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June 20 Class Tuning Adjustments
These adjustments will go live after the next weekly maintenance.
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Following the release of Patch 7.2.5, we continue to monitor every spec's performance and make tuning adjustments as necessary. With the opening of the Tomb of Sargeras in mind, during scheduled maintenance on 20 June, we expect to make the following changes:

Demon Hunter (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Vengeance
    • Damage of all abilities reduced by 5%.
    • Spirit Bomb damage reduced by 33%.

Hunter (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Survival
    • Damage of all abilities increased by 3%.

Mage (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Arcane
    • Damage of all abilities increased by 3%.
  • Fire
    • Damage of all abilities increased by 3%.

Monk (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Brewmaster
    • Stagger now has 40% effectiveness against Magic damage (was 50%).

Paladin (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Retribution
    • Damage of all abilities increased 3.5%

Priest (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Discipline
    • Evangelism now has a duration of 6 seconds (was 7 seconds).

Shaman (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Elemental
    • Damage of all abilities increased by 3%.
    • Smoldering Heart proc chance is now 10% per 100 Maelstrom spent (was 20%).

Warlock (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Affliction
    • Damage of all abilities reduced by 5%.
  • Destruction
    • Damage of all abilities reduced by 5%.

Warrior (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Arms
    • Trauma can no longer Critically Strike.
    • Damage of all abilities reduced by 4%.


In addition to the class changes above, we're doing some final tuning on a couple of the forthcoming Tier-20 sets:

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Mythic+ Loot
Will we get higher than 905 gear in the weekly M+ cache on patch day if we complete a +15 the week leading up to the patch?
The new level of Mythic Keystone 11-15 rewards will become active the week that the Mythic difficulty of Tomb of Sargeras opens. (WarcraftDevs)

Do i have to do a +15 this Week so i get Higher ilvl loot from my Weekly Chest or will the Cap still be +10 for another week?
The M+ loot cap generally goes up when Mythic difficulty of the raid unlocks - that's how it worked for Nightmare and Nighthold. (WatcherDev)

Achievements
.why remove the FoS ''Unholy determination'' From the DK Class mount quest, for those who've done it? Thats a slap in the face.
Don't want folks to feel the need to check guides before doing quests lest they miss out on something permanently without knowing it. (WatcherDev)
The FoS had been deleted in 7.2.5 data weeks ago. "Missable" achievements in one-time content would set a dangerous precedent. (WatcherDev)

Ghostcrawler Tweets
Ghostcrawler still occasionally talks about WoW. Remember that he no longer works for or speaks for Blizzard.
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
You were on the WoW team still when it was said that there is too many currencies and it needed to be reined in. Since your departure, WoW has just seen more and more currencies added. Your thoughts on why this might be the case from a design perspective?
Generally it happens because you want to encourage players to engage in lots of different forms of content. If you have say 3 currencies and 10 forms of content, then what probably happens is one of the currencies can be earned in many different ways and there is a risk players will gravitate towards the most efficient. Having different currencies also lets you offer rewards on different cadences (say something with not much buying power that you reward frequently, versus something very powerful that you only offer once a week or less.)

The instincts to offer different rewards for different things makes your life a little easier for the designers, and often benefits players as well. The main downside is the growing complexity of a system, which can be overwhelming for players to keep straight.

Caveat: I haven’t played WoW in over 3 years. (Source)



EU Arena Cup #3 LIVE June 24-25 at 17:00 CEST: Tune In!
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
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You can catch all the action on our official World of Warcraft Twitch channel in English. The stream will also be available in Russian.

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Approved Community Events
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Tomb of Sargeras Minimalist Guide
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This article was originally published in forum thread: June 21 Class Tuning Adjustments, Tweets, EU Arena Cup #3, ToS Minimalist Guide started by chaud View original post
Published on 2017-06-16 11:10 PM
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  1. Shadocat's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Aliven View Post
    Why? I play destro currently. 5% is nothing.
    Still, why at all? That should be +5% because of fel and daemons...

    Well, my guess is that there is no more dedicated team for warlocks, the mage-team has to do it on the side.
  1. Reith's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadocat View Post
    Still, why at all? That should be +5% because of fel and daemons...

    Well, my guess is that there is no more dedicated team for warlocks, the mage-team has to do it on the side.
    And reality smacked you in the face: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statist...n=3&dataset=90
  1. Adcap6's Avatar
    [QUOTE=Reith;46146751]And reality smacked you in the face]

    Whats your point exactly? wait allow me to smack you in the face. Next in LINE PLEASE!! Enhancement Shamans and All rogues, thats right I said all rogues to the front of the line. Next week will be...Havoc, Demo and wait what?? FERAL? yeah *looks at the clip board* that cant be right *shrugs* Just remember everyone, you will be 5% downed no sooner than a week or longer than. Thank you!!! for flying Wow! where we all fly where we wants so long as you bitch!
  1. Aliven's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadocat View Post
    Still, why at all? That should be +5% because of fel and daemons...

