Retribution Paladin Feedback - Battle for Azeroth

Gee, a lot of people wanted Art of War back. Now it's a thing again!

Originally Posted by Sigxy the Lemming

Gee, a lot of people wanted Art of War back. Now it's a thing again!

Now with 100% less exorcism.

Originally Posted by saraxp

Now with 100% less exorcism.

I guess I'm lucky then that I like Blade of Justice quite a lot!

But the real issue with Retribution continues to be unaddressed... mobility.

Awww yeah. Just what I was hoping for! I really wanted to use HoW but Blade of Wrath felt too strong outside of executes to give up. Now I can have both. Kreygasm

Ret ist fine confirmed.
RIP

Originally Posted by matheney2k

We can't have every melee zipping around with crazy mobility.

Somebody has to be last bub.

Then choose a class with 2 or 3 dps specs to do it, not one with only 1 dps spec

Divine Purpose's proc chance has been reduced to 15% (down from 20%), but it now also increases the damage and healing of that free Holy Power spender by 20%.

let me get this straight... you reduce a spell's power by 33.3% (repeating of course) ... and then buff it by 20%.... classic blizzard nerf!

idk, maybe it plays fine on beta, maybe this was intended... maybe someone is bad at math.

Originally Posted by calathiel-

But the real issue with Retribution continues to be unaddressed... mobility.

Doesnt make sense to do such good dmg burst, have immune to snare, a crazy bubble that lasts forever, able to toss in a heal, able to instant LoH to full hp AND on top of that move like a DH... you guys gotta have ONE weakness... seriously!

I like this changes honestly. I am just a bit worried that Divine Purpose will not proc too much, but I think that we will be ok.

Solid changes overall, but I'm worried about the 15% proc chance being too low. We'll see, I guess.

Lovable chances to spice up the spec! Now take back that nerf to our My little
Pony CD

These are actually really interesting changes!

Originally Posted by Dawon

AND on top of that move like a DH

Please be careful with that straw-man; those are highly inflammable.

But seriously: No one asks for DH like movement. All we want is to not be the lame waddlers among the classes.

Blade of Wrath's mechanic is becoming baseline, named Art of War: Your auto attacks have a chance to reset the cooldown of Blade of Justice. Any many correctly pointed out, this is a sort of unpredictability that the spec needed in its baseline rotation.

...who wants more unpredictability? Why?

Are you going to fix the proc chance so that it doesn't proc on your very first auto attack, or proc literally 1 second before coming off cooldown?

Predictability is fun. Unpredictability is not. Please keep that as a talent so I can stay FAR away from it.

Originally Posted by matheney2k

We can't have every melee zipping around with crazy mobility.

Somebody has to be last bub.

DK says hi o/

Originally Posted by TyrannicalPuppy

...who wants more unpredictability? Why?

Are you going to fix the proc chance so that it doesn't proc on your very first auto attack, or proc literally 1 second before coming off cooldown?

Predictability is fun. Unpredictability is not. Please keep that as a talent so I can stay FAR away from it.

I think there should be a nice mix between predictability and unpredictability. Procs do make a spec more fun. Predictability will make a spec stale and boring, but a spec that relies only on procs doesn't work either. This change provides a nice balance.

I also don't understand why you're complaining about a talent becoming baseline.

Originally Posted by TyrannicalPuppy

Predictability is fun. Unpredictability is not. Please keep that as a talent so I can stay FAR away from it.

That is a very subjective opinion you've got there.

Divine Purpose change killed it for me.

This was probably one of the big popular proposed changes, the others being baseline HoW and baseline DP.

So all in all I think this is a change most of the Ret paladins will like. There's still some wiggling room for the final numerical values on this, but we'll have to see how all of that plays once the next build is up.