Dev Watercooler: Inside the World of Warcraft Classic BlizzCon Demo
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Hello World of Warcraft community! With BlizzCon 2018 getting closer every day, we wanted to give you an update on what you’ll be experiencing at BlizzCon around WoW Classic. We’ve been hard at work on bringing the original Azeroth back to life, and we’re excited that you’ll be able to get your hands on the demo we’re creating for the show—both at BlizzCon and at home with the Virtual Ticket.

What to Expect
From the beginning of this project, the team’s mission has been to be as faithful as possible to World of Warcraft as it existed back in 2005 and 2006, before Cataclysm altered the world as we knew it—and we wanted to make sure the demo we built for the show was a clear reflection of that. The focus of the demo is on outdoor questing, and we’ve selected two iconic zones that most original WoW players will no doubt be familiar with—Barrens for the Horde and Westfall for the Alliance—so you can step back in time and experience these zones as they were originally designed. You’ll be able to search for Mankrik’s wife, curse at Ornery Plainstriders for not having beaks, and make a group to kill Defias Pillagers in Moonbrook. You might even get to improvise a new rotation against the Harvest Golems in Farmer Saldean’s farm, since in this era, mechanical creatures may be immune to some of your abilities. We brought all of that back, and we’re as excited about it as you are.

Because it’s a demo, there’ll will be some limitations on the content: the Deadmines and Wailing Caverns dungeons won’t be available, the only PvP will be dueling, and you won’t be able to visit zones other than Westfall and the Barrens. We also typically limit the time our BlizzCon attendees can play a demo, and that will be the case for BlizzCon WoW Classic Demo players at home. In order to maximize the number of people who can try out the demo, initially you’ll be logged off after playing for a certain amount of time to give somebody else a turn. We haven’t determined exactly how long this time limit will be yet, but we’re also planning some flexibility, so if we’re able to relax the restriction and still give everyone who wants to play a great experience, then we’ll do that. If you do find your session has ended before you’ve done everything you wanted to, don’t worry—your character will be there when you get back in for your next session, and all your progress will be saved.

You’ll start the demo at level 15. While we know that starting at level 1 holds a lot of nostalgia, you’re also limited in what you can do when you’re first starting out. Given the time constraints of a BlizzCon demo, we wanted to give players some freedom to explore and experiment with core systems like talents or professions, which are unavailable at level 1. We also wanted you to be able to get a good sense of the original class played. At Level 15, warriors have Defensive Stance, priests have Psychic Scream, hunters have their pet, and so on—so at this level you really start to feel like your class has some of the key tools that make the class distinct. Additionally, all characters will be capped at Level 19. But you can create multiple characters, so you can try out as many different classes and races as you’d like!

What’s “New”
As we mentioned in our original Dev Watercooler blog we posted in June, we’re building WoW Classic on the foundation of our modern code base. That means you’ll be able to download the demo through the Blizzard Battle.net desktop app and use Battle.net chat integration in-game to ask your friend to come check out the Barrens with you. You’ll also find there’s improved support for widescreen monitors—so instead of the world looking stretched and distorted in widescreen, it’ll look like it did on your old 4:3 monitor. Only bigger!

All of the current game’s tools that help ensure World of Warcraft is a welcoming and fair environment, such as right-click player reporting, will also be in the BlizzCon WoW Classic Demo. Cheats, bots, and other exploitive behavior will also not be allowed, and the modern engine no longer permits some behaviors that could be used to get out of bounds. Support for 32-bit clients has also been removed. One of our core values is “Play nice; play fair,” and we want to do everything we can to ensure a few bad apples don’t ruin the experience for others.

You’ll also find that post-launch accessibility options such as colorblind mode are in the demo—though as we were working on it, we realized some words and images used in the current Accessibility panel come from the modern game. So we replaced the modern icons with some classic icons, and removed the term “Heirloom” since it doesn’t appear anywhere else in WoW Classic. It’s important to us that in situations like this we blend the old and the new in such a way that it still looks and feels like the game you remember.

