Wintergrasp Play With The Blues - Feb. 19
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
We’re coming together to test the new Wintergrasp epic battleground experience in the 8.1.5 PTR, and would love for you to join us!

On Tuesday, February 19, beginning at 2:00 p.m. Pacific time (5:00 p.m. Eastern), we’ll be queueing up for Wintergrasp. Get your PTR character(s) ready at level 120 on the Broxigar server, and then at 2:00 p.m.:

  • Open Group Finder (default hotkey: i)
  • Select the Player vs. Player tab
  • Select Quick Match
  • In the dropdown, choose “Specific Battlegrounds”
  • Select “Wintergrasp” and then hit the Join Battle button

Thank you very much, and we look forward to bombarding some frozen walls with you!

Patch 8.1.5 PTR - Build 29418
A new build is on the way.

  • Encrypted sound files for an Alpaca mount were added.


Achievement Changes
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Cooking
Professions
  • Catering for Combat Cook any combination of 50 Galley Banquets or Bountiful Captain's Feasts. 25 points. Bountiful Captain's Feasts, or Sanguinated Feasts. 25 points.



Misc Changes
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Battle Masters
  • Random Battleground - Level: 10-120. Players: 5-40. Rated players: 25. Maps: Arathi Basin, Deepwind Gorge, Eye of the Storm, Seething Shore, Silvershard Mines, Temple of Kotmogu, The Battle for Gilneas, Twin Peaks, Warsong Gulch. Warsong Gulch.
  • Random Battleground (New) - Level: 10-120. Players: 5-40. Rated players: 25. Maps: Arathi Basin, Deepwind Gorge, Eye of the Storm, Seething Shore, Silvershard Mines, Temple of Kotmogu, The Battle for Gilneas, Twin Peaks, Warsong Gulch.

Map Difficulties
  • 8.1.5 Allies - Kul Tiran Flagship (JAK) - Name changed from "8.1.5 Allies - Final Ship (JAK)" to "8.1.5 Allies - Kul Tiran Flagship (JAK)".

Maps
Battle for Azeroth
  • 8.1.5 Allies - Kul Tiran Flagship (JAK) - Name changed from "8.1.5 Allies - Final Ship (JAK)" to "8.1.5 Allies - Kul Tiran Flagship (JAK)".

Scenarios
Crucible of Storms
  • 01: Crucible of Storms (New) - Delve into the chambers beneath Stormsong Valley to uncover the source of the shadow spreading across the land.



Spell Changes
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Druid (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
Restoration
  • Master Shapeshifter Your Guardian, Balance or Feral Affinity is amplified granting an additional effect. Guardian Affinity Chance to be critically hit by melee attacks reduced by 20% 10% while in Bear Form. Balance Affinity After you enter Moonkin Form, the cast time of your Solar Wrath, Lunar Strike and Starsurge is reduced by 30% for 10 sec. Feral Affinity While in Cat Form, your damage is increased by 25%. PvP Talent. PvP Talent. Requires Druid. Requires level 40+.
  • Nourish Heals a friendly target for [ 250% of Spell Power ] and automatically applies one of your missing healing over time spells to the target. If all of them are present, Nourish critically heals. Can't be cast in Cat Form, Travel Form, Aquatic Form, Bear Form, Dire Bear Form, Moonkin Form. PvP Talent. PvP Talent. 14% 18% of Base Mana. 40 yd range. 2 sec cast. Requires Druid. Requires level 40+.

Rogue (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
Assassination
  • Mind-Numbing Poison Deadly Deadly Poison and Wound Poison will also infect the target with Mind-numbing Poison. Casting spells while under the effects of Mind-numbing Poison will cause you to take [ 6.55% of Attack Power ] Nature damage. PvP Talent. PvP Talent. Requires Rogue. Requires level 40+.
  • Neurotoxin Stabs the target with your off-hand weapon, causing [ 8.22% of Attack Power ] Nature damage, and applies a deadly neurotoxin for 10 3 sec. The neurotoxin causes any ability used to incur a 3 1 sec cooldown. Requires Daggers. PvP Talent. PvP Talent. 25 Energy. Melee range. Instant. 25 45 sec cooldown. 1 sec global cooldown. Requires Rogue. Requires level 40+.

