Racials and Trinkets Off the GCD - Battle for Azeroth Beta
You can see what class abilities are on the GCD in Battle for Azeroth on the WoWDB beta site.
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Yeah, we agree that having racials on the GCD isn't feeling great. Having to press multiple buttons in a row that don't do anything but increase throughput isn't particularly engaging. While we can resolve that issue within the context of a spec's toolkit, racials (as well as on-use trinkets) add an extra layer on top of that. So, in an upcoming beta build (likely next week), we'll be taking racials and on-use trinkets back off of the GCD.
This article was originally published in forum thread: Racials and Trinkets Off the GCD - Battle for Azeroth Beta started by chaud View original post
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  1. Ralqadar's Avatar
    Thank fuck.
  1. Indil's Avatar
    They're halfway there
  1. Hoodpa's Avatar
    Praise the Lord Watcher
  1. iamthedevil's Avatar
    "having [ENTER NEARLY EVERY CHANGE SO FAR] on the GCD isn't feeling great."
  1. Piggeh's Avatar
    In 2 months we'll get a blue post saying "Yeah we feel like the 5 spells left on the GCD feels pretty bad and uninteractive to play so we're taking everything we put on the GCD in BfA off the GCD.
  1. Nospmas's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post

    Being facetious aside, I never liked the idea of blowing all CDs for massive damage... then do mediocre damage while waiting for the CDs to reset. If the CDs were supposed to be used at the same time, might as well just roll them up into a single buff, since it's basically the same thing, already.
    This is the thing I don't think people understand, adding a GCD to abilities does nothing to address that. Since you pop your CDs in a sequence now you still do the massive damage at the end of the CD sequence then do the mediocre damage till the sequence is back up again. You were never going to just pop CDs at random downtimes in your rotation, it's always more benefit to stack CDs.
  1. Mivoc's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post

    Being facetious aside, I never liked the idea of blowing all CDs for massive damage... then do mediocre damage while waiting for the CDs to reset.
    That is definitely an issue they should address. I always thought it was dumb that fury hit like a wet noodle outside of Battle Cry, and even weaker outside of enrage. No enrage or battlecry up is sooooooo painful. Fury is in a really bad place imo.
  1. oathy's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Piggeh View Post
    In 2 months we'll get a blue post saying "Yeah we feel like the 5 spells left on the GCD feels pretty bad and uninteractive to play so we're taking everything we put on the GCD in BfA off the GCD.
    100%.
    they created a huge wall of negativity (that wasn't even needed)
    the long term health of the Game isnt going to be based around global Cd's but how the Classes are evolving
    and maybe more importantly how the story and direction of the sides unfolds.

    It reminds me of all that time and effort that was put into making Twitter updates via ingame
    complete and utter waste of time.
  1. Nozuka's Avatar
    i hope they stick with the GCD. i can understand taking trinkets and racials off the GCD, because they just complicate things and mess with rotations. but class abilities should be a choice and not a thoughtless part of a macro, or you could just remove them.

    the wall of negativity was pretty small IMHO. just a few people afraid of change.
  1. Volitar's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nozuka View Post
    i hope they stick with the GCD. i can understand taking trinkets and racials off the GCD, because they just complicate things and mess with rotations. but class abilities should be a choice and not a thoughtless part of a macro, or you could just remove them.

    the wall of negativity was pretty small IMHO. just a few people afraid of change.
    No one is "afraid of change" I have beta. I can play all the classes and for some of them it feels pretty fucking bad.

    Prot Warriors have their active mitigation on the GCD
    Feral Druid has Tiger's Fury on the GCD and when you are specced Predator it is a button you are pressing ever 3-5 GCDS
    Fury Warrior has to press 5 GCDS in a row to use all of their cooldowns together.

