Warcraft Movie Recap

Originally Posted by Neony

Not really sure why we are discussing a movie on mmo-champion's main page. Thought this was a mmo-gaming site, not movie reviewers guild

Always has to be one sourpuss doesn't there.....lighten up you boring fart

"Retelling the story was a chance for redemption"

Meh. This is a huge red flag - Metzen CANNOT write characters unless they're redeemed. It's BORING. I want evil/bad characters who stay true to what they are. It would be like redeeming Saruman or Sauron in LOTR. There's no fucking point - it wouldn't make them more interesting or compelling - in fact, it makes the fight against them that much more compelling and important and dangerous, because they can't be fucking redeemed.

"Patton was also fascinated by the fact that her character was half human and half Orc, living a life of pain and struggle as a slave to Gul'dan. She had to fight to gain respect in the Orc culture and now feels like a fish out of water in the human world."

Erm... What the hell? She is half-orc half-draenei. How the hell they got humans in Draenor?

"Paula Patton plays Garona. She got the script and loved it because it read like a novel, with great background and history for every character.
Patton was also fascinated by the fact that her character was half human and half Orc, living a life of pain and struggle as a slave to Gul'dan. She had to fight to gain respect in the Orc culture and now feels like a fish out of water in the human world."

Garona is half dranaei and half orc. Where did they get the idea about her being half human half orc? She believed she was human but actually was not. Either someone is wrong there or simply poor wording.

Originally Posted by Amerissis

Movie universe <> game universe. Just like all those hero movies which aren't 1 on 1 copies of the comicbooks. Human/orc in a movie about a war between humans and orcs is obviously much more interesting then half 'race that isn't even in the movie'.

You are wrong. Please stop spreading lies.

Draenei are in the movie, you see gul'dan drain there souls to open the portal.

Garona also BELIEVED she was half human half orc after she left through the portal, she believes this until she eventually finds out that she is indeed half draenei half orc.

It's not hard to do some research

Looks amazing

Re: Garona

Assuming comics are cannon, she IS half-Draenei.
... However....
She believes she's half human. Khadgar, et all agreed with this in TLG. At the time of the first war, that's the way the story is told.

Fans have to be careful not to "meta-game" with what they know currently. Think in terms of what the characters know at the time of the story, with the information they have on hand. Her true lineage, even in cannon, isn't revealed until later. How are non-WC movie fans going to have that "Darth Vader is Luke's Father" moment, if some d-bag tells them all the plot twists before they've even seen A New Hope?

What I really want to know is how much Draenei / Eradar / Burning Legion stuff are they going to have time to squeeze in. Some amount of it has to exist to make the story run, but... This seems to be spanning at least RotH and TLG, possibly more... Gonna be a long movie no matter how you slice it.

PS: Garon Halforcen --- It's an older link, but it still checks out.

Well said kerghan. I salute you!

Lakeshire looks awesome. Guess the bridge hasn't been destroyed yet.

ITT: A bunch of people who never played Warcraft 1. Back in Warcraft 1, Garona was half-human, half-orc. It wasn't until the Burning Crusade that she was retconned to be half-draenei, half-orc.

Originally Posted by GMBigKev

ITT: A bunch of people who never played Warcraft 1. Back in Warcraft 1, Garona was half-human, half-orc. It wasn't until the Burning Crusade that she was retconned to be half-draenei, half-orc.

Sorry but that doesn't make any sense. How can she be half-human if the orcs never met the humans before, is the character that dumb she can't figure out that makes no sense? Who told her she's half-human anyway "what the heck is a human"? This is the first time the orcs ever encountered a human and the first time humans ever encountered orcs. I'd rather they just left it mysterious why she didn't look full Orc (maybe show some true female orcs). So stupid.

Originally Posted by GMBigKev

ITT: A bunch of people who never played Warcraft 1. Back in Warcraft 1, Garona was half-human, half-orc. It wasn't until the Burning Crusade that she was retconned to be half-draenei, half-orc.

I loved the part in WC 1 where Durotan met with Llane and they decided to kick the shit out of the other orc clans together.

I LOVED the part in WC 1 where Llane wanted to bang Garona.

I Loooooooooved the part in WC 1 where the human cities formed the Alliance.

OH WAIT.

NONE OF THAT SHIT FUCKING HAPPENED.

Let me remind to the lore screamers - ammount of people watching this will vastly exceed WarCraft players combined.
It DOES NOT matter if YOU don't like lore changes, because THEY don't know ANYTHING about it.
Movie is not for just you, but for EVERYONE.

Originally Posted by kerghan

Re: Garona

Assuming comics are cannon, she IS half-Draenei.
... However....
She believes she's half human. Khadgar, et all agreed with this in TLG. At the time of the first war, that's the way the story is told.

Fans have to be careful not to "meta-game" with what they know currently. Think in terms of what the characters know at the time of the story, with the information they have on hand. Her true lineage, even in cannon, isn't revealed until later. How are non-WC movie fans going to have that "Darth Vader is Luke's Father" moment, if some d-bag tells them all the plot twists before they've even seen A New Hope?

