Update (4:25 PM EST): The ability that completes a world quest only works on the smaller quests, not the more challenging and rewarding quests.

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Legion - Order Hall Upgrades
In Legion, your Order Hall has a selection of upgrades you can unlock that help you and your followers.

  • There are 6 tiers of upgrades, with 2 choices for each tier.
  • Each tier must be unlocked before you can access the next one.
  • Switching choices requires the full time and cost that the initial research did.
  • Currently each class has access to a different set of upgrades, but many of the effects are the same.
  • All classes have an identical effect for their final tier, granting them the ability to equip another one of the legendary items coming in Legion.
  • You can see more information on the WoWDB pages, such as the 3 Day cooldown on Frost Wyrm


Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Research Costs


Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Death Knight (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Death's Boon (Tier 1) - Increases the chance for quest rewards to get a rare or epic Bonus Upgrade from non-repeatable quests.
  • Swarm (Tier 1) - Increases mission success chance for every Ghoul or Geist on the mission.
  • Deaths Advance (Tier 2) - Increases success chance of missions with Hazards.
  • Call of the Grave (Tier 2) - Increase the maximum number of Ebon Knights and Ebon Champions you can recruit from 2 to 4.
  • Construct Quarter (Tier 3) - Newly recruited Ghouls become Geists, which have: Endless Horde - Increases success chance of missions by 40%.
  • Live by the Sword (Tier 3) - Newly recruited Ebon Knights become Ebon Champions, which add: Champion of the Ebon Order - Ebon Champions have a spec, and can counter Bosses
  • Dark Horsemen (Tier 4) - Grants access to the Dreadsteed Hitching Post, allowing you to summon a Deathcharger which allows you to perform mounted combat for a short duration.
  • Reanimation (Tier 4) - Chance for a Ghoul or Geist to be recruited whenever you recruit an Ebon Knight or Ebon Champion.
  • Frost Wyrm (Tier 5) - Call down an Frost Wrym to instantly complete a World Quest on your map.
  • Brothers in Arms (Tier 5) - You can place a work order for Champion armaments and equipment.
  • Legends from the Grave (Tier 6) - Increase the number of Legendary items you can equip by 1.

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Paladin (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Light's Favor (Tier 1) - Increases the chance for quest rewards to get a rare or epic Bonus Upgrade from non-repeatable quests.
  • Blessing of Kings (Tier 1) - Increase success chance by 20% on the first mission of the day.
  • Righteous Blessing (Tier 2) - Increase success chance against Spells by 20% on all missions.
  • Argent Call (Tier 2) - Increase the maximum number of Silver Hand Knights and Champions you can recruit from 2 to 4.
  • As One (Tier 3) - Newly recruited Silver Hand Squires become Silver Hand Phalanx, which add: Divine Bulwark - Increases success chance of missions by 20%.
  • Champion of the Silver Hand (Tier 3) - Newly recruited Silver Hand Knights become Silver Hand Champions, which add: Guardians of Kings - Increases success chance when accompnied by Silver Hand Squires or Phalanx.
  • Argent Steed (Tier 4) - Grants access to the Argent Charger Hitching Post, allowing you to summon a Charger which allows you to perform mounted combat.
  • To Arms! (Tier 4) - Chance for a Squire or Phalax to be recruited whenever you recruit a Knight or Champion.
  • Holy Purpose (Tier 5) - Focus the Holy Purpose of the order to instantly complete a World Quest on your map.
  • Plowshares to Swords (Tier 5) - You can place a work order for Champion armaments and equipment.
  • Legends of the Righteous (Tier 6) - Increase the number of Legendary items you can equip by 1.