Azerite Traits
Death Knight (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
  • Frostwhelp's Indignation Pillar of Frost summons a Frostwhelp who breathes on all enemies within 20 40 yards in front of you for 2,374 Frost damage. Each unique enemy hit by Frostwhelp's Indignation grants you 47 Mastery for 15 sec, up to 235.

Item Effects
  • Arcane Absorption Absorbs 1,800 Absorbs 7,068 arcane damage on all nearby party members. Lasts 5 min. Instant. 1 sec cooldown.
  • Custody of the Deep Taking damage has a low chance to form a protective bubble around you for 15 30 sec that absorbs 25% of incoming damage, up to 2,470. When the bubble bursts, increase your primary stat by 82 for 30 45 sec, stacking up to 3 times. Approximately 2 procs per minute.
  • Dredged Vitality Absorb 9 damage for 15 sec per 1,000 mana spent, up to 864 total absorption. Every 10,000 mana spent grants you a shield absorbing 86 damage for 8 sec, up to a maximum absorb of 864.
  • Drowning Tide While above 90% health, your attacks have a 75% health, your attacks have a high chance to send a wave crashing down on your target dealing 196 Frost damage. While below 90% 236 Frost damage. While below 75% health, your attacks have a chance to restore 296 high chance to restore 355 health. Approximately 3 procs per minute.
  • Ephemeral Vigor Your abilities have a low chance to grant you a shield, absorbing 5,548 7,757 damage for 1.5 min. While this shield persists, gain 162 195 Haste. Approximately 1 proc per minute.
  • Fire Absorption Absorbs 1,800 Absorbs 7,068 fire damage on all nearby party members. Lasts 5 min. Instant. 1 sec cooldown.
  • Focus Light Allows the holder to interact with shrines around Kul Tiras and Zandalar, focusing the light from the zone through the lens in order to create a geode of gems. Instant.
  • Frost Absorption Absorbs 1,800 Absorbs 7,068 Frost damage on all nearby party members. Lasts 5 min. Instant. 1 sec cooldown.
  • Indiscriminate Consumption (New) Feed on seven allies or enemies within 15 yards, devouring up to 608 health from each. You are healed for 200% of damage dealt. Limited to 30 targets. 40 yd range. Instant. 60 sec cooldown.
  • Insidious Gift Name changed from "N'zoth's Gift" to "Insidious Gift".
  • Insidious Gift Name changed from "N'zoth's Gift" to "Insidious Gift".
  • Khaz'gorian Hammer - Aura (DNT) Name changed from "Khaz'gorian Hammer - Aura" to "Khaz'gorian Hammer - Aura (DNT)".
  • Mariner's Ward Name changed from "Oceanic Ward" to "Mariner's Ward". Place an oceanic Place a ward on your target for 60 sec 1.5 min. Taking 2,795 damage in a single blow will consume the ward, healing the target for 2,795. 40 yd range. Instant. 40 sec cooldown.
  • Nature Absorption Absorbs 463,020 Absorbs 7,068 nature damage on all nearby party members. Lasts 5 min. Instant. 1 sec cooldown.
  • Oblivion Spear Your damaging abilities have a chance to launch an oblivion spear at your target, inflicting 649 757 Shadow damage. On impact, the spear will detonate towards you. You will suffer 325 Shadow damage shatter towards you. You will be silenced for 0.5 sec if struck. 40 yd range. Approximately 1.5 procs per minute.
  • Phantom Pain Falling below 25% health instantly restores 2,469 health. You then take 2,469 3,455 health. You then take 3,455 Shadow damage over 10 sec. This effect can only occur once every three minutes. 3 min cooldown.
  • Polishing Polish the stone. 2 sec cast. 1.5 sec cast.
  • Re-enchanting Consume 1 Veiled Crystal to animate an inert golem. 7 yd range. 3.5 sec cast. 30 min cooldown.Reagents: Veiled Crystal.
  • Scouring Wake Slaying an aberration inspires 5 nearby 4 allies, granting 60 Critical Strike for 30 sec. 20 sec.
  • Shadow Absorption Absorbs 1,800 Absorbs 7,068 shadow damage on all nearby party members. Lasts 5 min. Instant. 1 sec cooldown.
  • Shadow Sight Put on the goggles to search for any suspicious shadowy creatures within the Brawler's Guild. You must be inside the arena to use the goggles. Instant. 1.5 sec cooldown. 1 sec cast. 1.5 sec cooldown.
  • Silas' Sphere of Transmutation (DNT) Name changed from "Silus' Sphere of Transmutation" to "Silas' Sphere of Transmutation (DNT)". Highlights and allows the player to interact with various cauldrons on Kul Tiras and Zandalar. Instant.
  • Spiteful Binding While above 90% health, your attacks have a very high chance to deal an additional 143 Shadow damage to you and your target. Approximately 6 procs per minute.
  • Storm Nimbus (New) While above 60% health, your damaging abilities have a low chance to bolt your target dealing 709 Nature damage. While below 60% health, your damaging abilities have a low chance to restore 1,062 health over 10 sec. Approximately 1 proc per minute.
  • Thorns Dmg +1 When struck in combat inflicts 1 104 Arcane damage to the attacker. Rank 1. Rank 1.
  • Unbound Anguish If your target has a lower health percentage than you, your damaging spells and abilities have a chance to sacrifice 86 abilities have a high chance to sacrifice 103 of your health to deal an additional 171 206 Shadow damage. Approximately 4 procs per minute.
  • Undying Pact Tether yourself to up to 5 allies within 15 yards. After 6 20 yards. After 5.9 sec, you are healed for 15% 20% of the health restored to tethered allies, up to 1,974 3,455 total healing. 50 yd range. Instant. 2 min cooldown. 1.5 min cooldown.
  • Untouchable Your auto attacks have a chance to grant Untouchable for 15 sec, stacking up to 15 times. Untouchable grants 11 Critical Strike. Taking any damage removes all stacks of Untouchable.
  • Void Embrace Open a fissure to the void beneath you for 15 12 sec, increasing your Haste by 903. You will suffer 13,792 Shadow damage if you leave the fissure. Instant. 2 min cooldown. 451. Moving out of the fissure will cause it to collapse, dealing 13,792 Shadow damage to you. Instant. 60 sec cooldown.
  • Warlords Timewalking Marker (New) Instant.
  • Weapon Damage +5 Weapon Damage. +47 Weapon Damage.
  • Weapon Damage +3 Weapon Damage. +41 Weapon Damage.

