New In-Game Shop Toys - Transmorpher Beacon and Faction Fireworks

All these people bitching about cosmetic stuff.

People will buy these items anyways just to increase their collection. What's $30 to them? Who cares let the spend money on that. Only 25% of it going to the esports thing lol These items wont fix the game unfortunately.

Originally Posted by Daedius

Why the hell would I want to contribute to a prize pool of a fucking eSport Championship?

because apparently some ungodly percentage of WoW's remaining customers are willing to hand Blizzard money for literally anything.

you'd think if anyone gave a shit about whatever the fuck this championship bullshit is that there would be enough advertising money to pay for it. that's how sports that people care about work.

Originally Posted by Kyanion

Did you bring out the pitchforks and torches during TBC when the card game had special mounts, pets, toys and so on? Remember the spectral tiger mount?

Did you bring out the pitchforks the first time the cash shop came around selling mounts? This shit has been around for Y E A R S and now they added some toys to go with mounts/pets on the store. If this is where the 'test the water' is at after 14+ years, I think we'll be okay.

Don't know about him but I already predicted this situation back then. So, yes.

Originally Posted by Eleccybubb

Eh. Who? Might have them on ignore to be fair so can't see their posts haha!

But yeah there's no defending this. They can't proclaim to have a record quarter then go beg the players for more money to fund something they should already be capable of funding.

I play both FF XIV and WoW, and I gotta say that the amount of bullshit (and new unique mounts lately like the whale/fat cat) in FF XIV shop is over the top, and akin to a f2p game, compared to WoW's seemingly much more limited cash shop, for a game that is 14 years old, not 5 (if we discount the failed 1.0 release). And afaik, you are a big supporter of FF XIV. So way to go with your double standards my dude. Keep dropping lower and lower.

Originally Posted by Axxil

All these people bitching about cosmetic stuff.

Yeah I tune it out, something for them to be outraged about before the next thing to be outraged about.

Who gives a shit anymore.

I'm completely jaded.

See this toy has a lot of potential.

If this was a toy that would be expanded upon, allowing more boss appearance options every so often,
especially if they further expand upon how some bosses are xmogged (for example, bosses that are on
all 4's would be something that Bear/Cat form Druids can turn into), I could say that $10 is worth it.

But, knowing Bliz, they won't think that far ahead.

Originally Posted by Kyanion

How long have you been playing? Because micro transactions existed in VANILLA for fucks sake. Remember paid server transfers? Vanilla. The complete experience based on your wording would be the ability to race change, faction change, server change, any store mount/pet etc. Yeah you wish.

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Again, these have been here since Vanilla. Sprinkled with microtransactions that have escalated over the years.

A server transfer is not added content, it's a service. A mount, a toy, or transmog pieces are added content. You're comparing apples and oranges. The first micro-transaction content wasn't added until Wrath with the sparkle pony. People didn't like that at the time either, because it circumvented a (at the time) substantial gold cost for mounts, especially when considering alts.

If the cut was 80% + for the prize pot and the rest for blizzard i'd be fine with it but this is just beyond pathetic.

Originally Posted by Kolvarg

Because microtransactions aren't acceptable in a game that has an existing business system with a box price and monthly subscription.

It is entirely ignorable, sure, but it just leaves a bad taste in many people's mouth. When I pay front-price for a game I want to have a complete experience that I can enjoy fully without having to pay more for some parts of it. Even worse when I'm also paying a subscription fee as well.

If the box price and monthly subscription is not a working business model that sustains the game as well as allows them to invest in the long term goals of the game, then it needs to be reviewed - not just sprinkled with microtransactions.

It just feeds an industry-wide idea of creating monetization systems disguised as games, instead of creating good games and then making money out of them. The whole "games as a service" is way too prevalent and has brought the industry to an unsustainable place that will likely sooner or later crash.

Pretty much. A sub based game having MTX irritates me.

FF14 has them and it admittedly rubs me the wrong way. However it at least provides a fun and quality experience unlike WoW so the MTX in that game are definitely not affecting the games quality.

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Originally Posted by Morgaith

If the cut was 80% + for the prize pot and the rest for blizzard i'd be fine with it but this is just beyond pathetic.

Aye. And if they really did have a record quarter they wouldn't need to be doing this at all.

