Patch 7.2 - Unlocking Artifact Traits, BlizzCon Contests, Tweets, Poll, DLC #576

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Patch 7.2 - Unlocking Artifact Traits
Patch 7.2 brings new Artifact Traits for everyone, along with higher Artifact Knowledge ranks. Unlocking these traits is done by completing a series of quests, with several different versions that depend on your role.

The quest series starts by asking you to unlock all of the traits on your Artifact weapon. After this is done, you head to the Broken Shore to investigate, finding some kind of object. You bring this object back to the Council of Six in Dalaran and then head off on your role's specific quest line.

At the end of the quest line, you return to Dalaran and the Council empowers your Artifact weapon, unlocking the new traits. You can see these new traits in our Artifact Calculator.




BlizzCon 2017 Contests – Mixing Things Up
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker)
Greetings, cosplayers, moviemakers, and artists! BlizzCon 2017 is official, and some of you are already eager to get started on your contest creations—but before you set that creativity to full blast, we just wanted to have a quick chat.

After 10 years of BlizzCon—and 10 years of contests—we’re taking a fresh look at our approach to BlizzCon contests. We’re considering some new approaches to how we handle things, and are taking another look at our contests’ structure and format at the show. Ultimately, our goal is to celebrate and showcase you guys the best way possible.

What does this mean for our contestants, you ask? Right now, nothing. Right now we can tell you the Costume Contest is still incoming, so feel free to start crafting away! In the coming weeks however, we will be announcing a few tweaks, and just wanted to give you all a heads up as soon as possible.

Thank you again for continuing to make BlizzCon so very special with all your incredible talents. It’s all of your who make BlizzCon something we look forward to year after year, and can’t wait to see what you create this year!

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Classes
Any words yet on if hunters is getting more stable slots in 7.2? Or maybe a way to unlock more?
Not in 7.2 (Muffinus)

Art
Can we hope for epicness with Turalyon and a unique model for him ?
you tell us what you think when you see him. My opinion = hell yes! (Alex_Afrasiabi)

Suramar's story might be the BEST WoW's ever been. These characters should definitely remain relevant.
we agree with you! (Alex_Afrasiabi)

PvP
What is the average item level scaled to in PVP War Games? *Tournament mode enabled
In Patch 7.1.5, it's 850.In Patch 7.2, it's 900. (WarcraftDevs)

Ghostcrawler Tweets
Ghostcrawler still occasionally talks about WoW. Remember that he no longer works for or speaks for Blizzard.
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
With that recent tire fire that was that Reddit post, you sure have some thick skin, Ben Brode mentioned that being sorta the face of a game opens you up to brunt of the community’s attacks when people asked why him and Yong Woo didn’t do more designer insights. Do you feel it’s important for a dev to have thick skin when dealing with this stuff.
I don’t think you can be a good game designer if you have thin skin. You have to subject your ideas to the crucible of review, whether that happens internally or after players see your design.

I do think you can be a good game designer if you have thick skin, but don’t have thick enough skin to open yourself up to direct communication with players. Some of my favorite games have been made by people that can barely stand to have a conversation with other humans, let alone open themselves up to the internet.

But if you’re going to go that route, you just have to be really, really good at what you do. You need a purity of vision or an ability to foresee problems that just isn’t that common in developers. I don’t have that. Way back at Ensemble, when we weren’t sure if design A or design B made more sense, I said “Let’s just ask players what they think.”

You don’t have to ask up front. You can launch a feature, monitor the response, and then iterate on that feature. But you have to get that feedback at some point. Lead Champion Designer Riot Scruffy the other day said something like “Even when you’ve really thought about it, tested and iterated, your chance of nailing a great design is about 70%. So you have to be prepared to iterate based on player feedback. You have to leave time for the follow-up work.”

(I also don’t mean to imply that asking players on Reddit or forums is the only way we gather feedback.)

Now, I don’t subscribe to the idea that players should just be able to say whatever the hell they want to, and developers should just suck it up because that’s their job. I value communication, and communication is easier if you treat each other like human beings. But I also recognize that players get emotional or frustrated, and I recognize that the power dynamic between passionate player and developer who just doesn’t get it can exacerbate that frustration.

But there are limits.

I don’t block a lot of players on Twitter, but I do block them. I don’t answer stupidly rude questions, except to make a point of the fact that they aren’t going to actually bring me to tears. Sorry.

I’ve had weird phone calls in the middle of the night. I’ve had death threats. I've had Blizzard security offer to monitor my house. I’ve had designers who had to work with the FBI on threats. I’m also an upper class, straight, white dude, and I know developers who aren’t who have gotten much, much worse from players. There’s no reason for that. We all love games. That already gives us a lot in common.

