Crystalized Fel Now Sold For Valor, Legion Alpha, Blue Posts, DLC #520

Woot, no longer need skill for the legendary, just like all of last expansion!

My guess for the new build is

1 new zone
1-2 new dungeons
More specs and artifact quests playable

Originally Posted by Jonnusthegreat

Woot, no longer need skill for the legendary, just like all of last expansion!

did it ever

Originally Posted by Vedni

did it ever

Nope, not ever.

Originally Posted by Jonnusthegreat

Woot, no longer need skill for the legendary, just like all of last expansion!

"no longer" as if it was needed in the first place, ever.

You can AFK through LFR for the legendary ring...while you can't upgrade it unless you do normal...this really doesnt effect the ease or "skill" to obtain the legendary....However it will make gearing up my tank ring so much faster and gives a reason to continue running Valor content for people with alts who have the ring.

Originally Posted by Jonnusthegreat

Woot, no longer need skill for the legendary, just like all of last expansion!

Normal archimonde doesnt take skill to beat, this just makes it much less painful for people with two rings to max out both

Please have Prot Pally stuff! Please have Prot Pally stuff! Please have Prot Pally stuff! Please have Prot Pally stuff! Please have Prot Pally stuff! Please have Prot Pally stuff!

I'm kind of surprised Blizz hasn't pulled the trigger on just making personal loot the only loot. I mean this expac proved they are plenty willing to simply decree 'you'll do it this way and you'll like it' and this seems like a no brainer.

No more ninjas, largely eliminates guild drama over loot, loot funneling would no longer be a thing (admittedly not a problem per se but I'd sure find the mythic race more interesting if there were a few guilds participating outside of the ones who are able to schedule multiple full clears in week 1). And on Blizz's end it would likely lead to people subbing for longer and get a longer lifespan out of a raid.

Why all the butt hurt? who cares if casuals get stuff. really. its a game. They can even buy the mount for all i care. Im long past about caring for silly things like this.

Originally Posted by Gallahadd

Please have Prot Pally stuff! Please have Prot Pally stuff! Please have Prot Pally stuff! Please have Prot Pally stuff! Please have Prot Pally stuff! Please have Prot Pally stuff!

*New Build has Holy paladins but not Prot Paladins*

The Dark Legacy strip irks me! Donald clearly forgot to hit enter before he started typing and not the slash as Nyte claims.. tut tut

Originally Posted by thorvath

I'm kind of surprised Blizz hasn't pulled the trigger on just making personal loot the only loot. I mean this expac proved they are plenty willing to simply decree 'you'll do it this way and you'll like it' and this seems like a no brainer.

No more ninjas, largely eliminates guild drama over loot, loot funneling would no longer be a thing (admittedly not a problem per se but I'd sure find the mythic race more interesting if there were a few guilds participating outside of the ones who are able to schedule multiple full clears in week 1). And on Blizz's end it would likely lead to people subbing for longer and get a longer lifespan out of a raid.

If there is loot drama in the guild due to ML, then thats a problem with the players not the system. I can agree with PL in pugs however, atleast non mythic pugs.

At least they finally stopped hugging "real raiders" and gave the majority of their players something to do besides log on and run BGs for the best PVE gear.

Originally Posted by Jonnusthegreat

Woot, no longer need skill for the legendary, just like all of last expansion!

And all the way back to Vanilla~

That statement on loot is complete horseshit.

Generally, the Master Looter system is intended to be used in groups of people you trust. By joining a PuG raid with Master Looter set, you join knowing that the Master Looter has the power to assign the loot. If you don't seek precise clarification, in chat, on how the loot will be allocated, our Game Masters cannot then assist you on the basis of unspoken assumptions when so many grey areas are in play.

I can personal point out several different occasions where players have reported ninjas, with proof posted in chat and in the group finder listing, stating that loot is MS-OS, had stolen loot and GMs did nothing about it. Hell everyone on my friends list has had at least one piece of gear ninja'ed this expansion. The forums (both here, the official message board and reddit) is fulled with pictures/videos of dudes ninjaing gear. We know its your policy to not report punishments given to players, that's cool and all but dont use that as a smoke screen to hide your lack of action.

