Wintergrasp Play With The Blues - Feb. 19
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
We’re coming together to test the new Wintergrasp epic battleground experience in the 8.1.5 PTR, and would love for you to join us!

On Tuesday, February 19, beginning at 2:00 p.m. Pacific time (5:00 p.m. Eastern), we’ll be queueing up for Wintergrasp. Get your PTR character(s) ready at level 120 on the Broxigar server, and then at 2:00 p.m.:

  • Open Group Finder (default hotkey: i)
  • Select the Player vs. Player tab
  • Select Quick Match
  • In the dropdown, choose “Specific Battlegrounds”
  • Select “Wintergrasp” and then hit the Join Battle button

Thank you very much, and we look forward to bombarding some frozen walls with you!

Patch 8.1.5 PTR - Build 29418
A new build is on the way.

  • Encrypted sound files for an Alpaca mount were added.


Achievement Changes
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Cooking
Professions
  • Catering for Combat Cook any combination of 50 Galley Banquets or Bountiful Captain's Feasts. 25 points. Bountiful Captain's Feasts, or Sanguinated Feasts. 25 points.



Misc Changes
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Battle Masters
  • Random Battleground - Level: 10-120. Players: 5-40. Rated players: 25. Maps: Arathi Basin, Deepwind Gorge, Eye of the Storm, Seething Shore, Silvershard Mines, Temple of Kotmogu, The Battle for Gilneas, Twin Peaks, Warsong Gulch. Warsong Gulch.
  • Random Battleground (New) - Level: 10-120. Players: 5-40. Rated players: 25. Maps: Arathi Basin, Deepwind Gorge, Eye of the Storm, Seething Shore, Silvershard Mines, Temple of Kotmogu, The Battle for Gilneas, Twin Peaks, Warsong Gulch.

Map Difficulties
  • 8.1.5 Allies - Kul Tiran Flagship (JAK) - Name changed from "8.1.5 Allies - Final Ship (JAK)" to "8.1.5 Allies - Kul Tiran Flagship (JAK)".

Maps
Battle for Azeroth
  • 8.1.5 Allies - Kul Tiran Flagship (JAK) - Name changed from "8.1.5 Allies - Final Ship (JAK)" to "8.1.5 Allies - Kul Tiran Flagship (JAK)".

Scenarios
Crucible of Storms
  • 01: Crucible of Storms (New) - Delve into the chambers beneath Stormsong Valley to uncover the source of the shadow spreading across the land.



Spell Changes
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Druid (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
Restoration
  • Master Shapeshifter Your Guardian, Balance or Feral Affinity is amplified granting an additional effect. Guardian Affinity Chance to be critically hit by melee attacks reduced by 20% 10% while in Bear Form. Balance Affinity After you enter Moonkin Form, the cast time of your Solar Wrath, Lunar Strike and Starsurge is reduced by 30% for 10 sec. Feral Affinity While in Cat Form, your damage is increased by 25%. PvP Talent. PvP Talent. Requires Druid. Requires level 40+.
  • Nourish Heals a friendly target for [ 250% of Spell Power ] and automatically applies one of your missing healing over time spells to the target. If all of them are present, Nourish critically heals. Can't be cast in Cat Form, Travel Form, Aquatic Form, Bear Form, Dire Bear Form, Moonkin Form. PvP Talent. PvP Talent. 14% 18% of Base Mana. 40 yd range. 2 sec cast. Requires Druid. Requires level 40+.

Rogue (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
Assassination
  • Mind-Numbing Poison Deadly Deadly Poison and Wound Poison will also infect the target with Mind-numbing Poison. Casting spells while under the effects of Mind-numbing Poison will cause you to take [ 6.55% of Attack Power ] Nature damage. PvP Talent. PvP Talent. Requires Rogue. Requires level 40+.
  • Neurotoxin Stabs the target with your off-hand weapon, causing [ 8.22% of Attack Power ] Nature damage, and applies a deadly neurotoxin for 10 3 sec. The neurotoxin causes any ability used to incur a 3 1 sec cooldown. Requires Daggers. PvP Talent. PvP Talent. 25 Energy. Melee range. Instant. 25 45 sec cooldown. 1 sec global cooldown. Requires Rogue. Requires level 40+.

