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Winter Veil 2016
The Feast of Winter Veil has returned with some updates!





Blizzard Holiday Activity 2016-2017
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Hey all!

As you are undoubtedly aware, Winter Veil is soon to come to Azeroth, bringing with it a season of good cheer and high spirits, as well as a time where we gather together with those who we hold closest to us - family, friends, and colleagues.

In the same spirit, winter is upon us, and we wanted to take this chance to share some notices on our activity throughout the remainder of the holiday season and on into the New Year.

  • There will be less Blizzard employee activity and engagement across most World of Warcraft forums, especially the PTR forums and General Discussion.
  • There will be reduced activity and engagement on World of Warcraft's social media, particularly notable is WarcraftDevs, which will have reduced activity through to the new year.
  • Customer Support staff will still be hard at work during the holidays - if you need to contact Customer Support for any reason, you will be able to do so through the Blizzard Support site. Please take note that there will still be Support staff monitoring the forums and assisting with moderation, and our Customer Support forums will remain active through the holiday season!

It’s important to note that we will still be going over threads posted during the holidays when we return, so continue to share your thoughts and feedback while we’re away!

We’d like to thank everyone for their understanding as we step away from our keyboards and take time to travel and visit with our loved ones. We look forward to returning after the holidays in 2017, for what looks to be an amazing year for both Blizzard and World of Warcraft.

From all of us here at Blizzard: Happy holidays, happy New Year, and we will see you in 2017!

Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Developer Communication
I think there is still a lot more work to be done to develop a feedback cycle that effectively nurtures constructive discussions.
The "feedback cycle" is one of the hardest things we are working with at the moment. There is just a ton of feedback all the time, and it never ends, so as soon as you, say, send a dev and email and explain the state of the feedback, its probably already changed ten-fold. :P

It's not an instantaneous fix, but more of a long term solution that will take a lot of changes to how we function doing certain processes internally. I think there's some good solutions for this that I'm working with Lore on into the beginning of next year. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Patch 7.1.5 and Nighthold Release Date
They have said before that 7.1.5 and Nighthold release are independent of each other
They are independent of each other.

As another note, this means that Cutting Edge: Xavius and Ahead of the Curve: Xavius will become unobtainable with the release of Nighthold on January 17.

You are still going to release Nighthold with the state of the PTR as it is?
Nighthold =/= 7.1.5

Edit: To clarify a bit, and expand on something I should have mentioned originally - with this I meant the PTR is in flux, and there's a lot of tuning to be done still prior to 7.1.5 and Nighthold's release - but we also don't agree that the state of the PTR is bad. We wouldn't drop a patch with major class changes in the middle of a raid tier, as even we agree that would be silly. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Lore
is Elothir a mortal druid that took shape of a tree? If so, is he a Night Elf or Tauren?
Elothir is an ancient. (Alex_Afrasiabi)

Misc
Should make a permadeath WoW server.... hmmm. (Muffinus)
How about just no way to release, you must be resurrected. It would be fairly permanent if you didn't have living healer friends.
.Either way all of your loot definitely drops on the floor when you die and other people can take it (Muffinus)
Meanwhile, gamers around the world start shaking uncontrollably
.Imagine the race for world first Helya if death was permanent. Hahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhaaaaaaaaaa (Muffinus)
*does dungeon healer afks tank pulls too much, everyone dies* ragequit WoW
But what if there were no dungeons and it was only open world questing... (Muffinus)
sounds like vanilla when I had no one else to play with lol
The true vanilla experience is getting owned repeatedly in STV until you cry (Muffinus)
I know you're mostly kidding, but I always thought an official Iron-Man-Challenge mode would be cool to have.
Until a 65 PKs your 30 and you have a sad/forum thread. Do the kids still say PK? What do you say? (Muffinus)
This article was originally published in forum thread: Winter Veil 2016, Blizzard Holiday Activity, Developer Communication, Blue Tweets started by chaud View original post
Comments 39 Comments
  1. derpkitteh's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Cobrakai View Post
    or you could just do the mythic instead of waiting for them to fix something they dont really need to fix. one of those things will happen before the other.
    no, i shouldn't have to, because it shouldn't be a thing. it was a stupid, idiotic idea and deserves mockery.

    whatever idiot thought it up needs to get shitcanned.
  1. shadowmatrix's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    the red hat is stuck behind a mythic dungeon? did they fucking forget that they haven't added the heroic modes of those yet?

    way to go.
    Is it only there or is it added there along with all the previous bosses that dropped it?
  1. Super Kami Dende's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by envenger View Post
    So is dark souls but people seem to do no death run plenty of times.
    What a stupid comparison.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    how about don't make mythic only dungeons because it's a stupid idea?

    and don't hide shit behind them until you unfuck your fuck up?
    How about finding a group and doing the content?
  1. The Glitch's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel SnackyCakes View Post



    How about finding a group and doing the content?
    How about understanding , that not everyone enjoys the same content, we all play differently, and placing a holiday limited time frame item, behind one small area of the games content, is kinda silly.

    Not a huge problem for me personally, (I haven't touched a mythic dungeon at all, don't care about them so meh) however I do understand that different people, like different things, and play differently from myself.
  1. arcaneshot's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by The Glitch View Post
    How about understanding , that not everyone enjoys the same content, we all play differently, and placing a holiday limited time frame item, behind one small area of the games content, is kinda silly.
    Then you don't need it, do you? You already chose not to do it, so what's silly is complaining that you can't get it when you chose not to get it.
  1. Super Kami Dende's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by The Glitch View Post
    How about understanding , that not everyone enjoys the same content, we all play differently, and placing a holiday limited time frame item, behind one small area of the games content, is kinda silly.
    How is it different from not getting things for not doing PvP or PvE that have limited timeframes? The game is right there, the Item is freely available to you. All you need to do is the content it is within.