Priest (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)

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Warrior (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Odyn's Favor (Tier 1) - Increases the chance for quest rewards to get a rare or epic Bonus Upgrade from non-repeatable quests.
  • Rallying Cry (Tier 1) - Increases the success chance of the first mission you run each day based on the vitality of your troops.
  • Forced March (Tier 2) - Reduce mission duration of all missions by 30%.
  • Abundant Valor (Tier 2) - Increase the maximum number of Shieldmaidens and Val'kyr you can recruit from 2 to 4.
  • Trial by Fire (Tier 3) - Newly recruited Valajar Aspirants become Stormforged Valajar, which add: Thunderstruck - Increased mission success chance by 30% when Minions are present.
  • Ascension (Tier 3) - Newly recruited Shieldmaidens become Valkyra Shieldmaidens, which add: Flight of the Valkyra - Mission duration reduced.
  • Into the Pit! (Tier 4) - You can see and loot the chest rewards contained within the Arena of Glory.
  • Spoils of War (Tier 4) - Completing World Quests with a Combat Ally provides extra Order Hall Resources.
  • Might of Mjolnir (Tier 5) - Unleash the Might of Mjolnir to instantly complete a World Quest on your map.
  • Heavenly Forge (Tier 5) - You can place a work order for Champion armaments and equipment.
  • Legends of Ragnarok (Tier 6) - Increase the number of Legendary items you can equip by 1.



Warcraft Movie Updates
Duncan Jones and Robert Kazinsky shared some pictures and video of the Lion's Pride Inn set on Twitter. There were also a few new shots in an Italian trailer.





Artifact Knowledge
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Max-level players in this build may notice an important new Artifact feature. The researcher/scribe NPC in your Class Hall will offer you a quest to retrieve a set of tomes from around the world. Once these are recovered, you can instruct your researcher to work on deciphering these tomes. Each step of research will require some Order Resources (which are primarily obtained through World Quests), and will grant increased "Artifact Knowledge."

Increasing Artifact Knowledge permanently increases your rate of Artifact Power gains, and this bonus applies to all artifact weapons your character may possess. (And no, Artifact Power items obtained at a lower Knowledge level won't automatically update, so hoarding items for future use won't benefit you.) This system is key to the pacing of overall artifact progression, and to making it easier for players to maintain multiple artifacts if they so desire. For example, at Knowledge Level 7, you would be earning Artifact Power at over triple the base rate. Thus, if you wanted to switch to a spec you hadn't yet tried at that point, you'd find yourself very quickly able to get that artifact up to par with your primary one.

As your scribes progress through their translation and research, you will fill in pages of a great tome in your Class Hall that provides more backstory and information about your artifact (this is not yet fully hooked up for some classes). Finally, in the live game, the speed at which your researchers can work will increase as the expansion progresses, allowing latecomers or alts to catch up on their artifact progress.

The tuning of the experience and Knowledge curves is still in flux.

Does this apply to leveling quest artifact power gains as well as those, atm, give by far best artifact power gains. Right now I see myself avoiding every quest that gives AP tokens until like 2-3 weeks in and getting a massive amount of AP.
A number of non-repeatable sources of power will not be affected by Knowledge for this exact reason - notably level-up quests and treasures. The goal here is a system where the right way to play is to just... do stuff that you enjoy, accruing Artifact Power along the way.

Raid Testing Schedule - April 25-26
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
On Monday, April 25, and Tuesday, April 26, we will continue our Legion Alpha raid testing.

Remember that Heroic difficulty scales for any group size between 10 and 30 players, so feel free to assemble and bring a group of any size within that range. Mythic, of course, requires 20 and does not scale.

Monday, April 25

Star Augur Etraeus - Heroic Nighthold
13:30 PDT (16:30 EDT, 22:30 CEST)

Krosus - Heroic Nighthold
15:00 PDT (18:00 EDT, 00:00 CEST)

Tuesday, April 26

Xavius - Heroic Emerald Nightmare
13:30 PDT (16:30 EDT, 22:30 CEST)

Skorpyron - Mythic Nighthold
15:00 PDT (18:00 EDT, 00:00 CEST)

As always, this testing schedule is very fluid and subject to the realities of an alpha environment. We might have to change the time of a testing session, change the boss being tested, or cancel a test entirely, due to bugs, server hardware issues, etc. Keep an eye on this forum for the latest information, and thank you in advance for testing and providing feedback.

Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Theorycrafting Questions
Please use this thread to ask questions related to how things work, mechanically (ie, for your theorycrafting projects). We sometimes leave out information that would be important to your modeling, in order to keep things understandable. We'd be happy to clarify any such things, here. Post your questions and we'll do our best to find answers.

Example of the sort of question : What's the proc rate for Agony granting Soul Shards?