I try and remind players all the time that your communication is going to be more effective if you’re professional about it, because then you’re actually talking about the problem and not venting about how neglected you feel. If you have a job or go to school, you probably have coworkers or teachers you disagree with that you still have to treat like human beings. Developers deserve the same respect. I know it might score you internet points to attack someone in an over the top matter. You’re better than that. Resist the urge. (Source)



Poll - Un'Goro Madness
Did you you take part in the recent Un'Goro Madness micro-holiday?



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Dark Legacy Comics #576
DLC #576 has been released!

This article was originally published in forum thread: Patch 7.2 - Unlocking Artifact Traits, BlizzCon Contests, Tweets, Poll, DLC #576 started by chaud View original post
Published on 2017-03-19 11:17 PM
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  1. Rotted's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Zanname View Post
    Funny to see statistic for that Un'goro event. I remember even since Wotlk people saying that they play only for fun, not for loot, calling other "loot whores" if they said they went 20th time on raid because of loot, not because its fun. Now if you look on statistic for that event which is only pure fun and totally new (so no 20th time) there is very little people who actually care (although some might simply have missed the event). That is the truth, not people saying pretty words while not being anonymous.
    Honestly, I don't think that's a fair comparison what so ever.

    1) Wrath and raiding, (and for myself currently), I raided for fun, I raided with people that I liked spending time with. The loot was needed to stay relevant, so I can keep playing with them. Every single item I needed in wrath was on a wait list (DKP system), hell even when it was my turn, if we had new raiders with less gear, I'd often give them it, I had my 4 piece bonus, I was next in line for shards for shadowmourne I was happy. Anyways my point being on this one, to keep having fun, you need the loot, they go hand in hand. Don't get loot = Fall behind = Hold team up = Benched

    2) I agree we shouldn't get raid type loot in these micro holidays, but I think it's plain ridiculous to have something ingame, where there's no sort of reward. I really don't care what it could have been, a pet, a mount, a toy to change you into a raptor or even cosmetic items or on use effect items with hilarious effects, think of the ape in the bubble type one.

    Personally, I thought the AQ event was great, if I had my way I'd of re released the black scarab for one person per server and a handful of scarab titles. But even just flying the colours for the year, that was a great little idea.

    So yes, I didn't do it because there was no type of reward, I thought it was pretty pointless, there is so much to do in legion currently, that if you want to introduce things like, you need to given the player base a incentive to do it. Raids? we get loot to show off, exclusive mounts and titles. Timewalking, we get stupidly high gear for stupidly easy content - we also get a cache with rewards us with a 875 + item for doing 5. Everything else in wow has a reward system of some kind, and I don't think theres anything wrong with that. But just because I'm getting a reward for something, doesn't mean it can't be fun.
  1. mmoc2469da80bf's Avatar
    Micro holiday is a very nice thing to add . But most of the wow community wont lift a finger if there is no reward involved .
    Doesn't have to be much , a stupid achievement would add 50% more players involved .
    It really surprises me that blizzard did not know this .
    Are these devs all newbies or just lazy ?
  1. Ogdenir's Avatar
    The micro holidays were implemented as a sneaky way to introduce mob auto scaling. They upscaled the Twilight Cultists during the Silithus event and then never returned them back to original levels, which is what they have done now to Devilsaurs. They will keep having these micro holidays until each old world zone has at lease a mob that auto scales.
  1. Jasper Kazai's Avatar
    The Un'goro event was ok, but I thought some aspects of it were way too reliant on having a healer. If the boss happened to have that poison aoe adaptation, you were guaranteed to die if you didn't have a healer, because it was unavoidable. That's just dumb in this day and age where they facilitate not having to group up. Since there was no real point to doing the event, it shouldn't require grouping up.
  1. mmoc01f05de5bd's Avatar
    Do you know if we can store AP and use it in 7.2?
  1. kidstechno's Avatar
    AP Grinding is a huge problem in the game currently.

    So their fix?

    More traits = more AP grinding.
  1. chaud's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Pablito89 View Post
    Do you know if we can store AP and use it in 7.2?
    Nope, your current Artifact Power items won't work.
  1. FelPlague's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by familiar View Post
    A lot of things changed in Blizzard since then, and the current development team is struggling to came up with fun things to do, that's why everything boils down to mindless grind nowadays.
    i think you missed the point....
    blizz added something that is just fun, no reward, yet no one does it
  1. dankhart's Avatar
    I thought they were getting rid of the 20 point damage boost artifact trait. On the 7.2 artifact calculator that is linked in the post, both the new and the old damage boost traits are there? Is this the new version?
  1. FelPlague's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by kidstechno View Post
    AP Grinding is a huge problem in the game currently.