Ye, but her belief is make no sense.I mean, ok, Gul'dan had her magically aged but she "grow up" on draenor where no one knew what a human is.
I'm not sure how they will explain her background in the movie.

Its even bigger BS if you are not familiar with the WC lore. Like, "OMG THERE IS AN UNKNOWN THREAT WE'VE NEVER FACED BEFORE FROM ANOTHER PLANET" oh, look, a half blood.
Seems legit.

Originally Posted by Easo

Let me remind to the lore screamers - ammount of people watching this will vastly exceed WarCraft players combined.
It DOES NOT matter if YOU don't like lore changes, because THEY don't know ANYTHING about it.
Movie is not for just you, but for EVERYONE.

Everyone sucks.

I can draw it out a bit more realy, make some purple prose'ed speech about lowest common denominator...
But really? It all boils down to "Everyone Sucks."

If Wow gets a jump in subs because of this garbage movie, it's going to be like twilight 2.o on the RP realms.
We have enough issues without people thinking Llane would stick his dick in greenskin.

I like the trailer, even though I have some issues with the look of it. They're minor things that are a personal preference, and I don't think they'll detract from the movie itself. I'm really excited to see it in June!

I know people pointed out that Garona is half-Orc, half-Draenei. According to a lore page I read, Garona believed she was half-human for a long time, so I'm assuming the movie shows her during that time period.

Legion looks amazing too! I hope it lives up to the hype!

Originally Posted by Easo

Let me remind to the lore screamers - ammount of people watching this will vastly exceed WarCraft players combined.
It DOES NOT matter if YOU don't like lore changes, because THEY don't know ANYTHING about it.
Movie is not for just you, but for EVERYONE.

How the fuck is this relevant to anything? They could've kept the lore the same and EVERYONE would like it.

Originally Posted by Thorngrove

I loved the part in WC 1 where Durotan met with Llane and they decided to kick the shit out of the other orc clans together.

I LOVED the part in WC 1 where Llane wanted to bang Garona.

I Loooooooooved the part in WC 1 where the human cities formed the Alliance.

OH WAIT.

NONE OF THAT SHIT FUCKING HAPPENED.

1.) Just because something is not explicitly stated or playable in-game, does not mean it never occurred, we don't have enough informatoin to assume that what we saw in the trailer was actually the humans and Orc's joining forces, it's quite possible that Durotan attempts to ally with the humans, but they are ambushed, and it all leads to Durotan joining the horde anyway.


2.) Llane and Garona were close friends, and she was very reluctant and sad when she was all but forced to assassinate him. It's not that much of a stretch to assume there was some chemistry between them.


3.) The Lordaeron Alliance, formed after the first war, was formed by the seven Human Kingdoms, as well as the Dwarves from Khaz Modan. Just because we don't see the Dwarves from Khaz Modan present in the trailer, does not mean they didn't take part.

The movie will probably get some good reviews from non WoW-Players.
But I think, and as some others stated, the lore will be changed. And the CGI looks bad (orc faces).
Don't know if I will watch it.

Originally Posted by Twiztedterry

1.) Just because something is not explicitly stated or playable in-game, does not mean it never occurred, we don't have enough informatoin to assume that what we saw in the trailer was actually the humans and Orc's joining forces, it's quite possible that Durotan attempts to ally with the humans, but they are ambushed, and it all leads to Durotan joining the horde anyway.


2.) Llane and Garona were close friends, and she was very reluctant and sad when she was all but forced to assassinate him. It's not that much of a stretch to assume there was some chemistry between them.


3.) The Lordaeron Alliance, formed after the first war, was formed by the seven Human Kingdoms, as well as the Dwarves from Khaz Modan. Just because we don't see the Dwarves from Khaz Modan present in the trailer, does not mean they didn't take part.

1.) Rise of the Horde. Lord of the Clans. Never happened. Every book and lore stance has the Frostwolves gone into exile well before they even saw Stormwind. Wowpedia, which they tout as a source for getting things right, even says this!

2.) Llane and Garona were not "Close." They were friendly yes, but there was never a time he was gonna rail her. No. Garona goes into this whole thing with Khadgar in the books about how she isn't attractive, how orcs see her humanness and humans see her as an orc. Llane is never shown to do anything but treat her like a person, not a "I must caress your face and tell you we will bang after we win" girl.
NEEDLESS ROMANCE FOR ROMANCE SAKE IS BAD.

It's the elf and the dwarf all over again!

3.) They talk about forming the Alliance in the TRAILER.
The movie is about the FIRST WAR.
We see Dalaran!
First war didn't even get past Khaz Modan. Lothar gonna bitch out with Varian before the fighting even starts?
Think we're gonna get a khromie after scene at the end? Deadpool riding her about the timeways so we can see the formation of the alliance after llane gets shived by his "Love"?

Come on.