See You in November!
We’re really excited about the BlizzCon WoW Classic Demo, and hope you are too! But we definitely don’t want to send the message that we’re done, because we’re not. There’s still lots of work left do, and the BlizzCon demo is an important step in the process of bringing the original WoW back to life as authentically as we can. This is a great chance for you to see the direction we’re heading and give us some early feedback, so be sure to leave your thoughts in the Classic section of the WoW forums.

Thanks for playing, and we’ll see you in Azeroth!
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  1. FelPlague's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Santti View Post
    Widescreen support? Colorblind mode? Checks in place to thwart bots from mining/herbing underground and shit?

    Literally unplayable.
    Yeah fuck this! I want it to glitch out every time i alt-tab, i want to be UNABLE TO SEE ANYTHING and i want bots EVERY 20 FEET
    This is bullshit blizz!
    /s
  1. mqrtk's Avatar
    and other exploitive behavior will also not be allowed, and the modern engine no longer permits some behaviors that could be used to get out of bounds

    So

    its not classic

    i pass
  1. Addiena's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    They have been saying this forever, it has to be on the new client, the old client was a mismatched pile of tangled web, and if you really wanted it on the old client you would be waiting atleast another year or 2.
    there will be no gameplay difference between the two, other then it running BETTER because of the optimization.
    I think you just want to invent reasons as to why you are too cheap to pay for something and rather pirate the game.
    Excuse me .. go back to the rock you crawled out from and take your baseless accusations with you.

    Benn paying and playing live servers since day one, I have zero interest in lousy bug ridden private servers and you would do well to stick a sock in your mouth before you say something that will get you banned.

    as is, im done with you and your holier than thou attitude.
  1. Aquinan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by kiramon View Post
    Haha I’m just thinking “like you can get to 19 in an hour in old barrens “
    IF you can get those damn beaks and hooves!!!!
  1. damonskye's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by riptal View Post
    What people like you seems to ignore, is that majority of people who are really excited with classic already play on private servers since many years. They know exactly what classic is. So can repeat this all the time there's no big surprise for them.
    Private servers are used by probably no more than a total of 10,000 people worldwide, and are run by volunteers.

    That's a far different thing than Blizzard getting involved and investing a significant amount of time and money into the experience. You need employees, and labor, and investment, and PROFIT, to keep a game going.

    So no, I'm not ignoring anything. You're just not looking at this as objectively as you should.
  1. FelPlague's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Addiena View Post
    Excuse me .. go back to the rock you crawled out from and take your baseless accusations with you.

    Benn paying and playing live servers since day one, I have zero interest in lousy bug ridden private servers and you would do well to stick a sock in your mouth before you say something that will get you banned.

    as is, im done with you and your holier than thou attitude.
    Yet you literally complain about them fixing exploits that break the game, and adding a colourblind mode for people who are colourblind, and widescreen for moder computers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by damonskye View Post
    Private servers are used by probably no more than a total of 10,000 people worldwide, and are run by volunteers.

    That's a far different thing than Blizzard getting involved and investing a significant amount of time and money into the experience. You need employees, and labor, and investment, and PROFIT, to keep a game going.

    So no, I'm not ignoring anything, and you're simply not thinking about this clearly.
    Alot more then that, i know some that on peak reach 10k, but how many of those are bots who knows, but they are maybe 100k max, but that is split over like 100 servers over 10 different versions of the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqrtk View Post
    and other exploitive behavior will also not be allowed, and the modern engine no longer permits some behaviors that could be used to get out of bounds

    So

    its not classic

    i pass
    It is... Except you cant cheat...
    Did you really only play classic so you could cheat and get banned? cool
  1. mqrtk's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by glowpipe View Post
    So they talk about things phased out of the game ages ago because it was simply trash game designs. Things that would be considered bugs today. And people want this over bfa and call bfa buggy ? Lapdogs. all of you.

