Legion Developer Q&A - Demon Hunters
Today was the Demon Hunters Q&A with Senior Game Designer Jonathan LeCraft. The next Q&A will be after Legion launch. Also keep an eye on Gamescom!

Demon Hunters will release August 9th, along with Demon Invasions.

The broadcast got split into two parts: Part 1 and Part 2

Talent Unlocks
  • Demon Hunters unlock talents as they level to give you something to look forward to as you level.
  • It isn't convenient for the players that are playing during the pre-expansion patch, but it makes sense to do.

Balance
  • Demon Hunters will be missing some power in the pre-expansion patch due to not having their talents.
  • Demon Hunters get a bigger chunk of the stats that players will gain from 100 to 110 earlier on, so that will help to offset the talents.
  • Demon Hunters should be balanced well enough for the short time they are available before Legion.
  • Balance efforts were focused on Level 110.

Pre-Expansion Patch Content
  • You can do the full starting experience and then play the game once Demon Hunters are unlocked.
  • You can do the Broken Shore intro with another character, but not on the Demon Hunter.

Garrison
  • You will be able to start a Garrison with your Demon Hunter.

Professions
  • Demon Hunters will not get any kind of profession boost.
  • You will have time to use your existing materials to level professions during the pre-expansion patch.

Demon Blades
  • Demon Blades gives players access to another playstyle, but you are pressing less buttons.
  • The goal is for it to be the second or third best talent in that tier. The team will do another tuning pass to make sure that this is the case.

Warglaive
  • The Warglaive rewarded in the events leading up to Legion launch will be Bind on Account.

Havoc Survivability
  • The team is going to make sure Havoc is reasonably balanced and is looking at the Level 104 talent tier and PvP talents.
  • Most of the tuning will probably be numbers now, as they are added to the game. Bigger changes are possible in a future patch.

Vengeance Survivability
  • The team will take a look at Vengeance survivability and see if anything needs to be changed.

Lore
  • There is some distrust between the Demon Hunters and the Night Elves.
  • The story between Demon Hunters and Elves will be explored throughout Legion.

Mobility
  • Mobility is probably on par with Monks or a little less right now.
  • There may be some mobility issues in PvP, but most players haven't had a chance to learn to play Demon Hunter yet.

Spectral Sight
  • Spectral Sight lets you see stealth, invisible, and enemies through walls.
  • It lasts 10 seconds, has a 30 sec cooldown, slows you down, and is cancelled upon attacking or being attacked.
  • Some kind of team coordination will be required to make use of it.

Showing Tattoos
  • There is no option to hide your chest for Demon Hunters, but they often have armor that is fairly revealing, so you can show off your tattoos.

Artifact Models
  • Illidan's Warglaives will not be modified.
  • The team has talked about allowing Demon Hunters to use that model somehow in the future. Maybe allowing them to unlock that appearance for transmog.

Communication
  • Demon Hunters can communicate cross-faction with Demonic.

Races
  • There are no immediate plans for other races to become Demon Hunters.
  • Only allowing elves to be Demon Hunters allowed for additional time to be spent on customization and art for Demon Hunters.

Weapons
  • You will be using glaives throughout the expansion, but you can equip other weapon types (Daggers, Fist Weapons, One-Handed Axes, One-Handed Swords).

Animation Cancelling
  • Animation Cancelling being the optimal way to play is not intended.
  • The team is attempting to prevent animation cancelling from giving a DPS increase.

Flying
  • The team talked about allowing Demon Hunters to fly with their wings once flying is enabled, but decided against it.
  • It just doesn't feel right for their kit.
  • Even Illidan doesn't do much flying, just a little hovering.

Glyphs
  • There won't be a glyph to always show Demon Hunter wings. It doesn't look great to have them out all of the time and they don't work with all of the animations.
  • The wings aren't part of your person, they just sprout out in a time of need.