This thread is NOT for feedback, discussion of 'why' something is the way it is, what a better mechanic would be, etc. Those topics are great to discuss, and we want to read that feedback, but please post it in different threads. We'll be aggressively pruning this thread as needed to keep it on topic.

There are lots of theorycrafting related replies in this thread. Please see the blue tracker for all the posts. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Secondary Stat Scaling in Legion
That is why we reduced the conversions in this build, as people discovered above. We are going to continue keeping an eye on it, but to answer your question--yes, you will get closer to the "final" values, earlier on, this time. The further gain from increasing ilvls will be much less drastic than in the past. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Feedback Request - Tapping Rules
Because ordinary quests (including dailies, and also you can include here any other types of quests like world quests) cannot be progressed in raid.
How would you feel if you were treated like an ungrouped player when you were in a raid?

When on a quest that requires a unique quest item from a named mob, (Head of XY, Big Slab of Bacon, ...), it occurs very often that the NPC will drop only one of that item.
Amount of people was usually between 2 and 4. So we had to kill him twice or more for everyone to obtain the loot. Being grouped or not does not matter here (we tried both).

This is a bug with the item being collected, please submit a report on the specific item.

Is the tapping system supposed to work with old world content too or just the new Legion areas?
All outdoor areas. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Broken Shore Scenario
Many tuning improvements have been made based on your feedback, please give it another shot! (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

New Character Pane Stats Window
And in the end, if they provide an "advanced view" with everything, at least it is there as an option.
We're not planning to offer alternative views, but all of the information in the old character sheet will be available in the API.

Tertiary stats will appear on the sheet if you have them on your items. We're also adding a teeny bit more information about the contribution from weapons. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Legion Class Feedback
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Death Knight (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
Blood Death Knight Feedback -- Build 21531 -- 21-Apr
Death Strike is not moving back to costing Runes. Please advance the discussion to other topics. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Hunter (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
Beast Mastery Hunter Feedback -- Build 21531 -- 21-Apr
Also if somebody calls for a "Stop DPS" a BM Hunter has to unequip their weapon or dismiss their pet in order to even attempt to stop Hati from doing anything which is absolutely rediculous.
I'm unsure if the change made it into this build or not, but Hati will respect the normal pet commands you issue and go passive when you want your pet to stop attacking.

The 2 minute debuff is almost entirely there for PvP reasons and should have almost no effect in PvE. I do relaize Hati's health is currently abnormally low, it will be fixed to be higher than what it currently is. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Monk (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
Mistweaver Monk Feedback -- Build 21531 -- 21-Apr
It wouldn't be surprising if the mastery has to come down a little, in terms of coefficient, after the EF change (what you'd expect for effectively increasing the number of spells affected by a mastery). It would also rein in the mastery benefit to Effuse somewhat. It's not bad at all if the new mechanic introduces some more varied use cases for Effuse, but its tuning implications for will be a little clearer after seeing it in action more. Essence Font enabling those options is fine, but it's important that mana is an important limitation on its uptime.

Effuse cost is already changed for next build, although not by much for now. We like the new mechanic, but Effuse, EF, and Gust of Mists are all pieces of the tuning picture that may shift around as it settles in. The nerf to mastery coefficient is simply to account for the fact that it now encompasses more spells, as would happen with any mastery. In fact, spreading the mastery benefit out slightly is something people have asked for. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Paladin (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
Retribution Paladin Feedback -- Build 21531 -- 21-Apr
Some response on the intention with the Mastery for AoE would be appreciated. We've been asking for this for a while - it doesn't matter when changes are actually made, but some insight into the thought process would be more productive. Hard to give feedback on something that's clearly not working as it will when Legion goes live but it would be possible if we knew what your red lines and design philosophies were. Having the judgment debuff be a buff on the player would solve the issue completely and doesn't go against any stated design philosophies, so there must be something not being said that's the issue.
It's intended that Mastery is a single-target DPS stat for Retribution Paladins, but that the Greater Judgment talent can extend that to AoE. It will be tuned to account for that. This is certainly not the first time that different stats have had wildly different values in different situations, and that's OK.