Professions
Alchemy
  • Silas' Sphere of Transmutation Craft Silas' Sphere of Transmutation. Alchemy. Alchemy. 1.5 sec cast. Reagents: Akunda's Bite x 30, Winter's Kiss x 30, Anchor Weed x 20, Expulsom x 15, Tidalcore x 20. 5 sec cast. Reagents: Purposefully Potent Potion, Sphere of Sangaurum, Extremely Precise Vial, Sly Rogue's Decanter, Anchor Weed x 50, Mystical Cauldron, Expulsom x 10.

Blacksmithing
  • Khaz'gorian Smithing Hammer Create a Khaz'gorian Hammer. Blacksmithing. Blacksmithing. 2 sec cast. Reagents: Monelite Ore x 5. Titan's Blood x 30, Precision Blessing Tools, Azerokk's Fist, Storm Silver Ore x 25, Platinum Ore x 15, Expulsom x 10.

Enchanting
  • Iwen's Enchanting Rod Create Iwen's Enchanting Rod. Enchanting. Enchanting. 2 sec cast. Reagents: Star Wood, Gloom Dust x 40, Veiled Crystal x 5, Expulsom x 30, Hydrocore. Grasping Wicker Arm, Runestone of Thros, Lingering Drust Essence x 50, Umbra Shard x 25, Veiled Crystal x 15, Expulsom x 10.

