Activision Blizzard Earnings Call, WoW Classic Character Limit, Soul Cleave Thoughts

Still believe at blizzcon they will announce wow on console.

Mobile diablo = no, fuck that.... holy shit it's a trap

Wow classic= I don't mind but we have to ask ourselves a question... "Will i still be playing it till i get bored?"

Warcraft 3 remaster: No doubt in my mind i would be playing this way much more than wow combined total play time. Something better than BFA

If they announce the next expac and fix the fundamental issues that they’ve talked about wanting to fix recently (class design, pruning, gearing, etc) I think we’ll have a good blizzcon in regards to WoW and a good expansion as well but of course I’m very skeptical.

I don’t believe at all that they’ll announce mobile shit. They might briefly talk about dipping their hands into the mobile area just to let people know what they’re planning but that’s it. Last years blizzcon was a PR fiasco and I’m sure they wanna avoid it. However if I’m wrong I wouldn’t be surprised.

The way the doomsayers speak you'd think they should have lost 15-20 million...

What leadership position in esports?

i dont get the mobile hate... long as its not the ONLY direction for an IP its a smart decision. the Mobile space is a huge money maker and the last i looked into growing still. Now if they go pay 2 win that's more of an issue, which can happen on any platform.

IMO its past time for some sort of petbattle mobile for wow.

Diablo immortal would have been fan followed by D4. I'm curious to why diablo immortal hasn't rolled out yet, less the backlash did have some impact.

Originally Posted by Skroe

MAU is such a delightfully obscure and bullshit metric, lol.


Looking forward to the next Hearthstone freebie so I can do my thrice-a-year log-in to collect it, and boost their MAU for that by one.

Yeah, I did ecactly the same login to hs with new xpac release to reap the rewards. But, well, mau is holding strong lol

Though 3M out of 35M is A LOT (and the stock seems to agree with me) wondering if they count people that only have bnet client too, or if that's too much bullshitting even for atvi

Was there nothing about WoW or Hearthstone in this one? I know they've been just saying stuff like with WoW like "more engagement with value-added services" but nothing at all to say this time.

I see the general "Strong operational discipline" and "partially offset by lower costs" part, which is referring to the layoff, and shutting down HGC

Originally Posted by cuafpr

i dont get the mobile hate... long as its not the ONLY direction for an IP its a smart decision. the Mobile space is a huge money maker and the last i looked into growing still. Now if they go pay 2 win that's more of an issue, which can happen on any platform.

IMO its past time for some sort of petbattle mobile for wow.

Diablo immortal would have been fan followed by D4. I'm curious to why diablo immortal hasn't rolled out yet, less the backlash did have some impact.

I guess we need to repeat again… The problem is not that Blizz is making a side Diablo game on mobile. Cool if you like the idea! The problem was they announced it at their major event as their "Main" project on the main stage! That event with their more loyal fans and long time PC players... That was the problem! In fact it was a huge mistake and a really bad move against all their reliable and longtime best customers. We all knows that there's a big difference between mobile and pc players!

Originally Posted by riptal

I guess we need to repeat again… The problem is not that Blizz is making a side Diablo game on mobile. Cool if you like the idea! The problem was they announced it at their major event as their "Main" project on the main stage! That event with their more loyal fans and long time PC players... That was the problem! In fact it was a huge mistake and a really bad move against all their reliable and longtime best customers. We all knows that there's a big difference between mobile and pc players!

the only mistake imo was that being the ONLY diablo announcement. Diablo got so much hype we all expected D4, i did 2. I was there even.

Originally Posted by scarecrowz

It's always funny that even when actual stats come out the fanboys still ignore it.

Exactly lol. The evidence is right there. They also lost players last quarter so in the past 2 quarters they've lost 7-8 mil across all games.

How can people sit there and say that it's fine when they've lost 20%ish of players in 6-7 months? Are we seriously going to start burying our heads now at cold hard facts that the player count across their games is down?

And this just further adds to the speculation that MTX is fuelling those "record profits" more than anything.

Holy shit that MAU drop. Yikes Blizzard.

Originally Posted by Eleccybubb

Exactly lol. The evidence is right there. They also lost players last quarter so in the past 2 quarters they've lost 7-8 mil across all games.

How can people sit there and say that it's fine when they've lost 20%ish of players in 6-7 months? Are we seriously going to start burying our heads now at cold hard facts that the player count across their games is down?

And this just further adds to the speculation that MTX is fuelling those "record profits" more than anything.

I don't think I've seen anyone claim that player numbers isn't down for WoW. What's your purpose here, have you just become the Slipmat for FFXIV?

Originally Posted by Segus1992

I don't think I've seen anyone claim that player numbers isn't down for WoW. What's your purpose here, have you just become the Slipmat for FFXIV?

So calling people out for "doomsaying" (not you) just for pointing out a fact isn't trying to act like there's nothing wrong?

When you drop around 6-8 mil players in half a year there's something wrong.

Blizzard will migrate to phone. The revenue of Candy Crush must be a dagger over their heads.

Originally Posted by Shampro

Holy shit that MAU drop. Yikes Blizzard.

ah... record profits despite record layoffs?

Originally Posted by cuafpr

i dont get the mobile hate... long as its not the ONLY direction for an IP its a smart decision. the Mobile space is a huge money maker and the last i looked into growing still. Now if they go pay 2 win that's more of an issue, which can happen on any platform.

IMO its past time for some sort of petbattle mobile for wow.

Diablo immortal would have been fan followed by D4. I'm curious to why diablo immortal hasn't rolled out yet, less the backlash did have some impact.

Bad consumer practices which will spread to PC if it keeps going rampant.

Originally Posted by Hextor

What leadership position in esports?

Well they do , if you combine Hearthstone, wow pve/pvp, owl and cod, they beat every single other company in the esports world.

Originally Posted by scarecrowz

The funniest part is how they've had "free" periods for WoW and Call of Duty among others to try and pad these numbers out and there is still a massive drop off.


We've always known that the fanboys are now fueling this game. Ever since you were allowed to purchase gold.

Yup, for a long time now WoW has been kept afloat by the whales.

Originally Posted by dope_danny

sheeeeyit. well then yeah if overwatch is 'stable' then its hearthstone and WoW. All their other games are dead and dead games dont decline in user numbers in the millions.

Hearthstone is tanking pretty hard, but doomsayers will definitely try to put the majority of those millions in WoW's lap. Just the way it works in these parts.

I have to wonder about "Activision Blizzard continues to enhance their leadership position in esports." - What leadership position in esports? All they've got is Overwatch and that's not very lively compared to a bunch of other much more popular games. Hots/Starcraft esports is dead, Hearthstone esports is getting dead, WoW PvP never really took off as a serious esports afaik.

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Originally Posted by Indil

Well they do , if you combine Hearthstone, wow pve/pvp, owl and cod, they beat every single other company in the esports world.

If you combine Hearthstone / WoW PvP (Blizzard doesn't make anything directly off of PvE, indirectly maybe.) / Overwatch / CoD they don't even get the viewership numbers of Fortnite / League on a regular day.