Armory Stats - Patch 7.3 Achievements, Blue Tweets, Overwatch: Anthology, DLC #602

Originally Posted by Vegas82

Wow, you must really hate your friends if they deserve to watch the BlizzCon virtual ticket because of what they've done to you.

Haha. Nah they been there for me on some rough times in my life and picked me back up.

They are like family to me. They like Blizzard so I got them the VT while I'm away.

Originally Posted by Soulmech

Out of curiosity, which mmo did you move to?

Guild Wars 2, which I knew by name but I always mocked as "wow surrogate which will never be as good as my beloved Blizzard mmo".

I casually found a Reddit post about GW2 mounts and fell in love with it. I then decided to be a little more oben minded, go deeper, read some comments and finally installed the free client. One days later I purchased the base game and expansions (49€ bundle). This gives you an idea of how much it hit me :-).

Main differences with WoW:

• world exploration is meaningful (and fun)
• no class trifecta (tank, healer, dps)
• combat is engaging and fun even when you kill a rabbit (I'm dead serious!)
• level-scaling content everywhere with loot/rewards that adapt to your real level (a level 50 running level 10 content will be lowered to level 11 but still get level 50 loot)
• extremely rewarding and fun to play, each level gain, login, discovery... gives you something (loot, experience, points, etc)
• lots of classes/races to play with with almost no restrictions
• alt-friendly
• great AH (called Trading Post) that can be used everywhere on the field
• mats can be dropped to your bank from anywhere with a simple click
• lots of QoL features
• extremely cool and helpful community, people will support/revive you while playing and give hints/help even when not asked
• no gear outleveling and no power creep
• gold has a real value (rich players have few hundreds, VERY rich players hoard few thousands).
• great-to-amazing graphics (if you can handle ultra + filters)

After 10+ years in WoW I can't deny GW2 seriously changed my mmo life, that's it. I could once again feel the thrill of leveling, exploring, looting, killing, etc. It's not a perfect MMO of course, it will not please everyone... But coming from WoW I find it amazingly fun and engaging. This is the first time I feel the desire to level alts, for example. Exploring the world is fun (secrets, mini-bosses, mini-games, ...), level-scaling adds a lot of replayability to every zone, etc.

Originally Posted by Ryken

Not really. Appear Offline is for bnet friends only. Presumably Krom is raiding with a guild, and appear offline doesn't hide you from guild list, or even WoW friend list. It doesn't even prevent people from cross server whispering you. So there is realistically no way that you can raid dodge while appearing offline and still do things in WoW without anyone knowing. The comic pretty much shows something that can't happen with the new system, and isn't relatable at all.

Unless he made a new char that is on noones friendlist and not part of the guild. In which case they would only see him via his battle.net tag which is set to offline.

Originally Posted by Daille

So there is only 1,8m active subs ~ ? I thought we were back to 5-6m currently.

EU and US presumably means that Asian players are not included in this equation. There could be anywhere between 1-3 million of them. We also don't know if these 1.8 millions active players are the only active players, as far as I know. And even then it presumably only counts qualified players. I.E. someone who's spent an hour a day leveling a new character wouldn't be counted.

It's hard to see exactly how many active players there are. Given how prominently featured WoW is at Blizzcon this year, I'd assume Blizzard have deemed it active enough to continue supporting it. The WoW-tokens probably made the game extremely lucrative.

Originally Posted by Doffen

lol. Your opinion must be mine. Oh lord gimme your opinion!!

/s

If He is on whit is main, they can see he is online via guild tab.

Herp Derp is not opinion is using that thing called brain Herp Derp

Originally Posted by bigamie

Unless he made a new char that is on noones friendlist

The main point of being "invisible" should be... playing whatever toon you want without being visibile to anyone. That's currently impossible unless you play an alt with no friends. I find it mostly useless apart from very specific situations.

Originally Posted by Merillo

If He is on whit is main, they can see he is online via guild tab.

Herp Derp is not opinion is using that thing called brain Herp Derp

You got one? Not everyone is laughing at the obvious point. THe funny part of that comic is that the stupid dude is asking where Krom is and Krom is now relaxing. If thats how the feature works or not, who cares. Its just a comic.

You just failed at life, again. Seriously, check *deleted for reasons*. Herp derp.

