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Warcraft Movie PAX East Trailer
An exclusive Warcraft trailer was shown at PAX. Unfortunately this is the best quality currently available.



Warcraft Movie PAX East Panel
Duncan Jones and Robert Kazinsky were at PAX east to talk about the Warcraft movie. They also had a short segment on Facebook afterwards.

  • Kazinsky played Alliance for a long time, but switched to Horde once he started raiding hardcore.
  • Ben Foster was interested in spell casting and the team came up with a visual and audio language for spell casting. He was really committed to getting all of the details right.
  • There was a month long Orc camp where the actors learned how to move like seven foot tall six-hundred pound Orcs.
  • The team went to ILM for visual effects early on, meeting with Jeff White. He had moved the technology forward for the Hulk in the first Avengers movie and is a big Warcraft fan that was excited to do the movie.
  • It took several weeks after shooting to get the first Orgrim shot with effects. Up until then the team was very nervous about how good the Orcs would look.
  • After the team saw the first shot with Orcs, they were relieved at how great they looked and did more close up shots.
  • The team was halfway through filming the movie before they realized Orgrim doesn't fight much in the movie. The team then just filmed a bunch of fight sequences, including one where Orgrim hits another Orc with the Doomhammer in the stomach, lifts him up above his head, and drops him into his head to knock him out.
  • The person who came up with the Orc language for the movie is also the person who does languages for Game of Thrones and happens to be a Warcraft player. There are a few key scenes in the movie where the Orc language is used in an interesting way and where fans will recognize some of the phrases.
  • Ramin Djawadi did the Game of Thrones theme as well as music in the Warcraft movie. It is different than the Game of Thrones music, incorporating some of the Warcraft game music in some places where it made sense as well as new material.
  • Fans of Warcraft will feel like they have gone home when they see the movie.
  • Kazinsky plays an Orc Death Knight, he has been researching for his role for years! He didn't have to correct people on set about how the Warcraft universe worked, as everyone working on the movie did a great job.
  • Motion capture is now good enough to show all of Orgrim's emotion.
  • Clancy Brown rides a frostwolf in the movie. During filming he rode up on a little blue rocking horse, pulled by three crew members and that scene took a long time to film because of how funny it looked without effects.
  • When Duncan Jones heard that the previous director had moved on, he asked to read the script. He recognized that Human heroes vs Orc villains was not the right way to do the movie. He pitched his idea to Legendary and then to Blizzard, showing heroes on both sides, half Human and half Orc.
  • The audience spends a good amount of time with the Orcs, so he had to use CGI rather than latex prosthetics. To offset all of the character CGI, lots of real sets were used.
  • In the movie Orgrim has the Doomhammer and uses it as a hammer as a Warrior, so there is a little bit of bending of how the game works.
  • If this movie does well and Duncan Jones gets to do a sequel, he will be able to put Tauren in it. After that he could do Illidan, Arthas, and all of the other story if the movies do well.
  • No matter when you started playing Warcraft, or even if you haven't, everyone will be able to enjoy the movie.
  • There are moments where the movie differs from the lore in smaller ways to make it a better movie.
  • Duncan Jones tried to fit in extra material and easter eggs that would fill out the Warcraft experience for fans in a way that wouldn't distract from the story.
  • The team worked with Wei Wang to do art for the movie.
  • There are only a few scenes in the movie where the Orcs and Humans are in the same scene.



Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
World Quest Difficulty
While this will change over the course of the expansion pack as you gain power, the tuning values we're currently shooting for are:

Normal World Quests: 1+ player(s)
Rare World Quests (blue, no dragon): 2-3+ player(s)
Rare Elite World Quests (blue, dragon): 3-5+ player(s)
Epic Elite World Quests (purple, dragon): 5-10+ player(s)

Some content will be easier or harder within each difficulty band, this is intended. We would like the outdoor endgame to have challenge peaks and valleys. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Order Hall Upgrade - Instant World Quest Completion
I"m trying to be supportive, I really am.