So we are going with the Clarity of Power route. Glad that's finally been cleared up. Anything to say for Zeal, a talent that's located on the same tier and literally doing the same thing as Greater Judgment (AoE)?
It's worth noting that Fires of Justice does the same thing too. You generate holy power faster and therefore cast more divine storms than you otherwise would. Different damage talents will perform a bit differently in different situations, but in this case none of them are actually purely single-target or AE. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Holy Paladin Feedback -- Build 21531 -- 21-Apr
There are some additional upcoming changes to Holy Paladin talents that did not make it into this build. Next build, we will be trying out 3 new talents, with the intention of giving more options to increase average complexity on Holy, and allowing for certain gameplay elements the class has had in the past (such as timing multiple independent cooldowns).

1) Holy Bolt talent replaced with:
Bestow Faith: Instant, 12s cooldown, costs 6% mana. After 5 seconds, your target is healed for 450%*SP.

2) Sanctified Wrath moved to level 90 to replace Daybreak. Sanctified Wrath’s old slot on level 75 replaced with:
Holy Avenger: Instant, 90s cooldown. Increases your Haste and Holy Shock healing by 30%, for 20sec.

3) Stoicism replaced with:
Fervent Martyr: Passive. Casting Holy Light or Flash of Light on your Beacon of Light reduces the mana cost of your next Light of the Martyr by 35%, stacking up to 3 times.

Thanks!

We discussed both versions of Fervent Martyr (reduces health cost and reduces mana cost). The health cost version is more comforting in a way--you get to ignore the obvious visible downside of Light of the Martyr. That's why we decided we liked it less. Removing LotM's mana cost makes it a very strong and efficient cast to add to your rotation, but you still have to engage with the distinctive mechanic of the spell. If you want to avoid dealing with the downside of LotM, this talent doesn't help you, but if you want to improve its value and potential, it does.

We don't want Bestow Faith to be no-cooldown because that would give Holy a second no-cooldown spammable instant (we explicitly don't want gameplay akin to Rejuv here). A shorter cooldown might be an option for more flexibility and to not be so similar to Holy Shock's cadence, with mana being a more relevant limiter. But this version lets the efficiency and impact be higher when it's used well.

I can see a valid problem with Fervent Martyr being that HL/FoL on Beacon is too infrequent of a trigger (which would be an issue regardless of what the reward was). But, it is okay if the strength of the talent comes out in dungeons or heavy tank healing situations, as SW and JoL are are both solid in normal raid healing. The talent is ultimately similarly tuned whether the cost is health or mana (they're roughly equally important parts of the cost). The mana cost of LotM, while low, is high enough that reclaiming 1/3 of it on each HL/FoL is a significant refund. For example, it effectively reduces the cost of HL-on-tank by 30% and an FoL-on-tank by 22%--very substantial efficiency gains in scenarios where you are healing a tank often. Reducing the health cost would be a more viscerally felt and easily visible reward, to be sure, but we felt keeping the inherent tradeoff of LotM intact was worth setting up the talent primarily as an efficiency reward for people who use it.

With old Stoicism out, we are also going to try a lower health cost on LotM next build.

Have you considered a %current health for a LotM cost? I really would like to not kill myself when I accidentally crit which could happen frequently given how much we value crit.
When LotM's self-damage did not depend on the healing done, that wound up making the strength of the spell rely too much on crit/mastery scaling. And, the damage from each LotM cast is a small % of total health--if the possibility of a crit means you must avoid using the spell below 20% health even if you want to, that's totally fine. You should feel like it's a risk, that you probably want to avoid, to cast it when you're that low.

It's also likely that Paladins aren't very constrained by mana right now compared to everyone else, but we haven't gone through and made more tuning changes yet.

But, yes, we agree--you'd probably never cast LotM when you're below 20% health (you probably wouldn't do that regardless of the crit situation), and that's how it should be. But if you're at 100% and have a tank getting burst, or want to move while some raid members are low, it can easily be chosen over Flash or Light.