    Don't want to do the content, don't receive the reward for it. Basic principle.
  1. The Glitch's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by arcaneshot View Post
    Then you don't need it, do you? You already chose not to do it, so what's silly is complaining that you can't get it when you chose not to get it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel SnackyCakes View Post
    How is it different from not getting things for not doing PvP or PvE that have limited timeframes? The game is right there, the Item is freely available to you. All you need to do is the content it is within.

    Don't want to do the content, don't receive the reward for it. Basic principle.
    Complaining and just understanding something from another's view point aren't the same thing.

    However if this item was only available from the end boss in mythic level only raids, I can imagine there would be people complaining about that too, and the same goes for if it was rewarded purely from winning say 5 arena games or similar.

    My point being, that for a limited time holiday event, I personally do agree that I find it to be rather silly to put it behind a mythic only (non queuable content) dungeon boss, nothing stopping them from putting it on a normal or heroic mode dungeon boss, so that the majority are more likely to be able to get it.

    After all it's just a fun holiday item on a limited time frame.

    Myself personally, like I said, I don't need it, and even if I did, I don't do mythics or even dungeons in general so I just wouldn't bother anyway. However I do see it from others PoV.

    There is no need to really get defensive about it at all, I mean putting it onto a normal or Heroic dungeon boss to give even more players a chance at it, is that going to affect you negatively?

    Just my own thoughts on the matter
  1. Corruptus's Avatar
    Mythic actually is Heroic of this expansion.
  1. Maudib's Avatar
    If Muffinus' responses are indicative of Blizzard fixing communication... well they can just shove this game so far up their asses it winks at them when they brush their teeth. As long as they have this "You think you do, but you don't" attitude... the game is doomed to die a slow and ugly death
  1. Strathaczar's Avatar
    Ok, I cannot be the only one to notice that they upped the item level on the minature Christmas Tree and wondered why. In an Expansion predicated on Artifact weapons, why would anyone use that weapon at all? Am I missing something?
  1. Etain's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Strathaczar View Post
    Ok, I cannot be the only one to notice that they upped the item level on the minature Christmas Tree and wondered why. In an Expansion predicated on Artifact weapons, why would anyone use that weapon at all? Am I missing something?
    One word for you: transmog.
  1. Freestyle80's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by The Glitch View Post
    Complaining and just understanding something from another's view point aren't the same thing.

    However if this item was only available from the end boss in mythic level only raids, I can imagine there would be people complaining about that too, and the same goes for if it was rewarded purely from winning say 5 arena games or similar.

    My point being, that for a limited time holiday event, I personally do agree that I find it to be rather silly to put it behind a mythic only (non queuable content) dungeon boss, nothing stopping them from putting it on a normal or heroic mode dungeon boss, so that the majority are more likely to be able to get it.

    After all it's just a fun holiday item on a limited time frame.

    Myself personally, like I said, I don't need it, and even if I did, I don't do mythics or even dungeons in general so I just wouldn't bother anyway. However I do see it from others PoV.

    There is no need to really get defensive about it at all, I mean putting it onto a normal or Heroic dungeon boss to give even more players a chance at it, is that going to affect you negatively?

    Just my own thoughts on the matter
    Yes it affects me that idiots like u still make this same arguement

    at work u must demand for the same pay as your higher ups because its only fair right? who cares who worked for anything, everyone should just get everything for free
  1. The Glitch's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Freestyle80 View Post
    Yes it affects me that idiots like u still make this same arguement

    at work u must demand for the same pay as your higher ups because its only fair right? who cares who worked for anything, everyone should just get everything for free
    And I am the idiot? Did you read through what you wrote? /rolls eyes.

    Equating work pay to an in game once a year fun holiday event... I'm done haha.

    You gave me a laugh though, thanks for that and have a super Christmas
  1. ImpTaimer's Avatar
    I'm late to the shit show, but I just wanted to repeat the irony of Blizzard.

    http://www.intellicast.com/Local/His...ation=USCA0517
    -Average lowest winter temperature is 40s, record low in 20s
    -Average Snow 0"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irvine,_California
    -Average income $90,585

    Oh boy, sure calls for more vacation time and working less. They sure do start Christmas earlier and earlier each year. /s

    "But what about the people who just work there?"

    I'm sure they could afford to bring their family to CA instead of going away instead.
  1. bornlol's Avatar
    is nobody else pissed off about this snow globe? wtf happened to the hour long gnome transformation machine? why the hell does anyone want to be a gnome in a globe that has the radius of a large mount?
  1. Violent's Avatar
    These sons-a-bitches! They take away ANY bubble from Holy Priest.. But they give them to damn mages??? Which, Fine! Frost Mage used to have a bubble anyway, but why the Hell take it away from Holy Priests.. I just don't get it.
  1. Jueles's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent View Post
    These sons-a-bitches! They take away ANY bubble from Holy Priest.. But they give them to damn mages??? Which, Fine! Frost Mage used to have a bubble anyway, but why the Hell take it away from Holy Priests.. I just don't get it.
    I have played holy priest since vanilla. I miss my shield, instinctively I still reach for it, but alas, it is not there.
  1. DingZinJong's Avatar
    oh Winter Veil
  1. Violent's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Jueles View Post
    I have played holy priest since vanilla. I miss my shield, instinctively I still reach for it, but alas, it is not there.
    Same! And it's always a big disappointment too. Like, "Oh damn, that's right.. I got screwed over this go around."

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