But looking at this image from MMO showing Order Hall upgrades with an option to "instantly complete" a world quest just blows my mind.

Wasn't this one of the biggest problems with Garrisons? Sending followers out to do things while we just clicked a garrison mission table?

How is this different? Why do we need "instant completion" of content that is designed for us to actually egage in? Don't you see that you are neutralizing your own content again and removing the need to go out into the world and complete things?

Currently this ability only works on a small amount of World Quests - those akin to a daily quest. Does not work on dungeons, rare elites, bosses, etc.

With that in mind, continued feedback is welcome! (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
World Quests
Will reason be provided as to why our characters will do them? Like, how do they know things are going on on the map?
Quest text will be given to you via a Talking Head when you start/finish the quest, and are tied to the zone's quest story. (Muffinus)

will the World Quests involve filling up bars, or will they have actual objectives?
Both, more the latter than the former as bars tend to not tell as interesting stories as doing individual things. (Muffinus)

Order Halls
Jeremy, you're one of the few communicators so I'm reaching out. This Legion mission table scares me, despite Ion's comments.
it's definitely one of those things that could be super contentious/not fun, we think it's improved, please give us feedback! (Muffinus)

PvE
M Nythendra thread is clustered, but can you maybe change the colors of the rot pulls? Blend in a bit too well.
Thanks - "red-on-red-on-red" concerns are definitely something that's on the radar. (WatcherDev)

Have you seen this thread? Some wonderful affix ideas here! https://t.co/NccZXrftIf
I have! Fun thread. (WatcherDev)

The Broken Shore in the Alpha will require 20 people correct? Since it was announced 20/20.
1-20 (Muffinus)

Is Broken Shore part of the pre-patch/event or is it the Tanaan Intro type for whenever 7.0 launches?
Both. During pre-launch, it kicks off the Legion invasions. Post-launch, it sets the story for heading to new Dalaran. (Muffinus)

PvP
Oh, and World PvP objectives are a part of World Quests? YESSS, love it. Just hope it won't be queued or phased.
.Most of them are open FFA arenas, sometimes involving riding a goat. Embrace the world PvP! (Muffinus)
For those of us who hate PvP more than GC hated Paladins, I assume the PvP objectives are fully optional?
Both PvEvP (PvE that flags you) and full PvP objectives will be available. Both grant honor. (Muffinus)
(PvE that flags you) if it flags us for pvp it isnt a PVE objective.is it?
This is an attempt at "PvEvP," similar to assaulting an NPC-controlled Wintergrasp tower. (Muffinus)
We will be monitoring feedback closely! (Muffinus)

Reputation
That's not my question. Can I complete all reputation besides the inevitable PvP one with just pure PvE quests?
Yes (there is currently no PvP reputation). (Muffinus)

Ghostcrawler Tweets
Ghostcrawler still occasionally talks about WoW. Remember that he no longer works for or speaks for Blizzard.
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Hey Greg, love your work. What do you think of the Vanilla wow server shutdown?
I feel bad for players who lost something, but I have faith in Blizzard's judgment too. (OccupyGStreet)



Overwatch Comic
An Overwatch comic has been released!



Warcraft Movie - Draka Poster
Another character poster has been shared on Twitter.



Warcraft Movie - Stormwind Mailbox
Duncan Jones shared another picture of the set on Twitter.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Warcraft Movie PAX East Panel, Blue Posts, Tweets, Overwatch Comic, Draka Poster started by chaud View original post
Comments 82 Comments
  1. LongJohn's Avatar
    after watching that trailer with that lady talking makes me embarrassed that I play WoW. I can only imagine what that lady looks like.
  1. mmoc0a96d1cf0b's Avatar
    Kazinsky plays an Orc Death Knight, he has been researching for his role for years! He didn't have to correct people on set about how the Warcraft universe worked, as everyone working on the movie did a great job.