The other option for mana is to simply keep Flash of Light being our mana dump, which I am personally fine with. Increase the base healing of Flash of Light and the mana cost a bit to differentiate it from Holy Light.
This is something that's a definite possibility as we look at tuning more--we understand the differentiation between these two may be too low. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Priest (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
Holy Priest Feedback -- Build 21531 -- 21-Apr
I'm not sure the "overheal" argument about Apotheosis is convincing. It's not dramatically more of a healing burst than many cooldowns healers find good use for (e.g. Avenging Wrath, and certainly not Tranquility). There should be ample situations where casting 3 or 4 Serenities or Sanctifies in a 30s period is easy to do effectively. When there aren't, when damage is too flat to make an extra cooldown attractive, CoH and Benediction will fit very well.

We do understand that the cooldown is causing you to cast many more spells without increasing their efficiency (other than the gain from working in a few Holy Words, which are more efficient than normal spells). That's can a dubious benefit in a world where mana is more important limitation. In an upcoming build we're going to try having Apotheosis reduce the cost of Holy Words while it's active.

Activated Spirit of Redemption is not likely to be a good talent for PvE. Its main benefits are 1) mana-free casting (not that unique, and would have to be on the power level of something like Mana Tea) and 2) total immunity to everything (something that usually causes complications PvE context). (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Discipline Priest Feedback -- Build 21531 -- 21-Apr
purge the wicked now procs power of the dark side, hooray!

You fixed Power of the Dark Side and Purge the Wicked... what am I supposed to complain about now?
I couldn't deprive you of the excitement of discovering this on your own when the build went out.

It looks like something may be off with Shadowfiend, but in general, the existing bugs that we knew of with Atonement and level scaling should be fixed--please let us know if you see any more issues.

Those situations are relatively rare, and spells like Shadow Mend are perfectly serviceable, if suboptimal (sometimes hardly even suboptimal) ways to get through them. Talents like Penitent, Grace, and CoW can also help a great deal when it comes up.

There's nothing wrong with choosing talents to suit that situation--that's the sort of thing we want to be happening with talents.

Purge still doesn't bounce as it's supposed to (now that we know what it's supposed to do). At least in the open world. I'm adding some mobs with halo, they all stack up and Purge doesn't get spread sometimes.

Next build, PtW should correctly jump to targets that are behind you. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Rogue (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
Phantom Assassin Bug
Agreed. Not intended for Symbols of Death to cost Energy when applied through Phantom Assassin. Fixed in an upcoming build.
It's still not fixed.
With Shadow Dance, or stealth in general? Seems like I forgot to fix it on the stealth side. But should be fine with Shadow Dance. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Shaman (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
Restoration Shaman Feedback -- Build 21531 -- 21-Apr
Just wanted to put here that last night in dungeons with a Demo Warlock, my Gift of the Queen was frequently healing exclusively Imps instead of players.
Thanks--we'll make sure it gets standard smart heal targeting.

Gift of the Queen not castable while moving during Spiritwalker's Grace, intended?
Fixed for next build. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Warcraft Movie Panel
There was a Warcraft movie panel at PAX today, and Robert Kazinsky got ahead of some of the complaining on the forum.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Order Hall Upgrades, Warcraft Movie, Artifact Knowledge, Raid Testing, Blue Posts started by chaud View original post
Comments 93 Comments
  1. Al Gorefiend's Avatar
    These Order halls are having me really excited, the next step of Blizzard's Garrison evolution.
  1. PragmaticGamer's Avatar
    I see those tiers for the Order Hall, and it makes me glad that I'm delaying at least three months in re-subbing.

    I will want to get a thorough analysis of the pros/cons of each choice before deciding, because that's weeks of work that can be wiped out if I select the one that doesn't suit me.
  1. Sentynel's Avatar
    So they implement World Quests to keep players busy and they add a spell (ability/trait/talent/whatever) that instantly completes World Quests. Fuck logic. Fuck Blizzard.
  1. melkesjokolade's Avatar
    Seriously, order resources? Fuck this... Atleast we got the movie which looks more and more promising.
  1. mileskg21's Avatar
    already bitching about O.R. typical forum chat
  1. chaud's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Sentynel View Post
    So they implement World Quests to keep players busy and they add a spell (ability/trait/talent/whatever) that instantly completes World Quests. Fuck logic. Fuck Blizzard.
    It has a reasonably long cooldown. There are ~50 or so world quests up at a time.