The amount of MTX funnelled into this game since August is worrying.

Teabagging fireworks, that's new

Wonder if that's the Blizzard's equivalent of "Red Dot" in Activisions Black Ops IV, or if that's yet to come. A sneeze potion for 1$ perhaps?

Good to see that Heelvsbabyface allready ate his daily ration of tinfoil hats.

People act like its a extra fee to log in. Its cosmetic stuff to support a pricepool. grow up.

The fact that the transmorpher lasts 20 minutes with a 60 minute CD is fucking stupid. If I'm going to be paying actual money for an in game toy, then I don't want the dumb limitations of other toys. But of course Blizzard has to restrict toy fun. 100% not worth it now.

Originally Posted by BoltBlaster

Already nerfed to 1 hour cooldown.

Steps to success:
1. Sell fun.
2. Detect fun.
3. Nerf fun.
4. Watch people with more money than brains buy yet another toy that they have hundreds of.
5. Profit.

Why bother buying something with such long cooldown?

This is ridiculous. People should be asking for their money back from this change. It's like selling and advertising a flying mount, then after a bunch of people buy it, nerfing it into a ground only mount. That's false advertising.

Originally Posted by Foolicious

People act like its a extra fee to log in. Its cosmetic stuff to support a pricepool. grow up.

Cosmetic or not, it's extra stuff we have to pay for when we already purchase the game and pay a monthly fee. Micro-transactions do not belong in a paid subscription game.

I think a lot of people also take issue with the amount that's even going to the prize pool - a whopping 25%. A that's only going to the prize pool for a limited time. But this is also grubbing for money after their own reports of record profits. See how this starts to not add up? A company that makes billions of dollars a year needs us to contribute to a prize pool $2.50 at a time, while they take $7.50 in profit per transaction.

Originally Posted by Monkiy

A server transfer is not added content, it's a service. A mount, a toy, or transmog pieces are added content. You're comparing apples and oranges. The first micro-transaction content wasn't added until Wrath with the sparkle pony. People didn't like that at the time either, because it circumvented a (at the time) substantial gold cost for mounts, especially when considering alts.

Umm paying to move servers is a microtransaction as much as buying a cosmetic pet. And the first true 'micro transactions' were the card game bonuses in TBC if we're being really honest not the sparkle pony.

Originally Posted by The Stormbringer

This is ridiculous. People should be asking for their money back from this change. It's like selling and advertising a flying mount, then after a bunch of people buy it, nerfing it into a ground only mount. That's false advertising.

Yep. Absolute pathetic move to do nerfing the CD after people have probably bought them.

But I'd expect no less of this company.

Originally Posted by Eleccybubb

Pretty much. A sub based game having MTX irritates me.

FF14 has them and it admittedly rubs me the wrong way. However it at least provides a fun and quality experience unlike WoW so the MTX in that game are definitely not affecting the games quality.

C'mon man you can't handwave the BS in FF14 because you are getting a 'quality experience'. I feel I am getting a quality experience in WoW because of the raiding so I continue to play it. I didn't feel I was getting much in FF14 so I stopped after a month in the expansion. The amount of shit in the FF cash shop dwarves what WoW is doing and we both know that.

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Originally Posted by Monkiy

Cosmetic or not, it's extra stuff we have to pay for when we already purchase the game and pay a monthly fee. Micro-transactions do long belong in a paid subscription game.

And people would argue server transfers in Vanilla were the same damn thing (btw, people did). They paid for the game + a sub they felt they shouldn't have to pay a fee to pick a new server. Microtransactions have been in the game since Vanilla and will never go away.

Originally Posted by Kyanion

How long have you been playing? Because micro transactions existed in VANILLA for fucks sake.

I wouldn't consider those serveices as any part of the experience. It's things that have very little to do with the game and its gameplay, and definitely not something that you would be able to acquire or experience through the game. They were external technical services that had very little to do with the actual concept of the game, and that at time actually probably made sense since realms used to have their own individual physical servers and databases, and it would likely require a fair amount of human interaction.

Hell, if you're gonna give an example of early actual content behind a pay wall, at least go for the in-game TCG loot.

Regardless, the fact something that you might consider "microtransactions" existed from the start doesn't make it any more acceptable that they exist now. Especially since they keep adding more and more of them.

It changes nothing about what I said.