Battle for Azeroth Developer Q&A
There was Dev Q&A today covering Battle for Azeorth. Our first draft of notes is below, but watch the full thing for context.




Allied Races
  • The team is is working to get 4 extra character slots out to everyone in the next few days, regardless of if pre-purchase or not.
  • Allied Race unlocks and requirements are account wide.
  • You need a Level 110 on the faction you want to unlock an Allied Race on, but requirements for that unlock are account wide.
  • The team has tried to pull back on the raw power of racial abilities in the past few expansions.
  • Other than Arcane Torrent, most racials aren't overly powerful now.
  • The Void Elf racial is not a copy of Mage blink. It isn't an instant teleport, it requires pre-planning to use. You need to know you are going to teleport a few seconds ahead of time.
  • The team wanted players to experience why these new races joined the Horde or Alliance, which is done through reputation or achievement requirements.
  • The team will look at the requirements as time goes on, we move to other expansions and have more Allied Races, but for now they make sense.
  • You will be able to work on unlocking other Allied Races (such as Draenor Orcs) as the expansion unfolds. You gain the Zandalari as allies in Battle for Azeroth.

PvP
  • Solo Queue is unlikely to be in Battle for Azeroth.
  • If you could solo queue, it would blur the distinction between ranked PvP and regular PvP.
  • In other games that have solo queue, there is a lot more flexibility to change your composition. WoW isn't nearly as flexible.
  • Solo queue would produce a frustrating experience.
  • Playing with partners adds a lot of depth and social interaction.
  • The team would like to make it easier and more accessible to get into these rated PvP formats.
  • With Rated Battlegrounds, the team might move the size to 6v6, as it has worked out well in Brawls.
  • The team also wants to add more tools to make it easier to find partners to play with. Hopefully the Communities tool helps here.
  • The arena spectator mode is in. It's a thing. You can use it. The team can build upon this in the future.
  • Adding additional Prestige tiers forever isn't the right solution. Existing players have spent a lot of time earning the rewards they have now though.
  • The team wants to keep the existing Prestige ranks, continue to add new ranks, but those new ranks would just give you a box or some kind of repeatable reward again. This makes Prestige a measure of how much you have PvPed rather than a grind for rewards.
  • There are Honor Talents that aren't competitive in their rows. Honor Talents also feel like a barrier to entry rather than a reward.
  • You may get to pick three Honor Talents out of a pool of many talents, with a fourth slot reserved for a trinket customization. This should give you more flexibility. Honor Talents will be unlocked by player level, so as soon as you hit the level cap they will all be unlocked.
  • Seething Shore is coming before Battle of Azeroth.
  • The team wants gear to matter in PvP, but not to the point where you have no chance because someone has played more than you.
  • When you enable PvP mode on an RP realm, you still will follow RP rules and won't automatically put you on a shard with other realm players.
  • Going forward, there will just be Normal and RP realms. You can opt-in to PvP if you want.
  • Except in cases of extreme load, RP realms don't split or pull in players from other realms. During something like an expansion launch, some sharding does take place to avoid server crashes. You can still voluntarily group with players from other realms.

Islands
  • Islands will be a lucrative source of Azerite.
  • A PvP mode may reward honor.

Warfronts
  • These are very heavily inspired by RTS elements from Warcraft II and III.
  • You don't get to train grunts and footmen, controlling them literally with RTS style.
  • Imagine a Warcraft III map where you got to play as a hero on that map.