    edit: And apparently it only works on the smaller quests.
  1. The-Shan's Avatar
    Rob Kazinski spent days in Lions Pride Inn. :^]
  1. Orisai's Avatar
    Excellent recreation of Lion's Pride Inn, but those English posters written in Roman alphabet still don't fit at all within the Warcraft universe.
  1. Justpassing's Avatar
    Dem gating...
  1. Unholyground's Avatar
    That artifact power catch up is a good idea, I plan on playing Blood/Frost, but if frost is not as fun as I hope I will want to go Unholy and this will help.
  1. Khaza-R's Avatar
    Set design looks great. But the armor/weapons and casting leave so much to be desired.
  1. Turaska's Avatar
    Order Halls... AKA Garrison 2.0, well done Blizzard, give us something no one really liked in a different form.
  1. zekobunny's Avatar
    So Order Halls (garrisons) are mandatory for player power (legendaries)... And you would think Blizard would learn from WoD... Also I see many more good benefits that Order Hall gives thus, so far it seems 100% mandatory for any basic raider... Also, Broken Isles just seem like one big Tanaan Jungle. Grind areas for currency rewards > go back to your order hall to start work order > grind more... Is there anything that is actually fun to do outside raiding? I really hope proffesions are way more fun than in WoD.
  1. mmoc858eb321b1's Avatar
    evry time new upgrade comes on mmo i lose more hope in Legion...Prune..and Garrison 2.0 is aids for this game
  1. Arkaan's Avatar
    I hate time-gated stuff like this. That is not content. It's a way to artificially drag out content. This is Garrison 2.0 in the fullest, the only thing it's missing is profession stuff and you can't get the AH. Other than that there are Hall upgrades, followers, daily quests, world quests, etc. This just reinforces the "Wait and see" attitude of Legion by a month or two rather than buying in right away like I have every expansion since TBC.
  1. klaghatagh's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Sentynel View Post
    So they implement World Quests to keep players busy and they add a spell (ability/trait/talent/whatever) that instantly completes World Quests. Fuck logic. Fuck Blizzard.
    Long CD, works on a small collection of quests, and you can pick the other thing that tier if its presence so offends you.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by zekobunny View Post
    So Order Halls (garrisons) are mandatory for player power (legendaries)... And you would think Blizard would learn from WoD... Also I see many more good benefits that Order Hall gives thus, so far it seems 100% mandatory for any basic raider... Also, Broken Isles just seem like one big Tanaan Jungle. Grind areas for currency rewards > go back to your order hall to start work order > grind more... Is there anything that is actually fun to do outside raiding? I really hope proffesions are way more fun than in WoD.
    Watcher said, in another blue post, that the only thing required for the legendary upgrade was Order Hall Resources which are earned from doing things out in the world. You don't have to do any of the Garrison 2.0 missions to do it: just grind dungeons or do dailies and whatever and get your resources.
  1. Cæli's Avatar
    Looks like they are bringing back the class specs old talent tree backgrounds. This is right and awesome.
  1. GMZohar1's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Thadeka View Post
    evry time new upgrade comes on mmo i lose more hope in Legion...Prune..and Garrison 2.0 is aids for this game
    Same here for real.. Every single time, new info comes out it gets worse and worse and worse.. Adding to all that with each new build my classes I like to play get weaker and weaker and weaker lol... It's a good thing I haven't got the game yet cause I might not get it at all
  1. kamuimac's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by zekobunny View Post
    So Order Halls (garrisons) are mandatory for player power (legendaries)... And you would think Blizard would learn from WoD... Also I see many more good benefits that Order Hall gives thus, so far it seems 100% mandatory for any basic raider... Also, Broken Isles just seem like one big Tanaan Jungle. Grind areas for currency rewards > go back to your order hall to start work order > grind more... Is there anything that is actually fun to do outside raiding? I really hope proffesions are way more fun than in WoD.
    there is no world content in WoD casuals whine raiders are happy , there is ton of casual content in legion raiders whine because they cant enjoy only logging in for raid hours" well tough luck get ready for some major grinding in legion or admit you are as casual scrub as casuals not just some pretended-hardcore.
  1. MWhite's Avatar
    Yes waste your time on a forum writing about a game you don't play anymore, if you don't like the changes, don't play Legion, we wont miss you!

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