    There is nothing 'new and scary' about it, it feels like straight dogshit.
  1. Packers01's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nozuka View Post
    i hope they stick with the GCD. i can understand taking trinkets and racials off the GCD, because they just complicate things and mess with rotations. but class abilities should be a choice and not a thoughtless part of a macro, or you could just remove them.

    the wall of negativity was pretty small IMHO. just a few people afraid of change.
    What macro. Please do share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piggeh View Post
    In 2 months we'll get a blue post saying "Yeah we feel like the 5 spells left on the GCD feels pretty bad and uninteractive to play so we're taking everything we put on the GCD in BfA off the GCD.
    One can hope
  1. Cthulhu fhtagn's Avatar
    Racials i get, kinda disappointed to see trinkets too. I was hoping there was a possibility that trinkets even added almost rotational skills that acted like proper skills.
  1. Nupomaniac's Avatar
    Holy crap Asmongold and Hotted are two really lame and sad personalities.

    "WHAI DOESNT WOW PVP GET PPL RICH AS FUCK FROM TOURNAMENTS????"

    because wow pvp is a small niche thing and its almost unwatchable as an esport?
  1. Daedius's Avatar
    Hallelujah!
  1. Unholyground's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    So are they going to revert the troll racial back to it's Legion version then?
    Doubtful, they want people to still play them after Zandalari are released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggsworth View Post
    It's crazy how many things don't feel good on the GCD.
    It's like...like...this change is a mistake...hmmm...
    I played a ton of the classes on Alpha and Beta and I don't find any difference, but I never used macros for any abilities because I am not a pussy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volitar View Post
    No one is "afraid of change" I have beta. I can play all the classes and for some of them it feels pretty fucking bad.

    Prot Warriors have their active mitigation on the GCD
    Feral Druid has Tiger's Fury on the GCD and when you are specced Predator it is a button you are pressing ever 3-5 GCDS
    Fury Warrior has to press 5 GCDS in a row to use all of their cooldowns together.

    There is nothing 'new and scary' about it, it feels like straight dogshit.
    Some of these abilities like tigers fury are dated though, honestly they need to remove tigers fury I always found it annoying even as a Feral player.
  1. Volitar's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    Some of these abilities like tigers fury are dated though, honestly they need to remove tigers fury I always found it annoying even as a Feral player.
    I disagree heavily, TF is the most unique thing about Feral and to me is the best 'feeling' button in our toolkit.
  1. blehmeh's Avatar
    "Yeah, we agree that having racials on the GCD isn't feeling great."

    Hmmmm, really? Who'da thunk it?

    Oh right, basically everybody did. Everybody.

    Keep going, Blizz. Not done yet.
  1. Unholyground's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Volitar View Post
    I disagree heavily, TF is the most unique thing about Feral and to me is the best 'feeling' button in our toolkit.
    I would rather them increase the base energy regeneration and integrate the damage boost baseline, or make it a more powerful 2 or 3 minute CD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blehmeh View Post
    "Yeah, we agree that having racials on the GCD isn't feeling great."

    Hmmmm, really? Who'da thunk it?

    Oh right, basically everybody did. Everybody.

    Keep going, Blizz. Not done yet.
    They won't undo the rest, they will however take certain abilities off the GCD that don't work on the GCD.
  1. Primemrip's Avatar
    Blizz: "Hey guys, we are doing x"
    Community: "If you do x, z will happen"
    Blizz: "Don't worry, no it won't. It might feel like z is happening at first but after a while you'll find that z isn't really happening"
    Blizz Later: "Z happened and there's no way we could have foreseen this"

    And then people praise them for it.
  1. blehmeh's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Primemrip View Post
    Blizz: "Hey guys, we are doing x"
    Community: "If you do x, z will happen"
    Blizz: "Don't worry, no it won't. It might feel like z is happening at first but after a while you'll find that z isn't really happening"
    Blizz Later: "Z happened and there's no way we could have foreseen this"

    And then people praise them for it.
    You seemed to have forgotten at the end: "Please submit feedback! "

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