Class Changes
  • Sometimes you should bring the class, not the player.
  • The goal here is to encourage a wide diversity of class and spec representation.
  • When multiple people are bringing an AoE stun, one of them will be the best, so you will just want to bring that one.
  • If you are forming a smaller group, you can't have all the classes and specs, so your gameplay changes there a little bit based on the abilities that you have.
  • Encounter Design will create situations that make all of those tools valuable.
  • "Bring the Player, not the Class" is one of the misinterpreted things of all time. It was a response to a completely degenerate situation, back when there were no raid wide buffs, they were all party based.
  • When classes have unique tools, it should be easier to find a spot in a group because your ability will be valued, rather than leaders picking whoever is at the top of sims today.
  • The team overprioritized spec identity over class identity in Legion development. There should be more class wide strengths. There are some limits, such as perks for specs on hybrid classes.
  • In Legion, classes were redesigned and Artifacts were layered on top of that.
  • There is a core set of abilities and tools that a class has, then there are some you get from other sources, such as Racials, Artifacts, Set Bonuses, and more. Azerite Armor is where this is going to live in Battle for Azeroth, as it will add depth, complexity, and customization.
  • If a spec's rotation only works well due to an Artifact ability, that is a gap that will need to be filled.
  • With Azerite Armor, you will have more frequent changes and customization than you do with Artifacts.
  • Survival Hunter is one of the specs that is getting significant reworks in Battle for Azeroth. It is an example of where spec fantasy was put before class fantasy. Suddenly you hit Level 110 and forgot how to use a bow.
  • The Titanforge system averages out in the long run. A player that only runs LFR may end up with one powerful item, but the rest of their slots are LFR gear. Weapon slots matter more though, so the current thinking is to not let weapons Titanforge, only Warforge.
  • The Azerite Armor slots won't be able to Titanforge or Warforge at all.
This article was originally published in forum thread: Battle for Azeroth Developer Q&A started by chaud View original post
Comments 63 Comments
  1. Anelya's Avatar
    Soooo, can you play as the new sub races already?
    Am working and won't be home for a few hours, but I wanna know if I can swap my NE for a VE instead :x
  1. PraisCthulhu's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Grievuuz View Post
    Almost 3 months with not even a sliver of Classic info. Sadtimes.
    First, this was advertised as a Battle for Azeroth Q&A, are you really surprised they only talked about BfA?

    Second, they said at BlizzCon that they were *just* starting the whole classic project and it wasn't very far along. That was 2.5 months ago, roughly half of which was the holidays where much less work is being done. There is probably nothing new to share.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by PraisCthulhu View Post
    First, this was advertised as a Battle for Azeroth Q&A, are you really surprised they only talked about BfA?

    Second, they said at BlizzCon that they were *just* starting the whole classic project and it wasn't very far along. That was 2.5 months ago, roughly half of which was the holidays where much less work is being done. There is probably nothing new to share.
    If you pre-order BfA and have met that race's unlock requirements (exalted with Argussian Reach and complete Argus quest line to "You are now prepared" for VE), then you can do a quick unlock scenario and play as the new race today.
  1. morph4037's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Anelya View Post
    Soooo, can you play as the new sub races already?
    Am working and won't be home for a few hours, but I wanna know if I can swap my NE for a VE instead :x
    Only four of them, zan and dark are in BfA. Not sure about the race change though.
  1. Piplupzero's Avatar
    Encounter design making specific tools valuable? Isn't that the exact same thing they said about making mythic 20 man and we saw that in literally one fight that required a priest before they gave up?
  1. Magnagarde's Avatar
    Zero talk and discussion as to how they're going to correct the attrocious leveling system and the numbers affiliated to it.
  1. Anelya's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by morph4037 View Post
    Only four of them, zan and dark are in BfA. Not sure about the race change though.
    Alrighty, thanks. I'll check it later
  1. Oxhart's Avatar
    Ion's face superimposed onto Sylvanas' face is gold.

    Also the tape on the mic.
  1. morph4037's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Anelya View Post
    Alrighty, thanks. I'll check it later
    Np.

    /10char
  1. Kittahsmash's Avatar
    When classes have unique tools, it should be easier to find a spot in a group because your ability will be valued, rather than leaders picking whoever is at the top of sims today.
    That assumes the guild you're going to run with doesn't already have somebody with the same class as you. What if you're a mage, but the guild already has 2 raiding mages? Whoever is at the top of the sims still wins.
  1. Cavox's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kittahsmash View Post
    Whoever is at the top of the sims still wins.
    There is no solution to this. It's really the problem of the whole "simming" than class/game design. There will always be cookie cutter builds for the same reason.
  1. Banquetto's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by markdall View Post
    This is going to really suck, when they add something like "You get double/triple the XP/Armor Power/Gold/whatever if you do X while flagged."