Azerite Traits
Death Knight (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
  • Frostwhelp's Indignation Pillar of Frost summons a Frostwhelp who breathes on all enemies within 20 40 yards in front of you for 2,374 Frost damage. Each unique enemy hit by Frostwhelp's Indignation grants you 47 Mastery for 15 sec, up to 235.

Item Effects
  • Arcane Absorption Absorbs 1,800 Absorbs 7,068 arcane damage on all nearby party members. Lasts 5 min. Instant. 1 sec cooldown.
  • Custody of the Deep Taking damage has a low chance to form a protective bubble around you for 15 30 sec that absorbs 25% of incoming damage, up to 2,470. When the bubble bursts, increase your primary stat by 82 for 30 45 sec, stacking up to 3 times. Approximately 2 procs per minute.
  • Dredged Vitality Absorb 9 damage for 15 sec per 1,000 mana spent, up to 864 total absorption. Every 10,000 mana spent grants you a shield absorbing 86 damage for 8 sec, up to a maximum absorb of 864.
  • Drowning Tide While above 90% health, your attacks have a 75% health, your attacks have a high chance to send a wave crashing down on your target dealing 196 Frost damage. While below 90% 236 Frost damage. While below 75% health, your attacks have a chance to restore 296 high chance to restore 355 health. Approximately 3 procs per minute.
  • Ephemeral Vigor Your abilities have a low chance to grant you a shield, absorbing 5,548 7,757 damage for 1.5 min. While this shield persists, gain 162 195 Haste. Approximately 1 proc per minute.
  • Fire Absorption Absorbs 1,800 Absorbs 7,068 fire damage on all nearby party members. Lasts 5 min. Instant. 1 sec cooldown.
  • Focus Light Allows the holder to interact with shrines around Kul Tiras and Zandalar, focusing the light from the zone through the lens in order to create a geode of gems. Instant.
  • Frost Absorption Absorbs 1,800 Absorbs 7,068 Frost damage on all nearby party members. Lasts 5 min. Instant. 1 sec cooldown.
  • Indiscriminate Consumption (New) Feed on seven allies or enemies within 15 yards, devouring up to 608 health from each. You are healed for 200% of damage dealt. Limited to 30 targets. 40 yd range. Instant. 60 sec cooldown.
  • Insidious Gift Name changed from "N'zoth's Gift" to "Insidious Gift".
  • Insidious Gift Name changed from "N'zoth's Gift" to "Insidious Gift".
  • Khaz'gorian Hammer - Aura (DNT) Name changed from "Khaz'gorian Hammer - Aura" to "Khaz'gorian Hammer - Aura (DNT)".
  • Mariner's Ward Name changed from "Oceanic Ward" to "Mariner's Ward". Place an oceanic Place a ward on your target for 60 sec 1.5 min. Taking 2,795 damage in a single blow will consume the ward, healing the target for 2,795. 40 yd range. Instant. 40 sec cooldown.
  • Nature Absorption Absorbs 463,020 Absorbs 7,068 nature damage on all nearby party members. Lasts 5 min. Instant. 1 sec cooldown.
  • Oblivion Spear Your damaging abilities have a chance to launch an oblivion spear at your target, inflicting 649 757 Shadow damage. On impact, the spear will detonate towards you. You will suffer 325 Shadow damage shatter towards you. You will be silenced for 0.5 sec if struck. 40 yd range. Approximately 1.5 procs per minute.
  • Phantom Pain Falling below 25% health instantly restores 2,469 health. You then take 2,469 3,455 health. You then take 3,455 Shadow damage over 10 sec. This effect can only occur once every three minutes. 3 min cooldown.
  • Polishing Polish the stone. 2 sec cast. 1.5 sec cast.
  • Re-enchanting Consume 1 Veiled Crystal to animate an inert golem. 7 yd range. 3.5 sec cast. 30 min cooldown.Reagents: Veiled Crystal.
  • Scouring Wake Slaying an aberration inspires 5 nearby 4 allies, granting 60 Critical Strike for 30 sec. 20 sec.
  • Shadow Absorption Absorbs 1,800 Absorbs 7,068 shadow damage on all nearby party members. Lasts 5 min. Instant. 1 sec cooldown.
  • Shadow Sight Put on the goggles to search for any suspicious shadowy creatures within the Brawler's Guild. You must be inside the arena to use the goggles. Instant. 1.5 sec cooldown. 1 sec cast. 1.5 sec cooldown.
  • Silas' Sphere of Transmutation (DNT) Name changed from "Silus' Sphere of Transmutation" to "Silas' Sphere of Transmutation (DNT)". Highlights and allows the player to interact with various cauldrons on Kul Tiras and Zandalar. Instant.
  • Spiteful Binding While above 90% health, your attacks have a very high chance to deal an additional 143 Shadow damage to you and your target. Approximately 6 procs per minute.
  • Storm Nimbus (New) While above 60% health, your damaging abilities have a low chance to bolt your target dealing 709 Nature damage. While below 60% health, your damaging abilities have a low chance to restore 1,062 health over 10 sec. Approximately 1 proc per minute.
  • Thorns Dmg +1 When struck in combat inflicts 1 104 Arcane damage to the attacker. Rank 1. Rank 1.
  • Unbound Anguish If your target has a lower health percentage than you, your damaging spells and abilities have a chance to sacrifice 86 abilities have a high chance to sacrifice 103 of your health to deal an additional 171 206 Shadow damage. Approximately 4 procs per minute.
  • Undying Pact Tether yourself to up to 5 allies within 15 yards. After 6 20 yards. After 5.9 sec, you are healed for 15% 20% of the health restored to tethered allies, up to 1,974 3,455 total healing. 50 yd range. Instant. 2 min cooldown. 1.5 min cooldown.
  • Untouchable Your auto attacks have a chance to grant Untouchable for 15 sec, stacking up to 15 times. Untouchable grants 11 Critical Strike. Taking any damage removes all stacks of Untouchable.
  • Void Embrace Open a fissure to the void beneath you for 15 12 sec, increasing your Haste by 903. You will suffer 13,792 Shadow damage if you leave the fissure. Instant. 2 min cooldown. 451. Moving out of the fissure will cause it to collapse, dealing 13,792 Shadow damage to you. Instant. 60 sec cooldown.
  • Warlords Timewalking Marker (New) Instant.
  • Weapon Damage +5 Weapon Damage. +47 Weapon Damage.
  • Weapon Damage +3 Weapon Damage. +41 Weapon Damage.