I will use my report as an example :

Got into a heroic highmaul group that stated in the group finder listing as MS-OS.
As we were summoning, multiple people got the RL/ML to state MS-OS.
We pull and killed the boss, the DPS was horrid, the healers sucked and one tank carried us to a kill.
ring and plate helm drops.
RL/ML takes the ring, abandons the helm and leaves.
At least 3 people report the ninja.
Player still had the ring until he replaced it in BRF a couple of weeks later (was watching his armory).

In my example, the language could not be any clearer but nothing was done. One case in a thousand with the same result. the asshat gets what he/she/it wants and a group has had its time wasted.

I play on a small realm, with little active players on the horde side. Raiding is something I enjoyed but I cant get enough players to form a decent guild group so am forced to pug. I lead groups here and there but am usually need one or two bosses and I hate to be an ass and drop a group after getting what I want.

Yeah so you are either understaffed, ignoring tickets, or incompetent. I hope its not the latter, I have seen you pull some amazing acts of justice (see Ashes of Alar story from about 2 years ago) and almost every encounter I have had with a GM has been pleasant even if I did not get the answers / actions I wanted. So please stem the tide of toxic players that destroy this game.

Originally Posted by Saishiro

The Dark Legacy strip irks me! Donald clearly forgot to hit enter before he started typing and not the slash as Nyte claims.. tut tut

Fucking Donald, man.

this dlc is probably the funniest to date. And i hve reported ninjas before, only to et replied: they are loot master, and unless they willing forfeit the item, they cant do nothing because loot master decides how loot gets distributed.

Originally Posted by the0o

That statement on loot is complete horseshit.



I can personal point out several different occasions where players have reported ninjas, with proof posted in chat and in the group finder listing, stating that loot is MS-OS, had stolen loot and GMs did nothing about it. Hell everyone on my friends list has had at least one piece of gear ninja'ed this expansion. The forums (both here, the official message board and reddit) is fulled with pictures/videos of dudes ninjaing gear. We know its your policy to not report punishments given to players, that's cool and all but dont use that as a smoke screen to hide your lack of action.

I will use my report as an example :

Got into a heroic highmaul group that stated in the group finder listing as MS-OS.
As we were summoning, multiple people got the RL/ML to state MS-OS.
We pull and killed the boss, the DPS was horrid, the healers sucked and one tank carried us to a kill.
ring and plate helm drops.
RL/ML takes the ring, abandons the helm and leaves.
At least 3 people report the ninja.
Player still had the ring until he replaced it in BRF a couple of weeks later (was watching his armory).

In my example, the language could not be any clearer but nothing was done. One case in a thousand with the same result. the asshat gets what he/she/it wants and a group has had its time wasted.

I play on a small realm, with little active players on the horde side. Raiding is something I enjoyed but I cant get enough players to form a decent guild group so am forced to pug. I lead groups here and there but am usually need one or two bosses and I hate to be an ass and drop a group after getting what I want.

Yeah so you are either understaffed, ignoring tickets, or incompetent. I hope its not the latter, I have seen you pull some amazing acts of justice (see Ashes of Alar story from about 2 years ago) and almost every encounter I have had with a GM has been pleasant even if I did not get the answers / actions I wanted. So please stem the tide of toxic players that destroy this game.

NO your comments in the example are vague and could totally be clearer. MS>OS is vague and meaningless and does nothing because nothing is spelled out. Master Loot means just that they are master looter and can change rules anytime they want, don't want to worry about don't do anything if master loot is on.

Originally Posted by Saishiro

The Dark Legacy strip irks me! Donald clearly forgot to hit enter before he started typing and not the slash as Nyte claims.. tut tut

Hitting slash opens chat with a slash already typed in. No need to hit enter first.

Originally Posted by Jonnusthegreat

Woot, no longer need skill for the legendary, just like all of last expansion!

just stop tryhard.