Engineering
  • The Ub3r-Spanner Create The Ub3r-Spanner! Engineering. Engineering. 10 sec cast. Reagents: Platinum Ore x 20, Storm Silver Ore x 50, Insulated Wiring x 20, Expulsom x 25, Hydrocore x 3. Coin Return Flipper, Static Induction Matrix, Miniaturized Power Core x 2, Insulated Wiring x 50, Storm Silver Ore x 15, Platinum Ore x 10, Expulsom.
  • Ub3r-Module: Short-Fused Bomb Bots Create an Ub3r Module: Short-Fused Boom Bots. Engineering. Engineering. Instant. Reagents: Monelite Ore.x 5, Storm Silver Ore x 2, Insulated Wiring x 15, Chemical Blasting Cap x 10.
  • Ub3r-Module: Ub3r S3ntry Mk. X8.0 Create an Ub3r Module: Ub3r S3ntry MK X8.0. Engineering. Engineering. Instant. Reagents: Monelite Ore.x 10, Storm Silver Ore x 5, Insulated Wiring x 10, Chemical Blasting Cap x 2.
  • Ub3r-Module: Ub3r-Improved Target Dummy Create an Ub3r Module: Ub3r-Improved Target Dummy. Engineering. Engineering. Instant. Reagents: Monelite Ore.x 5, Storm Silver Ore x 2, Insulated Wiring x 5.

Inscription
  • Blood Contract: Bloodguard Summon an Avatar of the Bloodguard to fight by your side while outdoors for 4 hrs. Inscription. Inscription. 100 yd range. 3 sec cast. Reagents: Light Parchment, Sallow Pigment x 24, Roseate Pigment x 50, Felwort. Crimson Ink x 10, Viridescent Ink x 5, Distilled Water x 5.
  • Blood Contract: Bloodshed Summon an Avatar of Bloodshed to fight by your side while outdoors for 4 hrs. Inscription. Inscription. 100 yd range. 3 sec cast. Reagents: Light Parchment, Sallow Pigment x 24, Roseate Pigment x 50, Felwort. Crimson Ink x 10, Viridescent Ink x 5, Distilled Water x 5.
  • Blood Contract: Oblivion Summon an Avatar of Oblivion to fight by your side while outdoors for 4 hrs. Inscription. Inscription. 100 yd range. 3 sec cast. Reagents: Light Parchment, Sallow Pigment x 24, Roseate Pigment x 50, Felwort. Crimson Ink x 10, Viridescent Ink x 5, Distilled Water x 5.
  • Blood Contract: Sacrifice Summon an Avatar of Sacrifice to heal by your side while outdoors for 4 hrs. Inscription. Inscription. 100 yd range. 3 sec cast. Reagents: Light Parchment, Sallow Pigment x 24, Roseate Pigment x 50, Felwort. Crimson Ink x 10, Viridescent Ink x 5, Distilled Water x 5.
  • Sanguine Feather Quill of Lana'thel Craft a Sanguine Feather Quill of Lana'thel. Inscription. Inscription. 1.5 sec cast. Reagents: Light Parchment, Sallow Pigment x 10, Roseate Pigment x 30. Gilded Plume, Ancient Blood Pigment, Coagulated Miasma x 50, Crimson Ink x 50, Viridescent Ink x 15, Expulsom x 10.
  • Vantus Rune: Crucible of Storms Craft a Vantus Rune: Crucible of Storms. Inscription. Inscription. 1.5 sec cast. Reagents: Light Parchment, Ultramarine Ink x 30, Viridescent Ink x 10.
  • Vantus Rune: Crucible of Storms Greatly reduce the materials required to craft a Vantus Rune: Crucible of Storms. Inscription. Inscription. 1.5 sec cast. Reagents: Light Parchment, Ultramarine Ink x 25, Viridescent Ink x 6.
  • Vantus Rune: Crucible of Storms Reduce the materials required to craft a Vantus Rune: Crucible of Storms. Inscription. Inscription. 1.5 sec cast. Reagents: Light Parchment, Ultramarine Ink x 28, Viridescent Ink x 8.

Jewelcrafting
  • Jewelhammer's Focus Cut a focusing lens. Jewelcrafting. Jewelcrafting. 1.5 sec cast. Reagents: Kyanite. Sweete's Diamond-Studded Spyglass, Unrefined Azerite Geode, Fine Azerite Powder x 50, Kraken's Eye x 10, Expulsom x 10.