    Classic wow is a collosal waste of resources and should NEVER happen
    oh yeah the 5 people working on it and having nothing to do with any other WoW stuff are such a colossal waste of resources
  1. damonskye's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    Alot more then that, i know some that on peak reach 10k, but how many of those are bots who knows, but they are maybe 100k max, but that is split over like 100 servers over 10 different versions of the game
    I guarantee you a hundred thousand people worldwide are not playing WoW vanilla on private servers. This is a tiny, miniscule niche of players.
  1. Austilias's Avatar
    This is troubling. I was hoping Classic WoW would be on the Classic Client/Launcher/etc.

    I want Classic WoW, not "Classic" WoW.
  1. mqrtk's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    Yet you literally complain about them fixing exploits that break the game, and adding a colourblind mode for people who are colourblind, and widescreen for moder computers...

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    Alot more then that, i know some that on peak reach 10k, but how many of those are bots who knows, but they are maybe 100k max, but that is split over like 100 servers over 10 different versions of the game

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    It is... Except you cant cheat...
    Did you really only play classic so you could cheat and get banned? cool
    walljumping is not cheating.... so shut up
  1. FelPlague's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by damonskye View Post
    I guarantee you a hundred thousand people worldwide are not playing WoW vanilla on private servers. This is a tiny, miniscule niche of players.
    Not vanilla no, but private servers, but there is 10k people playing on only 1 vanilla server, so i would say there is atleast 20-25k

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqrtk View Post
    walljumping is not cheating.... so shut up
    yes walljumping is literally cheating, so no "Shut up"
  1. ManiaCCC's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by damonskye View Post
    Private servers are used by probably no more than a total of 10,000 people worldwide, and are run by volunteers.

    That's a far different thing than Blizzard getting involved and investing a significant amount of time and money into the experience. You need employees, and labor, and investment, and PROFIT, to keep a game going.

    So no, I'm not ignoring anything. You're just not looking at this as objectively as you should.
    And here we go. Smartass, whos single argument is "I know better than people, who are excited for, they can't think clearly about it". Good, I was afraid that one will not show up in this thread..

    Look, people know why they like Vanilla WoW. And It doesn't mean there is millions and millions of people waiting for Classic, but these, who are waiting for it are indeed aware, how Vanilla wow was played.

    Of course, there are some, who will just try it, cry it is too hard and leave. But that's expected.
  1. FelPlague's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Austilias View Post
    This is troubling. I was hoping Classic WoW would be on the Classic Client/Launcher/etc.

    I want Classic WoW, not "Classic" WoW.
    If you want it on the classic client/launcher, are you really willing to wait 2 more years for it to come out?
  1. mqrtk's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    Not vanilla no, but private servers, but there is 10k people playing on only 1 vanilla server, so i would say there is atleast 20-25k

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    yes walljumping is literally cheating, so no "Shut up"
    i dont think you understand what cheating means
  1. ManiaCCC's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Austilias View Post
    This is troubling. I was hoping Classic WoW would be on the Classic Client/Launcher/etc.

    I want Classic WoW, not "Classic" WoW.
    I am just surprised people are realizing this now. This is known since last blizzcon.
  1. Hypasonic's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Austilias View Post
    This is troubling. I was hoping Classic WoW would be on the Classic Client/Launcher/etc.

    I want Classic WoW, not "Classic" WoW.
    Because typing your password in everytime was fun right? Not to mention alot easier for keyloggers.
  1. Santti's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by mqrtk View Post
    walljumping is not cheating.... so shut up
    I honestly don't think they are referring to wall jumping, but stuff like bots warping and mining/herbing underground. That kind of stuff.
  1. FelPlague's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by mqrtk View Post
    i dont think you understand what cheating means
    Yes i do, and being able to get out of bounds through unintended mechanics is literally cheating.
    They have banned people for wall jumping...
    and well as you can see they patched it out, not just once but twice now
  1. Aeula's Avatar
    No out-of-bounds exploring? What's next, no kiting mobs? This isn't even Vanilla anymore.
  1. MalfLFT's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by riptal View Post
    See you all? Cool for you! Have fun on your private server! You wont be miss… cheater!
    Lol, wall jumping is an big deal in vanilla and so much fun. Removing it is a huge fking problem

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