Double Jump
  • Double Jump made the team worry about breaking everything.
  • It isn't such a big deal for bosses, mostly players getting into places they shouldn't be.

Level 70 Character Requirement
  • You will need to have a Level 70 character on the server that you want to make a Demon Hunter on.

Specs
  • There wasn't a good way to give Demon Hunters a third spec.
  • The two specs they have fit with the lore and allowed the team to focus on those two specs a little bit more.

Class Design
  • Sometimes you start by creating the abilities that build and spend resources.
  • You come up with crazy ideas and see if they work with actual gameplay.
  • Double Jump was on the cutting table for a little while and it ended up making it.
  • Major cooldowns like Metamorphosis fit with the lore and class fantasy.
  • The team had lots of Demon Hunters to look at for inspiration.

Skill Cap
  • Demon Hunters are a simpler class so there won't be such a huge gap between the best and worst players.
  • Sometimes there have been huge skill gaps between the best and worst players, such as Feral Druids in WotLK.

Soul Barrier
  • Soul Barrier is like a better version of Soul Cleave
  • Taking Soul Barrier off of the GCD is an easy solution but not one to be used lightly.
  • The team will continue to look at it and see what changes are needed. There are lots of ways to tweak it.

Demon Hunter Weapon Size

Release
  • Demon Hunters will release August 9th, along with Demon Invasions.
This article was originally published in forum thread: Legion Developer Q&A - Demon Hunters started by chaud View original post
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  1. Onikaroshi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ookami.kun View Post
    I was wondering the same thing.

    Please remind me, since it has been about 6 years, but with Death Knights, weren't you only able to create one as long as you had at least one level 70 character on your account? You could also make one on multiple servers, however, it was limited to only a single DK per server? It may just be in my head, but I'm pretty sure the two DKs I have on different servers were made at the same time. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.
    Originally you had to have a 58 (or whatever it was) ON the server, they then lifted that to account wide but still had the 1 dk per server thing in affect, now its FFA on dks but it took a few years.
  1. Shudder's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Soulfròst View Post
    Except no.
    Sorry to hear rotations are too hard for you. If you need any help with how toasters work or any other life advice feel free to pm me.
  1. Eleccybubb's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    Sorry to hear rotations are too hard for you. If you need any help with how toasters work or any other life advice feel free to pm me.
    SHUDDER! How do toasters work?
  1. Ookami.kun's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Droodid View Post
    I think the only thing incorrect here is the level, you just had to have a level 58 at the time to create a DK since they started at 58.
    OK, thanks for that. For some reason I had 70 in my head as you having to have completed BC, but I guess not.

    This makes me wonder what their logic is on limiting you to only having a DH on a server you already have a 70 on. I was wondering if it was because they were afraid of everyone making one, but that doesn't seem right since, more than likely a vast majority of people created a DK (if even just to try out) when they were added in Wrath.

    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    Originally you had to have a 58 (or whatever it was) ON the server, they then lifted that to account wide but still had the 1 dk per server thing in affect, now its FFA on dks but it took a few years.
    Ahhhh, OK, I guess it was in my head then. I remember them lifting the only one per server a few years ago, but don't remember the account wide change. Thanks.
  1. Soulfròst's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    Sorry to hear rotations are too hard for you. If you need any help with how toasters work or any other life advice feel free to pm me.
    Sorry to hear that you think rotations are all that makes a player a good player. Your life must be pretty shallow. It's okay, I'm here for support.

    Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
  1. Droodid's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ookami.kun View Post
    OK, thanks for that. For some reason I had 70 in my head as you having to have completed BC, but I guess not.

    This makes me wonder what their logic is on limiting you to only having a DH on a server you already have a 70 on. I was wondering if it was because they were afraid of everyone making one, but that doesn't seem right since, more than likely a vast majority of people created a DK (if even just to try out) when they were added in Wrath.
    It seems odd to even have a level requirement at all now since when you buy legion you get a boosted level 100.
  1. Eleccybubb's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Soulfròst View Post
    Sorry to hear that you think rotations are all that makes a player a good player. Your life must be pretty shallow. It's okay, I'm here for support.

    Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
    Yeah because a hunter just spamming Cobra shot and not doing the MM rotation for example is so good right?
  1. Al Gorefiend's Avatar
    "No immediate plans to allow DH to other races".

    Realmpop 2017.

    Orc - 9%
    Undead - 7%
    Tauren - 5%
    Troll - 5%
    Blood Elf - 71%
    Goblin - 2%
    Pandaren - 1%

    Keep pretending I'm being over dramatic.
  1. Niroshi's Avatar
    Man...yet another week of dick all but Timewalking to do.

    Really wish they'd just trickle this content out already.
  1. dogdashdos's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by azurrei View Post
    New? no.

    Lots of bug fixes including the damn CRZ nonsense? Hopefully...

    This is actually cool to have a date, TY BLIZZARD! Looks like i'll be screwing around with my 5 free day welcome back to FF14...then heading to DIII S7 from the 5th to the 9th.
    Next week will 100% have the broken shores scenario since the timeline is where you go and check on your leaders then demons start invading the major cities and that will cause the demon hunters to offer help to the alliance and horde factions after that they will be playable and the invasion will be on a larger scale
  1. mikkis2k's Avatar
    "You can do the Broken Shore intro with another character, but not on the Demon Hunter."

    Wtf.. why? does thi mean we have to wait until 30th and lag behind people that did the broken shore event and have to do this event before starting the new content?
  1. Onikaroshi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by dogdashdos View Post
    Next week will 100% have the broken shores scenario since the timeline is where you go and check on your leaders then demons start invading the major cities and that will cause the demon hunters to offer help to the alliance and horde factions after that they will be playable and the invasion will be on a larger scale
    Your 100% gets dashed by someone asking Lore if 9th would include BS and he responded yep

    https://twitter.com/devolore/status/759100910236643328
  1. Soulfròst's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    Yeah because a hunter just spamming Cobra shot and not doing the MM rotation for example is so good right?
    Remind me where I said playing a spec incorrectly means someone is a good player?
  1. Onikaroshi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by mikkis2k View Post
    "You can do the Broken Shore intro with another character, but not on the Demon Hunter."

    Wtf.. why? does thi mean we have to wait until 30th and lag behind people that did the broken shore event and have to do this event before starting the new content?
    They don't do BS AT ALL, like, it happens at the same time they're being released, they never do it.
  1. Soulfròst's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by mikkis2k View Post
    "You can do the Broken Shore intro with another character, but not on the Demon Hunter."

    Wtf.. why? does thi mean we have to wait until 30th and lag behind people that did the broken shore event and have to do this event before starting the new content?
    No. Demon Hunters don't do the Broken Shore scenario at all.
  1. Shudder's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    SHUDDER! How do toasters work?
    Press down the lever AFTER inserting the bread. After is key here.
  1. Kuhnta's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by addlemanc View Post
    Cross faction chat? Is that a first?
    Kind of wish there was a little more.

    Obviously allowing pandas to talk, night elf and tauren, gnome and goblin, human and blood elf, human and undead, just places were it makes a little bit of sense.
  1. Weep's Avatar
    Double Jump made the team worry about breaking everything.
    So wait...do we still get double jump?
  1. Twistedelmo's Avatar
    Waiting for 110 to have all my talents plus wait for Legion to get Soul Carver is such a bad idea... Thats just my opinion I'd rather just unlock talents as progress through the starting zones. But i do like the idea i can't do the broken shore quest line as it would fit into the lore alot better.

    First attack on the Legion fails and we resort to freeing Demon Hunters To aid us.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Weep View Post
    So wait...do we still get double jump?
    Yes, it was just a concern during development.
  1. Soulfròst's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Weep View Post
    So wait...do we still get double jump?
    If you would have kept reading the post, you would have your answer.

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