Raid Tuning and Nighthold Release Date
In the recent Q&A, it was mentioned that the next Q&A would be around Patch 7.1.5 release, maybe in the first couple of weeks of January. Patch 7.1.5 and Nighthold release dates are independent of each other.
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
As the holidays approach, we wanted to take a chance to share some information on an upcoming raid tuning adjustment as well as the release date for Nighthold.

Trial of Valor will see a set of tuning adjustments next week, focused mainly on Heroic and Mythic difficulty, which should help groups overcome the challenges of the Trial as they prepare for Nighthold.

Which brings us to the release date for Nighthold itself: We are aiming to unlock Normal and Heroic Nighthold on January 17, 2017. Raid Finder wings and Mythic difficulty will release during the weeks following, which we will share more specific details on at a later time.

We look forward to seeing you in the Nighthold!

Prestige Bug
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. There was a bug with players who reached Honor Level 50, Prestige Level 4 where honor earned was still being accumulated past the cap. When the Prestige Level was increased yesterday, the accumulated honor was applied and the character progressed through those new Prestige Levels.

The rewards were legitimately earned through playtime, however, so we won’t be removing them. This bug should be fixed in 7.1.5, so that others in similar situations will earn those rewards immediately, and so that this will not affect future seasons.
This article was originally published in forum thread: Raid Tuning and Nighthold Release Date, Prestige Bug started by chaud View original post
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  1. mmoc9bef67a441's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Critizin View Post
    Cutting edge: Xavius achivement gets removed with the release of nighthold and replace with Cutting Edge: Guldan
    No it doesn't.

    The next tier of content is 7.2
  1. Ezekiah's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Antenora View Post
    No it doesn't.

    The next tier of content is 7.2
    Blizzard just confirmed that cutting edge for Xavius is gone Jan 17
  1. Wildpantz's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by cszsolt3 View Post
    This could very well be the lowest kill count of a mythic endboss until the next raid tier. Unless of course they end up nerfing Helya mythic before releasing NH. We are a top 100 guild and struggling hard to even get into p3. There is like what, 30 kills on her so far? I personally don't mind the release schedule, but I hope this won't discourage a lot of mythic guilds.
    This is still tier 1 even with nighthold. 7.2 tier 2 then 7.3 tier 3
  1. Krazzorx's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by keymil View Post
    NH is not the next tier - its the FIRST tier. NH was there from the very begining, just not opened until soon. Story-wise speaking, ToV takes place AFTER NH. After release of NH I expect ToV difficulty to drop massively.

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    That wouldnt be that bad tbh.
    First, the top guilds wouldnt be forced to tryhard so much.
    Second, they would have enough time to gear up for the final boss, meaning no overtuned encounter and no need for some gimmicks/suspicious tactics.
    Third, the whiners wouldnt complain about the content (that they will never complete anyway) is cleared so fast.

    They could do something like ICC. New wing each week (if i remember correctly). Ooooh and only 50 tries for the final boss please
    It clearly takes place after because we get Illidan's soul from Helya to put in Xera (soul prism of the illidari follow up) to put in his body which Gul'dan has in NH .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildpantz View Post
    This is still tier 1 even with nighthold. 7.2 tier 2 then 7.3 tier 3
    Blizz has many times mentioned they aren't using the player defined "Tier" terms. This is most clearly shown by Xavius aotc going away when NH hits.
  1. Shakou's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Critizin View Post
    Cutting edge: Xavius achivement gets removed with the release of nighthold and replace with Cutting Edge: Guldan
    False, this is all one tier of content. AOTC/Cutting Edger Xavius is not getting removed until 7.2
  1. Eleccybubb's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shakou View Post
    False, this is all one tier of content. AOTC/Cutting Edger Xavius is not getting removed until 7.2
    No it's getting removed with Nighthold.

    https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/...2446734?page=2

    As another note, this means that Cutting Edge: Xavius and Ahead of the Curve: Xavius will become unobtainable with the release of Nighthold on January 17.
  1. Deavane's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by UcanDoSht View Post
    They didnt explicitely say it this time.
    I guess it's possible. Just highly unlikely in my opinion.
  1. Shakou's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Krazzorx View Post
    Blizz has many times mentioned they aren't using the player defined "Tier" terms. This is most clearly shown by Xavius aotc going away when NH hits.
    And this is the part where you're misconstruing PLAYER defined terms with Blizzard defined terms, Emerald Nightmare, Trial of Valor and Nighthold are all ONE raiding tier, not multiple tiers of content.
  1. rykon1459918's Avatar
    got ahead of the curve last night finally, just in time.
  1. mmoc6818f34952's Avatar
    the date was expected pretty much. i assumed january 18, and thats when its out in europe.

