8.1 PTR Leveling Experience Reduced, Fifth Azerite Armor Ring Added, Raid Testing

This is very good news, and the decent thing to do. To many this might not seem significant, but this is one of the very rare instances where Blizzard reins in their greed. I hope this isn't simply to placate people after the diablo fiasco. I hope more decency is on the horizon for Blizzard, like maybe add honor, conquest, justice and valor back to the game.

Originally Posted by Sungamnori

Lol, they keep adding Azerite rings... and I keep not being able to give any fucks about farming Azerite Power to unlock them.

Thats the first ring you unlock you idiot

Originally Posted by Mishkara

Hoped they'd improve the experience of the leveling process itself instead of just buffing the XP to push you to endgame faster, and get you out of the "drag" leveling has become due to neglecting it for so long. The fact you can buy a boost is a testament from Blizzard themselves that leveling is a non enjoyable, unpolished experience that's worth a significant amount of money to skip, so you can get to the part of the game they want you to be in.

But hey maybe that's not all to it yet, but i've got the feeling it might be so. At least people who like endgame a lot will have a better time now. I'm probably just not the type of player that's being appealed to anymore. Wish they'd prove me wrong.

They made efforts to improve leveling by slowing down monster killing, etc.

That had the consequence of making leveling much slower.

They have decided that they want the leveling experience to take a similar amount of time as before, but make fighting mobs feel more dangerous.

You don't improve the leveling experience by making it take longer to get to the meat of the game. You do it by making mobs feel dangerous and rewarding to kill, and then you reduce the amt of xp required to off set that side effect.

Leveling desperately needs an Artifact-like progression tree filled with passives. A talent every tier every 15 levels doesn't cut it especially when you have access to virtually all of your abilities by the time you're level 80. Getting a small something every level would mean A LOT to the feeling of character progression and Legion-style passive abilities would make specs feel less bland without bloating the action bars.

so glad im not hurrying with leveling of races for heirloom armours must suck for people who wasted so much time

Originally Posted by Segus1992

I love how when the leveling speed nerf first came it was "they're trying to force us to buy boosts" and now when the exp required is lowered, people say "nobody's leveling" and "they're trying to hide how shitty 60-80 is". Can we as a community ever be happy about any changes?

It's not like any of that is contradictory though. If someone says that Blizzard tried to force people into buying boosts, obviously that person will think "nobody is leveling/buying boosts" when Blizzard nerfs the XP twice within a few months.

And honestly, why should the community be happy about this change? There wasn't any big call for leveling to take longer in the first place and it was not well received when they did it. If you go to someone's house and put a massive hole in a wall, then come back a few months later to put a picture frame over the hole, you can't expect the person to be grateful for it.

Just when I decided to level my first allied race. But since I'm very much bored with the end game, I'll continue leveling anyway.

This looks awesome. Especially the 50-90 levels felt really really slow. I wish they'd put this on live now.

Don't change those level requirements as they are on PTR now, and that's the first good step in a long ass time Blizzard have taken with this game.

I don't know if I'm in the minority or not, I haven't heard anyone complaining about it but I personally feel the 110-120 leveling speed is fine. I just dinged my 12th 120 last night and all but my main got to 120 via Vol'dun + Dungeons. 1-110 however I felt was needed, thanks Blizz.

Originally Posted by Queen of Hamsters

So someone died and made you an authority?

Nah, I'm just not a moron.

experienced required to level reduced

yes!!!!!!
Yesss!!!!!

Originally Posted by getupkid55

Nah, I'm just not a moron.

Hm, if you say so, color me skeptical though considering your demeanor here.

Thank you blizz!!!!

~28% or ~8,5mio xp less to 110 if someone wonders

Originally Posted by Archibalde

It's not like any of that is contradictory though. If someone says that Blizzard tried to force people into buying boosts, obviously that person will think "nobody is leveling/buying boosts" when Blizzard nerfs the XP twice within a few months.

And honestly, why should the community be happy about this change? There wasn't any big call for leveling to take longer in the first place and it was not well received when they did it. If you go to someone's house and put a massive hole in a wall, then come back a few months later to put a picture frame over the hole, you can't expect the person to be grateful for it.

They only came back and put a frame over the 25% or so of the hole. Levelling still takes way too fucking long and I doubt reducing time from 120 hrs to 80 is going to make a lot more people want to spend 2 work weeks levelling an alt.

All this really says is that boost sales have capped out and now players who used to stay subbed doing things like levelling alts are also dropping out.

They overdid it with lvl scaling, removing power and gear progression and gutting alternative paths like RAF for the people who wanted to go fast.
Level scaling was what was needed for people wanting to play through the story and who didn't care how long it took. For everyone else, it was a massive negative that needs even more reversion if they are going to continue to put more and more gimmicky allied races in the game.

Originally Posted by panalfik

Leveling desperately needs an Artifact-like progression tree filled with passives. A talent every tier every 15 levels doesn't cut it especially when you have access to virtually all of your abilities by the time you're level 80. Getting a small something every level would mean A LOT to the feeling of character progression and Legion-style passive abilities would make specs feel less bland without bloating the action bars.

This is my biggest wish.

Awesome. The leveling is fine now with the scaling but the XP requirements were a bit too much especially in the BC/Wrath area where it slows waaaaaay down.

Originally Posted by Archibalde

It's not like any of that is contradictory though. If someone says that Blizzard tried to force people into buying boosts, obviously that person will think "nobody is leveling/buying boosts" when Blizzard nerfs the XP twice within a few months.

And honestly, why should the community be happy about this change? There wasn't any big call for leveling to take longer in the first place and it was not well received when they did it. If you go to someone's house and put a massive hole in a wall, then come back a few months later to put a picture frame over the hole, you can't expect the person to be grateful for it.

It's extremely whiny first of all, always forcing the negative side of anything.

The whininess is further exemplified by your example. A hole in -your- house, and then a picture frame over it, shows that you're both very entitled (it's Blizzard's house if anything, let's say they change a hall in a museum/theme park) and whiny (if they revert a change, it isn't "hanging a picture frame over the hole", but repairing the hole/changing the hall back to what it was). I'm happy for the change, why should I be constantly looking for things to cry about?

Originally Posted by Alteiry

Thank you based Jupiter for the XP nerfs.

I second, third, and fourth this. Ah hell, might as well fifth it too