    Which they will. Blizzard loves nothing more than enticing people who don't want to PvP into being victims of those who do. (Source: Vanilla to MoP on a PvP server.)
    Yep. It's ridiculous that since Vanilla you've gotten double/triple rewards if you play on a PvP server, thus forcing people who don't want to PvP to play on them.

    Oh wait, that never happened, and you're just talking absolute nonsense.
  1. Easo's Avatar
    So, the brown orcs (forgive me for the simplicity) are in. Good good, Blizzard... Wildhammer dwarves next, please.
  1. Jasper Kazai's Avatar
    Having to have a max level of the faction just to be able to make an allied race is such a dumb requirement. BfA is one of the first expansions where I'd like to see both sides, since they are split up pretty radically, but not being able to do so as one of the new races I want to be is lame. I already met the actual requirements, why include this unnecessary one to boot?
  1. salate's Avatar
    Titanforge debuff is something i wouldnt want to see.
    They love Mythic raiders so much :|
  1. meroko's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Piplupzero View Post
    Encounter design making specific tools valuable? Isn't that the exact same thing they said about making mythic 20 man and we saw that in literally one fight that required a priest before they gave up?
    Are you really going to pretend Mythic Gul'dan doesn't exist? There are quite a few Mythic encounters actually that require one or two specific classes. If they made every encounter class dependent, it would get old really fast, so I think the balance of those that do require specific tools to those that don't is pretty acceptable.
  1. sarkarin's Avatar
    It worries me how little 'content' or changes they have planned for PvP considering participation has utterly tanked. Blizzard has catered the whole PvP gameplay / rewards / systems and overall experience to the toxic high-end PvP 'community' (If you can even call it that). BFAs PvP experience is already headed for disaster.

    We don't need this 6v6 bullshit. It'll just end up on a ladder and be a toxic pile of shit just like every other rated bracket where a bunch of people with macros and meta comps stomp and every group needs 2k+ xp. You will go to LFR you see: "XXX Comp 2.4k XP link achiev" then give up for one reason or another and move on to something else.

    It leaves me speechless to be honest. I am filled with hope when I see new posts only to see them continue their strategy of 'high rated exclusiveness' to the detriment of 90% of the community. It's just not sustainable and the participation is lower and lower with each passing day. If PvP rewards can't exist without being rooted to this complete failure ladder system then the PvP side of this game will stay at this point of stagnation indefinitely.
  1. Val the Moofia Boss's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by sarkarin View Post
    It worries me how little 'content' or changes they have planned for PvP considering participation has utterly tanked. Blizzard has catered the whole PvP gameplay / rewards / systems and overall experience to the toxic high-end PvP 'community' (If you can even call it that). BFAs PvP experience is already headed for disaster.

    We don't need this 6v6 bullshit. It'll just end up on a ladder and be a toxic pile of shit just like every other rated bracket where a bunch of people with macros and meta comps stomp and every group needs 2k+ xp. You will go to LFR you see: "XXX Comp 2.4k XP link achiev" then give up for one reason or another and move on to something else.

    It leaves me speechless to be honest. I am filled with hope when I see new posts only to see them continue their strategy of 'high rated exclusiveness' to the detriment of 90% of the community. It's just not sustainable and the participation is lower and lower with each passing day. If PvP rewards can't exist without being rooted to this complete failure ladder system then the PvP side of this game will stay at this point of stagnation indefinitely.
    I have to agree with this. The current direction PvP is heading had me worried.
  1. Kaibel's Avatar
    Anything about Demo Warlocks?
  1. Mayia's Avatar
    If they are going with the "Bring the class" statement, then people MUST pressure them for a faster leveling system along side the current one, because weeks to reroll into a useful class is not fair.
  1. kaintk's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Anelya View Post
    Soooo, can you play as the new sub races already?
    Am working and won't be home for a few hours, but I wanna know if I can swap my NE for a VE instead :x
    nope, because i play a DK haha, damn you blizzard

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