Professions
Alchemy
  • Silas' Sphere of Transmutation Craft Silas' Sphere of Transmutation. Alchemy. Alchemy. 1.5 sec cast. Reagents: Akunda's Bite x 30, Winter's Kiss x 30, Anchor Weed x 20, Expulsom x 15, Tidalcore x 20. 5 sec cast. Reagents: Purposefully Potent Potion, Sphere of Sangaurum, Extremely Precise Vial, Sly Rogue's Decanter, Anchor Weed x 50, Mystical Cauldron, Expulsom x 10.

Blacksmithing
  • Khaz'gorian Smithing Hammer Create a Khaz'gorian Hammer. Blacksmithing. Blacksmithing. 2 sec cast. Reagents: Monelite Ore x 5. Titan's Blood x 30, Precision Blessing Tools, Azerokk's Fist, Storm Silver Ore x 25, Platinum Ore x 15, Expulsom x 10.

Enchanting
  • Iwen's Enchanting Rod Create Iwen's Enchanting Rod. Enchanting. Enchanting. 2 sec cast. Reagents: Star Wood, Gloom Dust x 40, Veiled Crystal x 5, Expulsom x 30, Hydrocore. Grasping Wicker Arm, Runestone of Thros, Lingering Drust Essence x 50, Umbra Shard x 25, Veiled Crystal x 15, Expulsom x 10.

Engineering
  • The Ub3r-Spanner Create The Ub3r-Spanner! Engineering. Engineering. 10 sec cast. Reagents: Platinum Ore x 20, Storm Silver Ore x 50, Insulated Wiring x 20, Expulsom x 25, Hydrocore x 3. Coin Return Flipper, Static Induction Matrix, Miniaturized Power Core x 2, Insulated Wiring x 50, Storm Silver Ore x 15, Platinum Ore x 10, Expulsom.
  • Ub3r-Module: Short-Fused Bomb Bots Create an Ub3r Module: Short-Fused Boom Bots. Engineering. Engineering. Instant. Reagents: Monelite Ore.x 5, Storm Silver Ore x 2, Insulated Wiring x 15, Chemical Blasting Cap x 10.
  • Ub3r-Module: Ub3r S3ntry Mk. X8.0 Create an Ub3r Module: Ub3r S3ntry MK X8.0. Engineering. Engineering. Instant. Reagents: Monelite Ore.x 10, Storm Silver Ore x 5, Insulated Wiring x 10, Chemical Blasting Cap x 2.
  • Ub3r-Module: Ub3r-Improved Target Dummy Create an Ub3r Module: Ub3r-Improved Target Dummy. Engineering. Engineering. Instant. Reagents: Monelite Ore.x 5, Storm Silver Ore x 2, Insulated Wiring x 5.