Originally Posted by Doffen

THe funny part of that comic is that the stupid dude is asking where Krom is and Krom is now relaxing

Which isn't fun... Because everyone would know that Krom is relaxing. That's the point. The offline mode doesn't hide you from friends/guildies (unless you're playing an alt with no friends, which is not the case of Krom). It would be fun if it was something that reflects an ingame feature. This is not the case.

Originally Posted by Doffen

You got one? Not everyone is laughing at the obvious point. THe funny part of that comic is that the stupid dude is asking where Krom is and Krom is now relaxing. If thats how the feature works or not, who cares. Its just a comic.

You just failed at life, again. Seriously, check *deleted for reasons*. Herp derp.

And maybe you failed at comprension reading, cos you "trolled" the one that explain to you that in the real game wont works like it and you responded whit " "your opinion trololololololololo"

Maybe is time to leave your mother basement and see the real world mr

Argus participation seems really low considering how long it's been out for.

Originally Posted by Merillo

And maybe you failed at comprension reading, cos you "trolled" the one that explain to you that in the real game wont works like it and you responded whit " "your opinion trololololololololo"

Maybe is time to leave your mother basement and see the real world mr

Thanks for making my day.

Originally Posted by Chrisxor

Argus participation seems really low considering how long it's been out for.

I would argu(s)e that no-flying and horrible terrain elevations don't help at all.

Originally Posted by MrLoque

Which isn't fun... Because everyone would know that Krom is relaxing. That's the point. The offline mode doesn't hide you from friends/guildies (unless you're playing an alt with no friends, which is not the case of Krom). It would be fun if it was something that reflects an ingame feature. This is not the case.

Nah I get that you don't think so, but I think the actual comic is fun, and others do as well(and appearantly people think its not fun as well) If you know the other DLC comics, you know how their relationship. And that is funny.

Whats also funny is that other in his guild is in ToS, and he is not. Maybe he is on an alt not in guild? Does it make more sense now?

Originally Posted by Doffen

Nah I get that you don't think so, but I think the actual comic is fun, and others do as well(and appearantly people think its not fun as well) If you know the other DLC comics, you know how their relationship. And that is funny.

I know DLC comics since #1, yes. Can you please explain me where is the fun aspect of this specific comic, which addresses a new wow feature which is not currently "real"? It makes fun of a specific aspect that doesn't exist. I don't get the fun, honestly.

The fun part -in theory- would be that Krom is happy to be doing something simple (fishing) instead of raiding... while others are think he's offline. "He's not online so he must be doing something in real life" but he actually is ingame on fishing and relaxing "hahahah!".

Right? That should be the "fun" aspect of this comic.

Originally Posted by MrLoque

[*]no class trifecta (tank, healer, dps)

And this is exactly why I can't stand it, though I've heard they've moved somewhat away from it.

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Originally Posted by MrLoque

I know DLC comics since #1, yes. Can you please explain me where is the fun aspect of this specific comic, which addresses a new wow feature which is not currently "real"? It makes fun of a specific aspect that doesn't exist. I don't get the fun, honestly.

One could argue it shows a problem that could exist if they extended the Appear Offline feature to wow guild and friends list, and frankly one of the reasons why I hope they don't.

Originally Posted by MrLoque

I know DLC comics since #1, yes. Can you please explain me where is the fun aspect of this specific comic, which addresses a new wow feature which is not currently "real"? It makes fun of a specific aspect that doesn't exist. I don't get the fun, honestly.

The fun part -in theory- would be that Krom is happy to be doing something simple (fishing) instead of raiding... while others are think he's offline. "He's not online so he must be doing something in real life" but he actually is ingame on fishing and relaxing "hahahah!".

Right? That should be the "fun" aspect of this comic.

Fun is subjectively. And yes, if he is actually on an alt, it does make sense, doesnt it now?

Originally Posted by Onikaroshi

One could argue it shows a problem that could exist if they extended the Appear Offline feature to wow guild and friends list, and frankly one of the reasons why I hope they don't.

"One could argue" completely deviates from the original intent of this comic. A comic stripe has a specific objective, it doesn't need to be argued or understood. DLC comics have always been clear, immediate and on point. This one doesn't make any sense because -I think- the author didn't read the "appear offline" limitations in WoW.

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Originally Posted by Doffen

Fun is subjectively. And yes, if he is actually on an alt, it does make sense, doesnt it now?