    Well, my guess is that there is no more dedicated team for warlocks, the mage-team has to do it on the side.
    As Reith repliyed, because they are above everyone else. Destro is very, very buffed. Both mechanically and number wise.

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    [QUOTE=Adcap6;46147074]
    Quote Originally Posted by Reith View Post
    And reality smacked you in the face]

    Whats your point exactly? wait allow me to smack you in the face. Next in LINE PLEASE!! Enhancement Shamans and All rogues, thats right I said all rogues to the front of the line. Next week will be...Havoc, Demo and wait what?? FERAL? yeah *looks at the clip board* that cant be right *shrugs* Just remember everyone, you will be 5% downed no sooner than a week or longer than. Thank you!!! for flying Wow! where we all fly where we wants so long as you bitch!
    Enhancement Shaman, as you can clearly see is not standing out like both lock specs and arms currently. Learn to read data provided.
  1. Xe4ro's Avatar
    Man i love the sprites on that minimalistic boss guide
  1. Kaver's Avatar
    In relation to the 7.2.5 data from Warcraftlog.com, these buffs/nerfs seems to be appropriate.
  1. zezel81's Avatar
    Wow blizzard is retarded. VDH needed nerf it was spirit bomb but then I go and nerf everything on them haha.
  1. Kaver's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by zezel81 View Post
    Wow blizzard is retarded. VDH needed nerf it was spirit bomb but then I go and nerf everything on them haha.
    Vengeance dmg nerf is fine. Look at these logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statist...7&difficulty=4
  1. Menz's Avatar
    Poor DH. But at least I had my fun with spirit bomb and tanked normal mythic with 790 gear.
  1. Trollfat's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Reith View Post
    I'd say no, it won't.

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    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statist...t=60&boss=1863 I don't think so.
    Tomb = high movement. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statist...t=60&boss=1867
  1. Traxwow's Avatar
    arms untouched lmfao
  1. Silverhustle's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Appelgren View Post
    More buffs to Ret? I thought holinka stopped destroying the game? Is he still in there or what?
    Have you seen the log? Ret is basically in the last second place.
  1. Better's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaver View Post
    Vengeance dmg nerf is fine. Look at these logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statist...7&difficulty=4
    The only reason veng is shining right now is the changes made to how Spirit Bomb works. Something the Veng community REPEATEDLY warned blizz about. It is/was absurd to give a tank that much %AP damage with no CD what so ever.

    The nerf doesn't even seem to make us not take Spirit Bomb anymore, it's still the go to at all times in that row.
  1. valcrist's Avatar
    Yup typical blizzard any improvements to lock start getting nerfed as soon as the first hot fix been saying for months as soon as the destro patch is out nerds will hit
  1. Krausier's Avatar
    nerf em all!
  1. Unholyground's Avatar
    WTB Police Box Mount to go with the Timelord title. MAKE IT SO BLOZZARD!
  1. zezel81's Avatar
    Wow logs= evidence
    Still ppl post to feel good. Lol
    Armory = copy paste
    Combine those credit from someone else build. Then the groupies come and then bam a nerf.
    Of course some nerf is unwarranted yet still happens. Say a dps farms different sets/gear, AP, and sims. Then average butt hurt joe loses in a dps to another dps screams a nerf. Even tho said guy pick gear over ilvl equipped 902 unequipped 916 and butt hurt joe is 905 equipped and unequipped.. haha love this game
  1. Unholyground's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Better View Post
    The only reason veng is shining right now is the changes made to how Spirit Bomb works. Something the Veng community REPEATEDLY warned blizz about. It is/was absurd to give a tank that much %AP damage with no CD what so ever.

    The nerf doesn't even seem to make us not take Spirit Bomb anymore, it's still the go to at all times in that row.
    So would you even keep Soul Cleave on your bars then? Seems like a waste of a cd if this is that much better.
  1. Better's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    So would you even keep Soul Cleave on your bars then? Seems like a waste of a cd if this is that much better.
    unnerfed no, soul cleave served nearly no purpose. With the nerf maybe? IDK if the numbers have been run yet.
  1. mmoc9804b1efc7's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaver View Post
    In relation to the 7.2.5 data from Warcraftlog.com, these buffs/nerfs seems to be appropriate.
    This, so so much this!


    Holy crap this community, these buffs if you check the 75th percentile are exactly in line with current DPS rankings, there is no MMO on the market that is THIS closely balanced with its DPS, yet you guys regurlarly make it sound like the world is coming to an end.

    Thankfully, Kaver is one of the people able to see that this tuning is resonable.

    Blizzard is doing an excellent job balancing the classes this xpac, and you who change specs on a dime due to nerfs/buffs only got yourselves to blame. If you enjoy a spec, stick to it. Stop trying to chase that top spot carrot, every single spec in the game has been up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valcrist View Post
    Yup typical blizzard any improvements to lock start getting nerfed as soon as the first hot fix been saying for months as soon as the destro patch is out nerds will hit
    for the love of.... all this nerf does is bring them into the pack, it wont place them at the bottom of it.
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