Inscription
  • Blood Contract: Bloodguard Summon an Avatar of the Bloodguard to fight by your side while outdoors for 4 hrs. Inscription. Inscription. 100 yd range. 3 sec cast. Reagents: Light Parchment, Sallow Pigment x 24, Roseate Pigment x 50, Felwort. Crimson Ink x 10, Viridescent Ink x 5, Distilled Water x 5.
  • Blood Contract: Bloodshed Summon an Avatar of Bloodshed to fight by your side while outdoors for 4 hrs. Inscription. Inscription. 100 yd range. 3 sec cast. Reagents: Light Parchment, Sallow Pigment x 24, Roseate Pigment x 50, Felwort. Crimson Ink x 10, Viridescent Ink x 5, Distilled Water x 5.
  • Blood Contract: Oblivion Summon an Avatar of Oblivion to fight by your side while outdoors for 4 hrs. Inscription. Inscription. 100 yd range. 3 sec cast. Reagents: Light Parchment, Sallow Pigment x 24, Roseate Pigment x 50, Felwort. Crimson Ink x 10, Viridescent Ink x 5, Distilled Water x 5.
  • Blood Contract: Sacrifice Summon an Avatar of Sacrifice to heal by your side while outdoors for 4 hrs. Inscription. Inscription. 100 yd range. 3 sec cast. Reagents: Light Parchment, Sallow Pigment x 24, Roseate Pigment x 50, Felwort. Crimson Ink x 10, Viridescent Ink x 5, Distilled Water x 5.
  • Sanguine Feather Quill of Lana'thel Craft a Sanguine Feather Quill of Lana'thel. Inscription. Inscription. 1.5 sec cast. Reagents: Light Parchment, Sallow Pigment x 10, Roseate Pigment x 30. Gilded Plume, Ancient Blood Pigment, Coagulated Miasma x 50, Crimson Ink x 50, Viridescent Ink x 15, Expulsom x 10.
  • Vantus Rune: Crucible of Storms Craft a Vantus Rune: Crucible of Storms. Inscription. Inscription. 1.5 sec cast. Reagents: Light Parchment, Ultramarine Ink x 30, Viridescent Ink x 10.
  • Vantus Rune: Crucible of Storms Greatly reduce the materials required to craft a Vantus Rune: Crucible of Storms. Inscription. Inscription. 1.5 sec cast. Reagents: Light Parchment, Ultramarine Ink x 25, Viridescent Ink x 6.
  • Vantus Rune: Crucible of Storms Reduce the materials required to craft a Vantus Rune: Crucible of Storms. Inscription. Inscription. 1.5 sec cast. Reagents: Light Parchment, Ultramarine Ink x 28, Viridescent Ink x 8.

Jewelcrafting
  • Jewelhammer's Focus Cut a focusing lens. Jewelcrafting. Jewelcrafting. 1.5 sec cast. Reagents: Kyanite. Sweete's Diamond-Studded Spyglass, Unrefined Azerite Geode, Fine Azerite Powder x 50, Kraken's Eye x 10, Expulsom x 10.

Leatherworking
  • Mallet of Thunderous Skins Create a Mallet of Thunderous Skins. Leatherworking. Leatherworking. 3 sec cast. Reagents: Coarse Leather x 5. Long Regal Sinew x 4, Spirit of the Bested x 15, Blood-Stained Bone x 50, Tempest Hide x 50, Hardened Tempest Hide x 25, Expulsom x 10.

Tailoring
  • Synchronous Thread Create Synchronous Thread. Tailoring. Tailoring. 2 sec cast. Reagents: Monelite Ore x 5. Essence of the Troll Dynasty, Essence of the Regal Loa, Essence of the Depths, Essence of the Sands, Tidespray Linen x 100, Nylon Thread x 100, Expulsom x 10.



