Raid Tuning and Nighthold Release Date, Prestige Bug

o snap , here we go

Nighthold will hopefully be good. Probably won't bring back my sub tho

Have to hurry to get the Curve achievement in EN !

Well at least now we can get that tier gear to compensate for all the nerfs everything got!

Originally Posted by Pocok

Have to hurry to get the Curve achievement in EN !

Not really, you still have months before it gets removed in 7.2 (Same with Gul'dan).

Originally Posted by The Flavour Cat

Not really, you still have months before it gets removed in 7.2 (Same with Gul'dan).

Cutting edge: Xavius achivement gets removed with the release of nighthold and replace with Cutting Edge: Guldan

Originally Posted by Regalbeast

Nighthold will hopefully be good. Probably won't bring back my sub tho

Kay, thanks for sharing...

Originally Posted by Critizin

Cutting edge: Xavius achivement gets removed with the release of nighthold and replace with Cutting Edge: Guldan

Oh, silly me. I saw the Nighthold one on the PTR a while back and that said before Tomb of Sargeras so I must've thought it was the same for Xavius.

Originally Posted by The Flavour Cat

Not really, you still have months before it gets removed in 7.2 (Same with Gul'dan).

the achievements got changed, they actually state now, That helya is tomb of Sargaras, but Xavius is Still Nightold.

Kill Helya on Heroic Before the Release of The Tomb of Sargeras

http://ptr.wowhead.com/achievement=1...he-curve-helya

Kill Xavius on Heroic Before the Release of the Nighthold.

http://ptr.wowhead.com/achievement=1...e-curve-xavius

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Originally Posted by The Flavour Cat

Oh, silly me. I saw the Nighthold one on the PTR a while back and that said before Tomb of Sargeras so I must've thought it was the same for Xavius.

no u were right. xavius is before nighthold, Helya is before tomb.

So will Helya be tuned for smaller groups or still cancerous?

This could very well be the lowest kill count of a mythic endboss until the next raid tier. Unless of course they end up nerfing Helya mythic before releasing NH. We are a top 100 guild and struggling hard to even get into p3. There is like what, 30 kills on her so far? I personally don't mind the release schedule, but I hope this won't discourage a lot of mythic guilds.

Originally Posted by cszsolt3

This could very well be the lowest kill count of a mythic endboss until the next raid tier. Unless of course they end up nerfing Helya mythic before releasing NH. We are a top 100 guild and struggling hard to even get into p3. There is like what, 30 kills on her so far? I personally don't mind the release schedule, but I hope this won't discourage a lot of mythic guilds.

The announcement just said they are nerfing ToV next week, which one might assume includes Helya, since she is the hardest obstacle by far.

Can you srsly give the artifact knowledge catch up now?! If i have an alt is now, not in 3 or 4 weeks when i have AK15!!!!

"Raid Finder wings and Mythic difficulty will release during the weeks following, which we will share more specific details on at a later time."

The way this is phrased sounds like mythic will be time-gated as well...

Originally Posted by cszsolt3

This could very well be the lowest kill count of a mythic endboss until the next raid tier. Unless of course they end up nerfing Helya mythic before releasing NH. We are a top 100 guild and struggling hard to even get into p3. There is like what, 30 kills on her so far? I personally don't mind the release schedule, but I hope this won't discourage a lot of mythic guilds.

NH is not the next tier - its the FIRST tier. NH was there from the very begining, just not opened until soon. Story-wise speaking, ToV takes place AFTER NH. After release of NH I expect ToV difficulty to drop massively.

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Originally Posted by coprax

"Raid Finder wings and Mythic difficulty will release during the weeks following, which we will share more specific details on at a later time."

The way this is phrased sounds like mythic will be time-gated as well...

That wouldnt be that bad tbh.
First, the top guilds wouldnt be forced to tryhard so much.
Second, they would have enough time to gear up for the final boss, meaning no overtuned encounter and no need for some gimmicks/suspicious tactics.
Third, the whiners wouldnt complain about the content (that they will never complete anyway) is cleared so fast.

They could do something like ICC. New wing each week (if i remember correctly). Ooooh and only 50 tries for the final boss please

Originally Posted by coprax

"Raid Finder wings and Mythic difficulty will release during the weeks following, which we will share more specific details on at a later time."

The way this is phrased sounds like mythic will be time-gated as well...

We can hope. It'd be a huge hit to the value of splitfarming, which I think is a good thing. If Mythic is a few weeks later, you can be a little more patient with Nighthold. Splitfarming will still have value, but it won't feel as important, I think.

Originally Posted by coprax

"Raid Finder wings and Mythic difficulty will release during the weeks following, which we will share more specific details on at a later time."

The way this is phrased sounds like mythic will be time-gated as well...

No. It's released the following week just like every raid release.

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Originally Posted by Ezekiah

We can hope. It'd be a huge hit to the value of splitfarming, which I think is a good thing. If Mythic is a few weeks later, you can be a little more patient with Nighthold. Splitfarming will still have value, but it won't feel as important, I think.

If tier is involved, guilds will split it.

Originally Posted by Deavane

No. It's released the following week just like every raid release.

They didnt explicitely say it this time.

Originally Posted by UcanDoSht

They didnt explicitely say it this time.

Never change a running system.

Originally Posted by keymil

Story-wise speaking, ToV takes place AFTER NH.

I'm not sure where you got this. That the Nighthold raid was designed before the ToV raid doesn't mean that it takes place earlier in the lore. Heck, Nighthold the raid was finished before the Suramar content leading in to taking over the city and entering the Nighthold.