black - $121
SSDCrucial BX100 250GB (Review) - $85
OR
SAMSUNG 850 EVO 250GB (Review) - $90
SanDisk Extreme PRO 240GB (Review) - $130
OR
SAMSUNG 850 Pro 256GB (Review) - $133
DVDAsus 24X SATA DVD+/-RW - $21Asus 24X SATA DVD+/-RW - $21
Total$1111 - 1159$1423 - 1471


Wildstar - Free to Play Teaser
Carbine posted a short teaser for Wildstar's Free to Play update.



Dark Legacy Comics #501 - Making a Strink
DLC #501 takes a look at the Rogue class hall.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Dev Interviews - Legion PvP, Blue Tweets, Setup of the Month, Wildstar, DLC #501 started by chaud View original post
Comments 54 Comments
  1. mmocf60b14b3bd's Avatar
    for over a day im reading news about pvp

    ... fsck pvp, i want to read things to do with pve

    wow has always been and will always be a pve game /:=)
  1. High-Chief Greathoof's Avatar
    Ready to upgrade my computer soon, so glad the setups of the month just came out.
  1. Jaigar's Avatar
    I mostly like the direction they are wanting to head in for pvp. The only thing I question is the forced gear stats. I can no longer choose between mastery or haste. Those will be predetermined.

    A spriest for example, values stats differently based on their level 100 tier talent. Mastery is worth a lot less for auscpious spirits builds. How will their system compensate for this?
  1. IntellectuallyChallenged's Avatar
    Ah yes, PvP. It's only taken over 11 years to do better with something that wasn't originally part of the game and was shoehorned in an to attempt to boost sub numbers.
  1. Dawnseven's Avatar
    Ooooh, mage/rogue smacktalk. \paladingiggle
  1. Goretex's Avatar
    I like pvping to kill my enemies, but I also liked striving to get better gear/honor/conquest. doing pvp for the gear stats or mog was part of the fun for me at least. Now high rated ppl will only get better gear which is fine, but I really didn't want to see a change to not having pvp stats on pvp gear. It was nice to know who put in time to get that gear and who didn't. Now a person who has pvped for a couple days can enter and be on equal footing as someone who has pvped the whole expansion. Now the ones that put in time really get nothing lol, I don't like that.
  1. Xuvial's Avatar
    Looks like WoW PvP might actually have a chance at NOT being a complete joke for once.

    Blizzard are finally getting serious about PvP (after 10 years mind you) and normalizing stats in Arenas/BGs to make things fair. You'll be able to wear whatever you want since it will be 99% cosmetic in PvP, having high-end raid gear will only make a few % difference at most.

    What really annoys me is really the fact that this should've been implemented YEARS ago back in BC/WotLk when arena took off. Blizzard somehow convinced themselves it was possible to balance 10+ classes in both PvE and PvP at the same time using the same sets of abilities. They dicked-around with that concept for so many years, players faced so much frustration, the solution was so simple...and NOW they do it? In the 6th fucking expansion??
  1. mmocbaee0bd557's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Goretex View Post
    I like pvping to kill my enemies, but I also liked striving to get better gear/honor/conquest. doing pvp for the gear stats or mog was part of the fun for me at least. Now high rated ppl will only get better gear which is fine, but I really didn't want to see a change to not having pvp stats on pvp gear. It was nice to know who put in time to get that gear and who didn't. Now a person who has pvped for a couple days can enter and be on equal footing as someone who has pvped the whole expansion. Now the ones that put in time really get nothing lol, I don't like that.
    git gud then
  1. mmoc82789f7f25's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by deathsreaper View Post
    I love this change and the one thing I am going to love the most is all the QQ that will happen to everyone that loves to farm their pvp gear ASAP and just two shot all the new pvp players coming in the season. Going to take actual skill again to win in pvp, that will be love. That is the reason that I hate doing BGs right now. I see so many fresh 100s that just run around and after 3 min they just stop trying anything because they are just constantly getting destroyed so there is no point in them even playing. They run in hit one skill get stunned and they are dead before the stun even runs out dead in seconds. Blizzard stick to your guns on the burst damage and new pvp system you have dont let the QQ phase you
    Dont know what game you have been playing but i think its not wow. From wotlk it started raining epics.
    Now in WOD it seriously takes you 2 hours running around in ashran as a fresh 100 collecting boxes with blues, en with the quest 1 epic. 2 shotted? Come again please. In just a couple hours you have full pvp gear....
  1. frijoles's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by chaud View Post
    Cost. Once you go up to 1440p you need a better GPU, spend more on the monitor, and have to upgrade your GPU more frequently to play at high settings. We are getting closer to 1440p making sense at the high end, but not quite there yet.
    Interestingly enough, 1440p though for WoW runs fine on a 970, and I imagine with the setup you have you'd see solid framerates. I used to run a 2500k processor and a card less than the 970 and get respectable framerates @ 1440.

    Thanks for the reply
  1. Arvandor's Avatar
    The current state of Ashran can be fun for people that are interested in that type of experience. The people who don't want to do Ashran don't have to.

    one of greates fucking bullshit that i have ever read!


    very fast responce from dlc..

    the dalaran sewers fail begins!
  1. truckboattruck's Avatar
    wouldnt it be nice to just have resil gear again and call it a day?
    i mean sheesh, this loopy nonsense just turns me off
  1. Sib's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by dontrelleroosevelt View Post
    Honestly, this is the best thing to ever happen to PvP.

    The true end game is raiding, not wasting time beating up on other players. That's for kids.

    - - - Updated - - -

    The glory days of PvP were before PvP gear existed. They can exist again, in some capacity.
    Man, that opinion is silly as shit. From the very beginning of Warcraft, it has been Orcs vs. Humans. Just because you don't want to or can't pvp, it doesn't mean the basis hasn't always been there.
  1. lunethzero's Avatar
    If Retribution is good and in a competitively viable spot ill play it and be happy. And if not... then to hell with them.

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