String Changes
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
  • ABILITY_INFO_KULTIRAN4 - - All tradeskill skills increased. - Skill in all professions increased.
  • CLUB_FINDER_GUILD_RECRUITING (New) - This guild is looking for %s. Which specializations do you play?
  • CLUB_FINDER_RECRUITING_FOUR_SPECS (New) - This guild is looking for %s, %s, %s, and %s %s. Which specializations do you play?
  • CLUB_FINDER_RECRUITING_NOTE (New) - Optional note to the guild leader
  • CLUB_FINDER_RECRUITING_ONE_SPEC (New) - This guild is looking for %s %s. Which specializations do you play?
  • CLUB_FINDER_RECRUITING_THREE_SPECS (New) - This guild is looking for %s, %s, and %s %s. Which specializations do you play?
  • CLUB_FINDER_RECRUITING_TWO_SPECS (New) - This guild is looking for %s and %s %s. Which specializations do you play?
  • RACE_INFO_KULTIRAN (New) - Kul Tiras was founded by fearless explorers who sailed uncharted waters in search of adventure. As a key member of the Alliance of Lordaeron, the Kul Tiran navy dominated the seas of Azeroth with its legendary fleet.
  • RACE_INFO_KULTIRAN_FEMALE (New) - Kul Tiras was founded by fearless explorers who sailed uncharted waters in search of adventure. As a key member of the Alliance of Lordaeron, the Kul Tiran navy dominated the seas of Azeroth with its legendary fleet.
  • RACE_INFO_ZANDALARITROLL - Descended from the first troll tribes, the Zandalari are an ancient kingdom steeped in ritual and superstition. Their warriors ride mighty The Zandalari are a proud people whose origins date back to the early days of Azeroth's history. Their fierce warriors ride dinosaurs into battle, and they possess one of the most formidable fleets in the known world. But as enemies encroach upon the borders of Zuldazar, unrest within the king's council threatens to topple the empire. If the heroes of the Horde can return stability to Zandalar, they would gain a powerful new ally. naval fleets in the known world.
  • RACE_INFO_ZANDALARITROLL_FEMALE - Descended from the first troll tribes, the Zandalari are an ancient kingdom steeped in ritual and superstition. Their warriors ride mighty The Zandalari are a proud people whose origins date back to the early days of Azeroth's history. Their fierce warriors ride dinosaurs into battle, and they possess one of the most formidable fleets in the known world. But as enemies encroach upon the borders of Zuldazar, unrest within the king's council threatens to topple the empire. If the heroes of the Horde can return stability to Zandalar, they would gain a powerful new ally. naval fleets in the known world.
  • WAYPOINT_OBJECTIVE_FORMAT (New) - 0/1 %s
  • WAYPOINT_OBJECTIVE_FORMAT_OPTIONAL (New) - 0/1 %s (Optional)
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Comments 39 Comments
  1. Lumineus's Avatar
    Pillar of Frost summons a Frostwhelp who breathes on all enemies within 20 40 yards
    Uh, what? DKs with this trait are annoying enough in instances already. Should be reduced to 15, 12, or even 10, not increased to 40.
  1. Tisane's Avatar
    Why the heck would Wintergrasp need testing? Long ago in the past you were already able to queue for it so that's nothing new. Did it get new features or something?
  1. FelPlague's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Tisane View Post
    Why the heck would Wintergrasp need testing? Long ago in the past you were already able to queue for it so that's nothing new. Did it get new features or something?
    1. to make sure it works as a BG (Such as you cant escape the area)
    2. that it works, cause i mean it hasnt been in the spotlight for a good 11 years...
    3. to make sure stuff like DH dont instantly break it.
  1. revjiggs's Avatar
    encrypted sounds for an alpaca. Sounds like vulpera allied race confirmed
  1. AlmightyGerkin's Avatar
    Sorry Blizzard, but wintergrasp was a beautiful and fun wpvp zone but the feeling and fun i had back than would not be the same anymore.
  1. Waynhim's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Tisane View Post
    Why the heck would Wintergrasp need testing? Long ago in the past you were already able to queue for it so that's nothing new. Did it get new features or something?
    Balancing of NPC's, artillery and the like?