    gonna be plast, im sick of EN and ToV.

    if you really want to do well eairly on, get your hands on high ilvl jewelry.
  1. Eleccybubb's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shakou View Post
    And this is the part where you're misconstruing PLAYER defined terms with Blizzard defined terms, Emerald Nightmare, Trial of Valor and Nighthold are all ONE raiding tier, not multiple tiers of content.
    Well according to the source I linked above and stated by a Blue it's going away in Nighthold. So yeah you got till the 17th US and 18th Europe to get your AOTC and Cutting Edge stuff done.
  1. Shakou's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    No it's getting removed with Nighthold.
    You guys are talking straight out of your ass and possibly spreading disinfo on purpose to trick gullible people into buying heroic and mythic Xavius kills.

    Blizzard has stated very clearly that Emerald Nightmare and Nighthold are part of the same raiding tier.
  1. Eleccybubb's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shakou View Post
    You guys are talking out of your ass and possibly spreading disinfo on purpose to rick gullible people into buying heroic and mythic Xavius kills.

    Blizzard has stated very clearly that Emerald Nightmare and Nighthold are part of the same raiding tier.
    I linked you a source that a blue confirmed. Feel free to ignore solid evidence. So again you are the one spreading misinformation. I would happily believe an official confirmation over some random poster on MMO Champion. So you were saying?
  1. britishbubba's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shakou View Post
    You guys are talking straight out of your ass and possibly spreading disinfo on purpose to trick gullible people into buying heroic and mythic Xavius kills.

    Blizzard has stated very clearly that Emerald Nightmare and Nighthold are part of the same raiding tier.
    You might want to read the blue posts before you say people are talking about of their ass.

    https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/...page=2#post-24
  1. mmocfe2bab4c21's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shakou View Post
    And this is the part where you're misconstruing PLAYER defined terms with Blizzard defined terms, Emerald Nightmare, Trial of Valor and Nighthold are all ONE raiding tier, not multiple tiers of content.
    Actually you are the one that seems confused and misinformed. Blizzard does not define raids by tiers. They are all separate and as they stated, the achievement for xavius hc goes away with the release of nighthold. its come to a point where we should stop using tier aswell to be honest
  1. Will's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shakou View Post
    You guys are talking straight out of your ass and possibly spreading disinfo on purpose to trick gullible people into buying heroic and mythic Xavius kills.

    Blizzard has stated very clearly that Emerald Nightmare and Nighthold are part of the same raiding tier.
    Bro, people are literally linking you a blue post confirming curve will be removed when Nighthold hits. Who cares about pendatics and what 'defines' a tier when the literal word from the lion's mouth itself says curve will be going away. So maybe less answering back and more paying attention to what a couple of people are trying to tell you, yes?

    And it kind of makes sense, too. The gear advantage of NH items would defeat the challenge of curve: Xavius.
  1. solidbear's Avatar
    Oh Blizzard.. you never learn do you. Hope we don't get another year long content drought....

    With blizzard's track record... get ready for the long haul boys.
  1. mmocfe2bab4c21's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by solidbear View Post
    Oh Blizzard.. you never learn do you. Hope we don't get another year long content drought....

    With blizzard's track record... get ready for the long haul boys.
    What relation does your post have to this thread?
  1. snackfeat's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shakou View Post
    You guys are talking straight out of your ass and possibly spreading disinfo on purpose to trick gullible people into buying heroic and mythic Xavius kills.

    Blizzard has stated very clearly that Emerald Nightmare and Nighthold are part of the same raiding tier.
    Are you actually retarded? Multiple people have even linked a source of blizzard saying that it's going away when nighthold opens.
  1. Replica's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Regalbeast View Post
    Nighthold will hopefully be good. Probably won't bring back my sub tho
    better post and tell everyone that i'm unsubbed.

    gtfo lol

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