Rise of Azshara Cinematic - Safe Haven Varok Saurfang realizes that if he is to secure a future for the Horde, he must reach out to the one who led it in the past.
I keep seeing people posting about Saurfang lying to Thrall, yet 2 fucking Undead Rogues attacked him. Last I checked, the Undead
aren't friends with Saurfang right now, and he has NOTHING to gain from lying to Thrall, so could you guys please not keep harping
on that? It's beyond retarded.
Originally Posted by Sorrowseer
Saurfang enjoyed killing the defenseless civilians when the horde attacked stormwind during the second war, he said so himself. He is a piece of shit who enjoyes murdering defencless women and children for fun.
That was when he had drunk the blood of Mannoroth, and was under a demonic influence.
There's a scene in Borean Tundra where Saurfang tells Garrosh what happened when the Orcs attacked the Draenei,
and how once Mannorth's influence was gone, a lot of the old Orcs were horrified and suicidal for committing so
many attrocities.
It was Saurfang who helped them, and even he himself says he doesn't eat pork anymore, because it reminds him
of the sound the children make.
Of course, if you actually knew anything about the lore, you'd already know this.
Which you don't.
Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles
"I followed them" BWAAA HA HA HA HA HAA suuuuuuuuuuuuuure you did..
Yeah because a war veteran like Saurfang who has a lifetime of combat experience in tactics and warfare couldn't
possibly know anything about stealth, hunting, and/or tracking. I mean what would someone who's had the title/rank
of General know anything about that stuff?
I hate to break it to ya'll, but Sylvanas is not this stupid. She only sent two assassins to kill THRALL? Nah. This is part of her plan. She needs him to return for some reason. Baine is in chains to bait him into returning. If killing Thrall was her only motive, he'd be dead. She is way too cunning to fail at such a simple task.
I hate to break it to ya'll, but Sylvanas is not this stupid. She only sent two assassins to kill THRALL? Nah. This is part of her plan. She needs him to return for some reason. Baine is in chains to bait him into returning. If killing Thrall was her only motive, he'd be dead. She is way too cunning to fail at such a simple task.
So... she sent two forsaken to get themselves killed?
I mean, no matter what her 'twist' plan is, she still burned children alive and went Orwellian Dictator in BTS.
Casualties of war is a necessary evil in winning. Ever play chess? She sacrificed two pawns to get Thrall to make a move on the board. Do you really think she would only send two to kill Thrall? Do you really believe her intent was to kill him this way?
I keep seeing people posting about Saurfang lying to Thrall, yet 2 fucking Undead Rogues attacked him. Last I checked, the Undead
aren't friends with Saurfang right now, and he has NOTHING to gain from lying to Thrall, so could you guys please not keep harping
on that? It's beyond retarded.
People are discussing coherence about Blizzard's writing. Just let them discuss.
I didn't know fat Clefthoofs could stealth up on ya!
This was also a world where you had sneaky, stealthy cat-men who would gut you or rip out your throat if they had a chance. Also sneaky, stealthy Arakkoa.
I keep seeing people posting about Saurfang lying to Thrall, yet 2 fucking Undead Rogues attacked him. Last I checked, the Undead
aren't friends with Saurfang right now, and he has NOTHING to gain from lying to Thrall, so could you guys please not keep harping
on that? It's beyond retarded.
If you have supposedly tracked two assassins to your mates house you wouldn't open with that? You would shoot the shit with them till they attacked and then you tell him you tracked two assassins to his house?
As far as i know, Thrall was a warrior for a long while (untill Cataclysm maybe) before taking a shift towards the Elements and becoming a Far-Seer
You need to go play Warcraft 3, my friend. Chain Lightning, Far Sight, Feral Spirit, his normal attacks by default has him shoot lightning balls at his enemies...
Isn't the text written in the post incorrect? I mean it speaks aboutt Varok reaching out to someone, but in the cinematics he specifically says he follows the enemy there.
I keep seeing people posting about Saurfang lying to Thrall, yet 2 fucking Undead Rogues attacked him. Last I checked, the Undead
aren't friends with Saurfang right now, and he has NOTHING to gain from lying to Thrall, so could you guys please not keep harping
on that? It's beyond retarded.
That was when he had drunk the blood of Mannoroth, and was under a demonic influence.
There's a scene in Borean Tundra where Saurfang tells Garrosh what happened when the Orcs attacked the Draenei,
and how once Mannorth's influence was gone, a lot of the old Orcs were horrified and suicidal for committing so
many attrocities.
It was Saurfang who helped them, and even he himself says he doesn't eat pork anymore, because it reminds him
of the sound the children make.
Of course, if you actually knew anything about the lore, you'd already know this.
Which you don't.
Yeah because a war veteran like Saurfang who has a lifetime of combat experience in tactics and warfare couldn't
possibly know anything about stealth, hunting, and/or tracking. I mean what would someone who's had the title/rank
of General know anything about that stuff?
Nope. How unrealistic.
The issue people have and why they say Saurfang lied is because he stood there bantering with Thrall about how the Horde needs him instead of going “Thrall, there’s assassins here to kill you!”
It’s either great storytelling with Saurfang being a liar to convince Thrall to help his vision or terrible fucking writing in priorities.
That said, I remember people posting about Syl being under the Old Gods influence, but I’m beginning to think it is Saurfang. If we think about it, he let Malfurion live and told 2 NE leaders to not go back to the tree to avoid their death even more, creating dissension amongst the Horde while casting doubt on the Warchief and causing her to burn the tree to attempt the same effect Mal’s death would have caused.
He then starts showing unease with Syl, who has already pointed out how vulnerable the Horde is to an Alliance attack and why she has to use such underhanded and despicable tactics and starts recruiting people to his cause.
He then goes for Thrall and, again either great writing or fucking terrible, spends time bantering about how the Horde needs him and then tells Thrall he tracked assassins to Thrall to get him to join.
Saurfang could easily be corrupted and causing dissension in the ranks to weaken the Horde further.
Now, I’m not saying Syl is justified and I do believe her acts are truly heinous, but at the same time somewhat justified tactics being done by a weaker army in attempts to crush your enemies spirit.
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