    So their fix?

    More traits = more AP grinding.
    the fix for AP is making AP bassicly no point in farming it once you get to the new paragon
    and AK is being doubled, brought to 50
  1. Saverem's Avatar
    Biggest one for my guild is forgetting to NOT RELEASE on a wipe. Even though we remind people not to because we have a brez/pylon, at least 3 people still do.
  1. Gib Lover's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Arvandor View Post
    micro holidays without a reward to collect are a waste of time for the players and the devs!
    Fun is it's own reward.
  1. Elennoko's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by dankhart View Post
    I thought they were getting rid of the 20 point damage boost artifact trait. On the 7.2 artifact calculator that is linked in the post, both the new and the old damage boost traits are there? Is this the new version?
    A new 50 point paragon trait is added. Concordance of the Legionfall. It increases your primary stat by 2000 for 10 seconds, going up with every point.
  1. mmoce193b9fd19's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Gib Lover View Post
    Fun is it's own reward.
    Tried them twice and it was basically nothing to do except kill some mobs - really don't get how they're supposed to be fun. More fun to just keep doing the stuff I usually do like dungeons or raids. As I heard the dino thing was just dinos scaled to your level and if you killed them you got a temporary buff - not enough to make me bother to even fly down there and I guess a lot of people felt the same.
  1. Gib Lover's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by liangdar View Post
    Tried them twice and it was basically nothing to do except kill some mobs - really don't get how they're supposed to be fun. More fun to just keep doing the stuff I usually do like dungeons or raids. As I heard the dino thing was just dinos scaled to your level and if you killed them you got a temporary buff - not enough to make me bother to even fly down there and I guess a lot of people felt the same.
    I was moreso responding to the point that doing things without a reward is a waste of time
  1. mmoce193b9fd19's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Gib Lover View Post
    I was moreso responding to the point that doing things without a reward is a waste of time
    And I meant that things, that are neither really fun nor rewarding are an actual waste of time.
  1. Gadzooks's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by familiar View Post
    A lot of things changed in Blizzard since then, and the current development team is struggling to came up with fun things to do, that's why everything boils down to mindless grind nowadays.
    Hard to believe they can't come up with more ideas for the Darkmoon Faire.

    "Fun" is a moving target, tho - some players might like puzzles, some might like running around UnGoro for shits and giggles, some might like chasing easter eggs around town. They're trying stuff, which is better than nothing - how many years did the holiday events get untouched and un-updated?

    Overall, it's just more of the devs isolating everything into it's proper box. Can't get any sort of player progression or edge, or the raiders will cry because their raid leaders will force them to run it, so everything in the "holiday" box has to be meaningless or short-lived, as a reward.

    But then, on the other hand, they spend a lot of time making a fun puzzle set like the hidden artifact skins, and everyone throws a fit because they can't read exactly how to do it with no effort and get it done in 5 minutes.

    Nobody can win, not the devs, not the players, nobody.

    One of my favorite pets was the wolf puppy, that you got from the cave outside blackrock, and you had to catch one in UBRS during a boss encounter. Love to see them do more stuff like that. No, wait, not in today's game environment. "Hey, I need to catch a pup here!" "GTFO newb dont slow us down" *You have been removed from the party*

    Yeah, I'm cynical. Sue me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gib Lover View Post
    I was moreso responding to the point that doing things without a reward is a waste of time
    I don't know about that. Back in vanilla, we did all kinds of goofy things, just for the fun of it - and those times are the ones I remember the most.

    Granted, the game these days is all about "stuff", where other players might as well be AI, for all of the interaction going on. The only time people seemed to want to talk to others, back when I played, was to show off "stuff" or shitpost in chat.

    I guess the view on the hamster wheel is different, huh? Gotta keep running! What? Stop running and do something that doesn't move the wheel? Crazy talk!
  1. Gib Lover's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by liangdar View Post
    And I meant that things, that are neither really fun nor rewarding are an actual waste of time.
    Fun is subjective.

    People can do things for fun without a carrot dangled in front of them.
  1. DevilsAdvocate's Avatar
    Subscription members are probably low but not as low as WOD. Probably a ton of mentally imbalanced people that are addicted to the dopamine high of playing this game are going to complain about AP but keep playing the game.

    Most of the rest will just quit. Adios Blizzard. F*** you and turning this game into a Diablo-esque mediocre grind.
  1. Trumpcat's Avatar
    The stroking of Ghostcrawler's ego will never end.
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