    I didn't think Death knights were around during the time the movie takes place?
  1. Fasolina's Avatar
    I'd almost forgive anything the movie did if they had a brief shot of someone on a horse trying to get on top of the mailbox in the background.
  1. Eleccybubb's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Applecrayon View Post
    Kazinsky plays an Orc Death Knight, he has been researching for his role for years! He didn't have to correct people on set about how the Warcraft universe worked, as everyone working on the movie did a great job.

    I didn't think Death knights were around during the time the movie takes place?
    The game. Not the movie. Kazinsky plays Orgrim Doomhammer in the movie.
  1. Shudder's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    Didn't you also say Legion was going to be delayed and to say we told you so when it wasn't. Or was that about the movie?
    I did say it was delayed. 14 months of no content is delayed. Not having the beta out by 2016 is delayed. I also think it will have to cut a bunch to make the August date. As for the movie, you're welcome to say I told you so but odds are on my side with this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applecrayon View Post
    Kazinsky plays an Orc Death Knight, he has been researching for his role for years! He didn't have to correct people on set about how the Warcraft universe worked, as everyone working on the movie did a great job.

    I didn't think Death knights were around during the time the movie takes place?
    I bet he's an LFR hero. Probably top dps in LFR and tells people he's hardcore.
  1. Eleccybubb's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    I did say it was delayed. 14 months of no content is delayed. Not having the beta out by 2016 is delayed. I also think it will have to cut a bunch to make the August date. As for the movie, you're welcome to say I told you so but odds are on my side with this one.
    Nah was just curious on which one you said. I remember saying you said one but tbh I doubt the movie is gonna do well despite the big budget and franchise. I hope people who want to see it enjoy it but well track record most video game movies ain't been a success. FF Spirits Within, Doom, Advent Children to name some. One I know off the top of my head that has is Resident Evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    I did say it was delayed. 14 months of no content is delayed. Not having the beta out by 2016 is delayed. I also think it will have to cut a bunch to make the August date. As for the movie, you're welcome to say I told you so but odds are on my side with this one.

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    I bet he's an LFR hero. Probably top dps in LFR and tells people he's hardcore.
    No silly Shudder that's hunters like me!
  1. Shudder's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    Nah was just curious on which one you said. I remember saying you said one but tbh I doubt the movie is gonna do well despite the big budget and franchise. I hope people who want to see it enjoy it but well track record most video game movies ain't been a success. FF Spirits Within, Doom, Advent Children to name some. One I know off the top of my head that has is Resident Evil.

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    No silly Shudder that's hunters like me!
    I can't really think of a game that might make a good movie. Maybe Last of Us or Mass Effect if done right. Witcher series maybe.
  1. Eleccybubb's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    I can't really think of a game that might make a good movie. Maybe Last of Us or Mass Effect if done right. Witcher series maybe.
    Last of Us I think would be fucking awesome if they made a movie. The story has such potential. Witcher should be a TV series imo.
  1. Kellorion's Avatar
    I really want to punch that woman in the back of head.
  1. glowpipe's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Butger View Post
    Well, it's an MMO, right...
    When i play its an MMme.
    Yes. it is an mmo. But its always a hassle getting into world boss groups. Say you are in the dungeon queue. You need to leave it to join for a kill that takes maybe 2-3 min. That sorta sucks. Instead of just joining in and go pewpew on the tag.
  1. Wayne25uk's Avatar
    I edited the front page a bit.

    Fans of Warcraft will have gone home when they first see the movie.

    Also that crazy woman behind the camera needs either a slap/punch/penis. Silence spells were invented for her.
  1. Nightstalker's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Faroth View Post
    For all of Jones' talk of 50% orcs and 50% humans, it sure seems like the orcs are the only thing this movie wants to show or talk about.

    New trailer they showed there did look better than the previous ones, though.
    The Orcs are (imo good) CGI, so they might wanna do a little show off here and there. And Robert Kazinsky plays Doomhammer.
  1. Zulkhan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Faroth View Post
    For all of Jones' talk of 50% orcs and 50% humans, it sure seems like the orcs are the only thing this movie wants to show or talk about.
    I don't know why people are surprised by this. It doesn't matter if the movie will effectively treat humans and orcs on par, when it comes to talk about the movie the orcs are blatantly going to attract most of the attention, be it for the CGI and tech behind them, all the work the actors needed to interpret them and the mere fact that orcs like these were never seen by most people. About humans you can only talk about their armors and weapons, which normally ends up with someone screaming "LOOKS PLASTIC" and that's it.