Leatherworking
  • Mallet of Thunderous Skins Create a Mallet of Thunderous Skins. Leatherworking. Leatherworking. 3 sec cast. Reagents: Coarse Leather x 5. Long Regal Sinew x 4, Spirit of the Bested x 15, Blood-Stained Bone x 50, Tempest Hide x 50, Hardened Tempest Hide x 25, Expulsom x 10.

Tailoring
  • Synchronous Thread Create Synchronous Thread. Tailoring. Tailoring. 2 sec cast. Reagents: Monelite Ore x 5. Essence of the Troll Dynasty, Essence of the Regal Loa, Essence of the Depths, Essence of the Sands, Tidespray Linen x 100, Nylon Thread x 100, Expulsom x 10.



String Changes
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
  • ABILITY_INFO_KULTIRAN4 - - All tradeskill skills increased. - Skill in all professions increased.
  • CLUB_FINDER_GUILD_RECRUITING (New) - This guild is looking for %s. Which specializations do you play?
  • CLUB_FINDER_RECRUITING_FOUR_SPECS (New) - This guild is looking for %s, %s, %s, and %s %s. Which specializations do you play?
  • CLUB_FINDER_RECRUITING_NOTE (New) - Optional note to the guild leader
  • CLUB_FINDER_RECRUITING_ONE_SPEC (New) - This guild is looking for %s %s. Which specializations do you play?
  • CLUB_FINDER_RECRUITING_THREE_SPECS (New) - This guild is looking for %s, %s, and %s %s. Which specializations do you play?
  • CLUB_FINDER_RECRUITING_TWO_SPECS (New) - This guild is looking for %s and %s %s. Which specializations do you play?
  • RACE_INFO_KULTIRAN (New) - Kul Tiras was founded by fearless explorers who sailed uncharted waters in search of adventure. As a key member of the Alliance of Lordaeron, the Kul Tiran navy dominated the seas of Azeroth with its legendary fleet.
  • RACE_INFO_KULTIRAN_FEMALE (New) - Kul Tiras was founded by fearless explorers who sailed uncharted waters in search of adventure. As a key member of the Alliance of Lordaeron, the Kul Tiran navy dominated the seas of Azeroth with its legendary fleet.
  • RACE_INFO_ZANDALARITROLL - Descended from the first troll tribes, the Zandalari are an ancient kingdom steeped in ritual and superstition. Their warriors ride mighty The Zandalari are a proud people whose origins date back to the early days of Azeroth's history. Their fierce warriors ride dinosaurs into battle, and they possess one of the most formidable fleets in the known world. But as enemies encroach upon the borders of Zuldazar, unrest within the king's council threatens to topple the empire. If the heroes of the Horde can return stability to Zandalar, they would gain a powerful new ally. naval fleets in the known world.
  • RACE_INFO_ZANDALARITROLL_FEMALE - Descended from the first troll tribes, the Zandalari are an ancient kingdom steeped in ritual and superstition. Their warriors ride mighty The Zandalari are a proud people whose origins date back to the early days of Azeroth's history. Their fierce warriors ride dinosaurs into battle, and they possess one of the most formidable fleets in the known world. But as enemies encroach upon the borders of Zuldazar, unrest within the king's council threatens to topple the empire. If the heroes of the Horde can return stability to Zandalar, they would gain a powerful new ally. naval fleets in the known world.
  • WAYPOINT_OBJECTIVE_FORMAT (New) - 0/1 %s
  • WAYPOINT_OBJECTIVE_FORMAT_OPTIONAL (New) - 0/1 %s (Optional)
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Comments 38 Comments
  1. SinR's Avatar
    Anyone else thinking Alpaca Mount could be for Vulpera for when they go on the Blizzard Store as the first buyable Allied Race?
  1. Kemsa's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by SinR View Post
    Anyone else thinking Alpaca Mount could be for Vulpera for when they go on the Blizzard Store as the first buyable Allied Race?
    Hey dont scare the children D: ..... THINK OF THE CHILDREN
  1. SinR's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Gulantik View Post
    Wow. Don't even joke about that. That made me sick to my core.
    I'm not even joking.

