Trial of Valor Adjustments - December 20

wonder if these adjustments will make trial of valor easier to pug

Originally Posted by Adramelch

"Reduced the health of Bilewater Slime, Night Watch Mariner, and Helya by 10% and Grimelord by 15% in the Helya encounter in Trial of Valor on all difficulties."

From the US forums.

This was the last nerf or the upcoming one?

Originally Posted by Mokoshne

wonder if these adjustments will make trial of valor easier to pug

I would say "duh" but maybe that's rude

Originally Posted by Bearygood

This was the last nerf or the upcoming one?

Upcoming. 10char.

Originally Posted by Nuckels

Upcoming. 10char.

That's actually quite nice, I just wish the debuffs were tuned better for smaller groups

quite a big nerf. good for guilds that are desperately struggling with ToV.

Originally Posted by Arcanines

Said the LFR raider who can't even do Normal.-



Odyn: He no longer spawns 5 adds to deal with, we did 10man Heroic Alt run due to not having to raid, we only had 3, which made it a joke. Helya, adds has like 3 million HP and the water bloobs has 2 mil each. We also only had 2 debuffs from what I remember.

We had 3 debuffs on Helya this week with 10 people. They definitely need to fix that, it sucks bringing a third healer just for a dispel. We have no Locks and a Spriest whom can't make all the raids (works away from home occasionally). We're not struggling with much else other than the fact this is forcing us to essentially bring more people in off-specs than we would want, and it sucks for them too since we do that or we don't raid.

I don't think they want "breakpoints" again like in SoO. IIRC you got less stuff with 14 people rather than 15.

They really went there.

Amateur Hour: WoW: Legion Edition

Wauw hey I know an idea : maybe just let it the way it is?
Typical WoW these days, its made for kids.
Stop nerfing everything to the ground and let the game have its shine of diffuculty good god..

Originally Posted by Loqmani

Wauw hey I know an idea : maybe just let it the way it is?
Typical WoW these days, its made for kids.
Stop nerfing everything to the ground and let the game have its shine of diffuculty good god..

Because the rewards were out of sync with the level of challenge it presented. Even with the limited amount of time it takes to complete the available raids, I'm hard pressed to find a reason to do ToV N/H rather than EN on the next higher level of difficulty. Or keystones.

Originally Posted by Halicia

Because the rewards were out of sync with the level of challenge it presented. Even with the limited amount of time it takes to complete the available raids, I'm hard pressed to find a reason to do ToV N/H rather than EN on the next higher level of difficulty. Or keystones.

Big design flaw then once again. It's pretty hilarious how the hardest content gets nerfed fast for the sake of nowadays half decent raiders can clear content.
This game is infested with handholding addons, and on top of that it receives nerfs whenever not more than 50 guilds killed something... I get it they want to prevent burnout and sub loss, that's why the raids and patches are flying out like crazy atm. Hardcore raiding outside the top 10-15 is DEAD.

Originally Posted by Kaito92

wow dude the fuck why is this shit get nerfed again so hard

thats like legitimate concernig, especially after the joke difficulty of night hold

Because clearly people can't do it and we have a new raid coming very soon. No point having a raid harder than Nighthold out that gives zero useful upgrades.

Personally I'd have been fine without the nerfs but they can't keep the debuff numbers the same at low player raids. Sick of running more healers than we actually need just for a dispel.

Why would they nerf it... the difficulty was awesome. Bloody hell blizzard.

Originally Posted by MyndZero

Why would they nerf it... the difficulty was awesome. Bloody hell blizzard.

Because pugs rule the world these days man.

We killed Odyn M last night as a 7/7M guild.
EN was undertuned and ToV overtuned.

proving they knew from day 1 ToV was overtuned to the sky - this is really dick move.

Odyn got ravaged, Guarm dps requirement is trivial (but will still require the same execution with cross-colors) and Helya (the only boss that actually required it) got slightly nerfed. People will still take shadow priests for the mass dispel so it won't change much in that regard, but the reduced explosion dmg is well nerfed imo, p1 was absolutely insane for most guilds.

Originally Posted by MyndZero

Why would they nerf it... the difficulty was awesome. Bloody hell blizzard.

there should be a way to please little casuals m8