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Timewalking Reward Costs
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
They already tweeted a pretty stand-pat stance about this. Their claim is it's "meant to take dedication". I'm not expecting any type of change until after BlizzCon at the earliest.
One of the problems with Twitter as a medium is the lack of space for nuance. There are hundreds of mounts in WoW, and they are obtainable by a wide variety of different means. Some are simple to get, and cheaply bought off vendors; some require great feats of skill like Gladiator and current Mythic raid mounts; some require tremendous luck (e.g. the Elegon mount); and some require long-term effort (e.g. the Violet Proto-Drake from A Long Strange Trip, or Darkmoon Faire prizes).

Ultimately they are all cosmetic rewards, and Timewalking is designed to be an evergreen system that we will be expanding over the years. Unlike, say, a Tanaan rep mount that clearly was designed to be earned within the scope of this patch, there will be people doing Timewalking (especially as more dungeons, and more expansions' content get added) throughout the future of WoW, and this represents a long-term goal within that framework.

If you want to rush through dozens of Timewalking dungeons in a short timeframe to be one of the first to get the mount, and you'd find that experience satisfying, then by all means do so. But I certainly wouldn't say that's the intended approach here. The 500-Badge quest turn-in is a once-per-event thing (which we definitely could have made clearer), so if you want to take a more measured pace and just do the Timewalking quest each time the event comes around while you happen to otherwise actively be playing, you can get the mount with just a few total hours spent (though over a longer period of real time). It's up to you. In the meantime, there are other items (notably some great alt catch-up gear) available through the system, and those are much more attainably priced.

Accolade Trinkets and PvP Gearing
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
We do not plan to put the random-stat Accolade trinkets on the vendors.

However, we did uncover a bug that was causing them to provide twice the secondary stat bonus than was intended. That bug was corrected in patch 6.2.2.

Frankly (speaking for myself as a player, and not for the development team), I'm not convinced that the Accolade trinkets are all they're cracked up to be.

The Wild Gladiator's Accolade of Dominance provides 403 Intellect and 403 Versatility in PvP combat. The Insignia provides 469 Versatility and a 20-second 1330 Intellect proc. In sustained combat, it tends to proc around every 60 seconds, giving it roughly a 33% uptime for an average benefit of ~440 Intellect.

Combine that with the fact that you have to actually be damaging someone for it to proc (which increases the effective uptime by cutting out sections where you're not hitting anyone) and the increased burst potential by allowing you to use your hardest-hitting abilities while it's active... and I'd argue that for the vast majority of players the proc trinket is easily better.

Granted, you might want a different secondary stat which isn't available on the Insignia. In that case I would argue that the difference between 469 Versatility and, lets say, 403 Mastery would be EXTREMELY minor at best.

I could also see an argument for those who are playing Humans, in which case you'd likely be comparing the Accolades to the Badges (the on-use trinkets) instead of the Insignias. As you can probably imagine, buffing Humans isn't exactly high on our priority list at the moment.

All that said, I won't pretend for a second that I'm the best Arena player, and these are obviously just my personal opinions. I'm just not seeing what makes the Accolade trinkets so incredibly attractive that they're absolutely mandatory to the point that it's worth doing content you don't enjoy for a chance to get hold of one.

I'm not really defending RNG PvP gearing, and I think the actions the development team has taken since 6.2 released speak pretty well to say that the devs aren't happy with the way it worked initially either. And I totally understand why it's frustrating that those actions aren't extending to the Accolade trinkets. All I'm saying is that, if you really don't like Ashran, just don't do it. There are other trinket options, and they're -- at worst -- still pretty good.

EDIT: I should also mention again that I'm really only speaking on behalf of myself and the way I enjoy the game. Just trying to have a conversation here.

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
If you talk about "bad people on the internet", what kind of people do you refer to? Those who are critical? Those who threaten?
Those who cross a line. No one minds critique. (holinka)

Ghostcrawler Tweets
Ghostcrawler still occasionally talks about WoW. Remember that he no longer works for or speaks for Blizzard.
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Hey GC, got any thoughts on Health of the Game vs Player enjoyment? I always feel bad about Cata heroic difficulty caving.
I could write volumes on this. Players respect sticking by your guns to an extent, but at some point it becomes out of touch. (OccupyGStreet)

Developer Communication
Is there substantial data to suggest that dev/player communication results in higher sales and retention?
No, I don't believe so, which is why it is so controversial inside studios, e.g. Valve doesn't seem to value it much. (OccupyGStreet)

miss the dev watercooler that blizz did to keep peeps informed. was concise and it came from one source. was that your idea?
I can't recall. I worked on it a lot with Bashiok and Zarhym. (OccupyGStreet)
Do you remember how many hours of discussion, drafting, revision and review went into each one, on average?
I tend to write very fast, which is why I can do all of this. (OccupyGStreet)
A blog might take 2 hours depending on topic. No idea on editing. (OccupyGStreet)



Poll - What a Long, Strange Trip It's Been
The post covering rewards talked about the What a Long, Strange Trip It's Been achievement and mount, so we decided to see how active players are doing towards obtaining the Violet Proto-Drake. Only 15.8% of players have earned the achievement! Have you completed the achievement yet?



WildStar Free to Play Launches September 29
The new Free to Play version of the game, WildStar: Reloaded, is coming later this month!