    Quote Originally Posted by quras View Post
    Right there along with trailers.

    50% human and 50% orcs my ass. It's been more orcs than anything and I'd almost bet my account it stays that way.

    This quote is where they really lost me.

    "There are moments where the movie differs from the lore in smaller ways to make it a better movie."

    Yes, Lets change some lore so we can make a "so called" better movie. As if that hasn't "F"Ed up nearly all video game to movies attempts. Stick to what hooked people in the first place. Not some garbage lore changes so they don't have to show demon blood being drank because that puts the orcs in a bad light or dalaran that shouldn't be flying but is because it looks cool. And those are just 2 off the top of my head. You can bet there are plenty more.

    It's not wonder people are hesitant about this game to movie attempt.
    I'm always glad to see a post of yours quras. The hilarity is never fails to amuse me.
  1. Zarc's Avatar
    I was so hyped for this movie. But that woman being so excessively excited over it suddenly made me feel very anti-hyped towards it. Thankfully that'll probably have passed by tomorrow.
  1. Shampro's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Zarc View Post
    I was so hyped for this movie. But that woman being so excessively excited over it suddenly made me feel very anti-hyped towards it. Thankfully that'll probably have passed by tomorrow.
    What the shit. How does that make any sense.
  1. Tekkommo's Avatar
    Trailer ruined by that women talking stupid.
  1. quras's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Zulkhan View Post
    SNIP..
    I'm always glad to see a post of yours quras. The hilarity is never fails to amuse me.
    I'm glad I can add one more loyal follower to my list. Thanks.

    I fear this movie wont hold true to the warcraft lore fans got hooked on because they feel things had to change just for a movie or some BS "oh this would look great in a movie if we change things." Some movie douche will think it doesn't matter but in reality it does.

    Which is usually one major reason most video game to movies don't do well.

    I get that same vibe from this movie.
  1. Gadzooks's Avatar
    Okay, finally, THAT was a decent trailer. It's almost like the marketing department at Universal has read the threads here and took notes: More actual combat between orcs and humans, not just one guy, more dwarves and IRONFORGE, classical music that fits the theme, etc.

    Still with the glib, flippant responses from humans, and deep, philosophizing from the orcs. I still don't get the premise - they invade Azeroth for reasons, start a war to claim the land...and then want to stop a war they started...because babies. Not very orc like, if you ask me.

    But, as trailers go, much, much better. Now, if they can redo all the lame posters...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applecrayon View Post
    Kazinsky plays an Orc Death Knight, he has been researching for his role for years! He didn't have to correct people on set about how the Warcraft universe worked, as everyone working on the movie did a great job.

    I didn't think Death knights were around during the time the movie takes place?
    First, like it's been said already - he plays one in the game, not the movie.

    The first Death Knights will be created at the end of the First War - but since the movie isn't following the game lore (They're 'escaping" a dying Dreanor, not being sent by Gul'Dan to invade and conquer, and Azeroth betrayed by a comatose Medivh) who knows?
  1. mmoc7fc23bbf2a's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    I did say it was delayed. 14 months of no content is delayed. Not having the beta out by 2016 is delayed. I also think it will have to cut a bunch to make the August date. As for the movie, you're welcome to say I told you so but odds are on my side with this one.

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    I bet he's an LFR hero. Probably top dps in LFR and tells people he's hardcore.
    Who knows? Could be? If I remember correctly he once said on-stage that he got the Celestial Defender (Realm First Algalon) and Grand Crusader titles, which were WotLK stuff. Seeing how OP DK's were back then and him (I think) having played one since then... makes kinda sense?
  1. Mhyroth's Avatar
    THAT is what they call a trailer !

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