    Activision knows that WoW players are Furries.

    Furries love Vulpera.

    not hard to do the math on this one. the Profit Potential is like... off the charts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kemsa View Post
    Hey dont scare the children D: ..... THINK OF THE CHILDREN
    Children borrow Mom's credit card and buy them off the Blizzard Store
  1. Lanrefni's Avatar
    Queue-able Wintergrasp will have me running bg's pretty much instantly.
  1. Nuvuk's Avatar
    I wonder what the changes will be, I loved how broken wg was at start.
  1. Nyahr's Avatar
    Maybe if some idiot uses the multi-person report exploit against a Blizzard employee in that Wintergrasp mode they'll actually do something about it. Not like it's been an issue for years or anything lol.
    (No, I'm not wanting someone to do it, but let's be real, someone probably will.)
  1. Teucer's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by SinR View Post
    I'm not even joking.

    Activision knows that WoW players are Furries.

    Furries love Vulpera.

    not hard to do the math on this one. the Profit Potential is like... off the charts.

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    Children borrow Mom's credit card and buy them off the Blizzard Store
    And for the non furries, just make the racials OP
  1. SinR's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Teucer View Post
    And for the non furries, just make the racials OP
    "Desert's Fortune: Once every 24 hours reach into the ground and pull out a Mythic Quality piece of Raid Gear. Cannot be used if all gear is Mythic Quality raid gear."
  1. Daevied's Avatar
    So, the bee mount.... when?
  1. SinR's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Daevied View Post
    So, the bee mount.... when?
    Blizzard Store mount for March 2019. Spring themed Microtransactions!
  1. Psygon's Avatar
    Winnnergrasp doesn’t need testing. It’s old content.

    Bunch of morons over there. Why would we want toplay with morons?
  1. Daedius's Avatar
    Took so long for Wintergrasp to be made a BG...
  1. Kalarm's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by SinR View Post
    Blizzard Store mount for March 2019. Spring themed Microtransactions!
    I think they did say the bee mount was alliance side. I remember mentioning it when people complained about the alliance rep mounts all being horses. It seemed like the horde has the cooler ground mount but alliance have some pretty cool flying mounts rewards coming up when they let us fly in BFA content.
  1. Dellis0991's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by SinR View Post
    Anyone else thinking Alpaca Mount could be for Vulpera for when they go on the Blizzard Store as the first buyable Allied Race?
    That made me feel uneasy.
  1. SinR's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Dellis0991 View Post
    That made me feel uneasy.
    The Outrage will be huge.

    Bigly.

    Yuge.
  1. FelPlague's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyahr View Post
    Maybe if some idiot uses the multi-person report exploit against a Blizzard employee in that Wintergrasp mode they'll actually do something about it. Not like it's been an issue for years or anything lol.
    (No, I'm not wanting someone to do it, but let's be real, someone probably will.)
    and do what? get the gm silenced for a few hours? ooook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daevied View Post
    So, the bee mount.... when?
    8.2 along side robo parrot and many others.
  1. Eleccybubb's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by SinR View Post
    Blizzard Store mount for March 2019. Spring themed Microtransactions!
    Nah. They'll just cause an even bigger mess and make the bee mount the store one.
  1. dhru2's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyahr View Post
    Maybe if some idiot uses the multi-person report exploit against a Blizzard employee in that Wintergrasp mode they'll actually do something about it.
    Make a discord, get people for it. JUST DO IT! Live stream it on a fake account!

    This has to happen. They fired the real people we have to show them automated ban system has no place here!
  1. FelPlague's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by dhru2 View Post
    Make a discord, get people for it. JUST DO IT! Live stream it on a fake account!

    This has to happen. They fired the real people we have to show them automated ban system has no place here!
    there is no such thing as an automated ban system.
  1. Lumineus's Avatar
    Pillar of Frost summons a Frostwhelp who breathes on all enemies within 20 40 yards
    Uh, what? DKs with this trait are annoying enough in instances already. Should be reduced to 15, 12, or even 10, not increased to 40.

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