    Hopefully they'll do a better job then in the war fronts.
  1. Nyahr's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    there is no such thing as an automated ban system.
    I'm not allowed to post links, but there are plenty of examples already of the automated ban system booting people offline due to either troll or spam reporting to gain an advantage. All you have to do is a quick google search. In one such example, one player typed "f**k" in guild chat and his guildies jokingly reported him. He was kicked offline with a suspension within seconds of the reports happening. Now, do you believe that a GM somehow reviewed a case and enacted a punishment both within the span of a minute, as in this case? Or would an automatic system with a report quota to trigger make more sense?
  1. FelPlague's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyahr View Post
    I'm not allowed to post links, but there are plenty of examples already of the automated ban system booting people offline due to either troll or spam reporting to gain an advantage. All you have to do is a quick google search. In one such example, one player typed "f**k" in guild chat and his guildies jokingly reported him. He was kicked offline with a suspension within seconds of the reports happening. Now, do you believe that a GM somehow reviewed a case and enacted a punishment both within the span of a minute, as in this case? Or would an automatic system with a report quota to trigger make more sense?
    Post 5 more times then post the link. Cause saying "fuck" won't get you suspended, that will get you silenced. Idk if you know but saying fuck is not bannable it is silence able though.

    Apparently though when you are silenced you get dced but can log right back in.
    But no, there is no such thing as automated bans.
  1. Salty Maud's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by SinR View Post
    Anyone else thinking Alpaca Mount could be for Vulpera for when they go on the Blizzard Store as the first buyable Allied Race?
    You should work for blizzard.
  1. Eleccybubb's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by SinR View Post
    Anyone else thinking Alpaca Mount could be for Vulpera for when they go on the Blizzard Store as the first buyable Allied Race?
    Wouldn't put it past them these days.

    Bet they try and pull that crap with Classes next with "Allied Classes" too.
  1. SinR's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUzer0 View Post
    You should work for blizzard.
    I'd get laid off after they make hundreds of millions off selling Vulpera unlocks.
  1. Hamacus's Avatar
    Finally Blizz Devs are waking up to the fact that there was stuff in the game that is now gone that people loved! Wintergrasp is one of those. I generally hate PvP but I loved WG. Now if they will only bring back things like the Mage Tower, Tier Sets, and professions that made things you could actually use and sell it would be good times.
  1. -Skyfire-'s Avatar
    Looks like I will be skipping all of those crafting items... FFS
  1. s0ul's Avatar
    new Wintergrasp epic battleground experience
    New? Wintergrasp? LMFAO nice wording.
  1. THEORACLE64's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    Post 5 more times then post the link. Cause saying "fuck" won't get you suspended, that will get you silenced. Idk if you know but saying fuck is not bannable it is silence able though.

    Apparently though when you are silenced you get dced but can log right back in.
    But no, there is no such thing as automated bans.
    I mean, there actually is depending on what context you’re talking about. Maybe it’s changed to less, but there used to be a 3 strike and you’re banned if you’d open the game with a bot programme running. i.e. if you opened the game 3 times with a detectable bot running your account would get automatically banned. It’s probably less chances now, but technically there is such a thing as automatic bans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s0ul View Post
    New? Wintergrasp? LMFAO nice wording.
    “LMFAO” nice taking words out of context. Wintergrasp under the epic battleground experience is new, so yes, they worded it right.
  1. Savagedragn's Avatar
    There are still enough blues to field a wintergrasp battle?
  1. FelPlague's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Hamacus View Post
    Finally Blizz Devs are waking up to the fact that there was stuff in the game that is now gone that people loved! Wintergrasp is one of those. I generally hate PvP but I loved WG. Now if they will only bring back things like the Mage Tower, Tier Sets, and professions that made things you could actually use and sell it would be good times.
    they have always known people loved wintergrasp, making an pen world thing into a BG though is tough work.
  1. Eleccybubb's Avatar
    Meh. Hardly new.

    All they are doing is scaling it up for 110 and giving it a queue. Hardly something spectacular.
  1. Hamacus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    they have always known people loved wintergrasp, making an pen world thing into a BG though is tough work.

    Believe me I know as I work in IT and development. That said I think they have or had more than enough resources (monetary, time, developers) to get it done. The issue has always been astonishingly poor choices in direction and content. Blizzard is constantly (at least lately) giving us what they seemingly want and not allowing players to choose to play how they enjoy playing.

    That is on top of not listening to feedback or responding painfully late. Even when it comes from people highly respected in the community. The latest changes at Blizzard do not bode well for any change in that respect. I hope I am wrong as I have played this game without breaks in subscription since Vanilla. Obviously I love the game. I and others just want it to be the best it can be.

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