This article was originally published in forum thread: Timewalking Reward Costs, Accolade Trinkets and PvP Gearing, Tweets, Wildstar F2P started by chaud View original post
Published on 2015-09-04 09:52 AM
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  1. moveth's Avatar
    Wildstar wont stop Emailing me about them going Free To Play. It's actually getting kind of annoying.
  1. Lahis's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by moveth View Post
    Wildstar wont stop Emailing me about them going Free To Play. It's actually getting kind of annoying.
    "We are becoming free! Please come back to give us more money!"
  1. Straamibuu's Avatar
    Did Wildstar ever get a mac client? Still not going to lug my pc around the world
  1. tristannarutofan's Avatar
    I re-downloaded wildstar thinking it was already FTP. I saw it wasnt, but i was really bored with wow that week. I remember how often wow players would put in a ticket and get 1-7 days "just to experience this event before it goes" or "To buy a game token"

    So i sent a ticket asking if i could get 1 or 2 days gametime so i can have time to see if the game works on my computer, and how well it does. Because IF it does i was going to go ahead and buy a month just for the hell of it. I.E i was offering to give them money.

    The reply said that they USED to have a 10 day free trial which isnt available anymore and that they are hoping to go FTP soon.

    Like....why even tell me about a feature that is no longer active?! If you are going to disappoint me dont do it in a way that glaringly speaks of your inability to provide good customer service!
  1. mmoc5337f9d117's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by tristannarutofan View Post
    Like....why even tell me about a feature that is no longer active?! If you are going to disappoint me dont do it in a way that glaringly speaks of your inability to provide good customer service!
    I mean you asked about it. Would it have been better if noone answered you?
  1. DonSerrot's Avatar
    I finished What a Long Strange Trip It's Been a looooooong time ago. In fact I just looked and it was still back in Wrath when I finished it. I started playing so close to the end of BC that I'm practically a Wrath baby so I didn't spend too much of my time in this game on that achievement.
  1. Granyala's Avatar
    The post covering rewards talked about the What a Long, Strange Trip It's Been achievement and mount, so we decided to see how active players are doing towards obtaining the Violet Proto-Drake. Only 15.8% of players have earned the achievement! Have you completed the achievement yet?
    Yup, back in the days of Wrath. Wee free 310% riding.
  1. Danuel's Avatar
    "What a Long, Strange Trip It's Been" - and damn School of Hard Knocks PvP element made my horde main cry.
  1. ttak82's Avatar
    57% of the guys here claim to have completed the event meta lol. Some of the Mmo-C crowd really plays wow a lot more than the average joe. (other stats also concur with this).

    (I have the violet proto drake since late wrath)
  1. glyneth's Avatar
    I did Strange Trip on 9 characters (never finished School of Hard Knocks on my warrior, and skipped everything on my monk as it didn't give 310% flying anymore). I had nightmares about SoHK while finishing it for the last 4, which is why I backed off finishing it on my warrior!
  1. Geckoo's Avatar
    I'll never have "What a Long, Strange Trip It's Been" as long as "School of Hard Knocks" is part of the requirement. I already had every other achievement required back in WotLK, but i simply don't like pvp and never play pvp, so i won't get it unless extreme boredom. (not complaining, i made my choice to ignore it back in WotLK)
  1. JunkHead's Avatar
    I never finished the Long Strange Trip achievement. Never liked seasonal events. Occasionally I decide to work on it and I'll do an event or two, but I always get bored and quit. Currently I have 3 out of 8 completed.
  1. Christhammer's Avatar
    Will be getting the Violet Proto Drake this month! So damn happy. Best looking mount in the game in my opinion. "School of Hard Knocks" was not that hard btw.
  1. kamuimac's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Danuel View Post
    "What a Long, Strange Trip It's Been" - and damn School of Hard Knocks PvP element made my horde main cry.
    ye those pvp parts of it are utterly terrible for anyone who doesnt like pvp - also one of main reasons i never finished it
  1. Arvandor's Avatar
    blizzard double the badge reward on each boss! problem solved!

    its not a trick its a player choice..
  1. Kryn's Avatar
    It'll be interesting to see the changes in Wildstar especially since it looks like they've moved away from their old hype of just being an mmo for Hardcore raiders. Yeah, when it was coming out that type of hype was good in setting it apart in the sea of mmos. But also to me that hype cost Wildstar because casual players weren't willing to give it a shot thanks to the Hardcore hype.
  1. mmoceb1073a651's Avatar
    I was totally into events at that time, and am also a mount collector. On my server, I was one of the first people who got the violet proto drake, it was in the first days when you could earn the last missing achievements. Was even finishing the meta on 3 more alts because of free 310% skill. And I hated school of hard knocks with a passion!
  1. Suggs's Avatar
    I dont mind that the mounts n toys take a while to collect with them badges, im only after the toys anyway but what annoys me is having to grind fucking OLD content i have already sat through a hundred plus times. Dont tell me this is new content, its bad enough being gimped to fuck on me lock by being scaled down.
  1. darkminaz's Avatar
    got the acievment by just doing the events and the acievmentpoints linked to them. Well except one that i had to wait for almost a year and then almost forgot (not like it really did matter at that point since i never use the mount but i kinda wanted to have the meta acievment)

    the new timewalking .. well alright, i still expected less effort for a recolor mount. But then again most pretty new mounts are shop items.
  1. beanman12345's Avatar
    I hate pvp in this game, so i'll never get the achievement since i just don't want to do it. I am okay with that though.
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