If you know DLC comics you know Krom is a well-known toon with lots of friends. It's not a generic alt. This comic clearly shows the friends panel with a huge "offline" label for your raiding friends. It makes sure that you see Krom being idle while his friends are in a raid. The entire point of the stripe is to make fun of the offline option, which hides you from friends/guildmates and lets you fish without worrying about your them. It even says "bliss" to underline the happiness of being invisible/anonymous to your friends and be free to do silly stuff. Which-is-wrong because it doesn't work like that.

Originally Posted by MrLoque

Guild Wars 2, which I knew by name but I always mocked as "wow surrogate which will never be as good as my beloved Blizzard mmo".

I casually found a Reddit post about GW2 mounts and fell in love with it. I then decided to be a little more oben minded, go deeper, read some comments and finally installed the free client. One days later I purchased the base game and expansions (49€ bundle). This gives you an idea of how much it hit me :-).

Main differences with WoW:

• world exploration is meaningful (and fun)
• no class trifecta (tank, healer, dps)
• combat is engaging and fun even when you kill a rabbit (I'm dead serious!)
• level-scaling content everywhere with loot/rewards that adapt to your real level (a level 50 running level 10 content will be lowered to level 11 but still get level 50 loot)
• extremely rewarding and fun to play, each level gain, login, discovery... gives you something (loot, experience, points, etc)
• lots of classes/races to play with with almost no restrictions
• alt-friendly
• great AH (called Trading Post) that can be used everywhere on the field
• mats can be dropped to your bank from anywhere with a simple click
• lots of QoL features
• extremely cool and helpful community, people will support/revive you while playing and give hints/help even when not asked
• no gear outleveling and no power creep
• gold has a real value (rich players have few hundreds, VERY rich players hoard few thousands).
• great-to-amazing graphics (if you can handle ultra + filters)

After 10+ years in WoW I can't deny GW2 seriously changed my mmo life, that's it. I could once again feel the thrill of leveling, exploring, looting, killing, etc. It's not a perfect MMO of course, it will not please everyone... But coming from WoW I find it amazingly fun and engaging. This is the first time I feel the desire to level alts, for example. Exploring the world is fun (secrets, mini-bosses, mini-games, ...), level-scaling adds a lot of replayability to every zone, etc.

I've always felt that GW2 is just outright better than most MMOs, in terms of graphics and mechanics both. The main point that most people seem to have about it is in the nature of the content. Because despite it's superior design, GW2 is not WoW. It doesn't have the same themes, or feeling, or graphics. Add to that an unhealthy dose of investment in their WoW characters, and it's not surprising that so many people don't bother to look closely enough at GW2 to really appreciate it.

I think it's great that you took the time to actually check it out and see for yourself the differences!

Originally Posted by Daille

So there is only 1,8m active subs ~ ? I thought we were back to 5-6m currently.

uhh no they did not get to collect data from every single person playing right now... if it was that easy to cvollect that data then blizz just would show numbers

also there is LOTS of people who dont play but keep subbed, has bee like that since vanilla

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Originally Posted by Hextor

Almost 10% got scammed by virtual tickets :s Tho they probably got it for the mounts only.

scammed?
how did they get scammed?
they bought something, and they got what they were promised... i... when you go use your food stamps to buy mcdonalds do you call them scammers when they hand you, your quadruple big mac?

Originally Posted by MrLoque

"One could argue" completely deviates from the original intent of this comic. A comic stripe has a specific objective, it doesn't need to be argued or understood. DLC comics have always been clear, immediate and on point. This one doesn't make any sense because -I think- the author didn't read the "appear offline" limitations in WoW.

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If you know DLC comics you know Krom is a well-known toon with lots of friends. It's not a generic alt. This comic clearly shows the friends panel with a huge "offline" label for your raiding friends. It makes sure that you see Krom being idle while his friends are in a raid. The entire point of the stripe is to make fun of the offline option, which hides you from friends/guildmantes and lets you fish without worrying about your them. Which-is-wrong because it doesn't work like that.

"One could argue" that what I think is fun is not what you think is fun. Its a comic wich shows a scenario about offline mode. Last time it was about velen and illidan imitating peoples whining. I tought it was hilarious, but illidan and velen doesn't really do that ingame now do they? Its a comic. How you see it can be entirely different from everybody else.