Warsong Gulch and Honor System - Beta Test
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Greetings Beta Testers,

Starting on the afternoon of May 24, we will be enabling the PvP Honor System and the Warsong Gulch Battleground in the WoW Classic Beta realms. Beta players are invited to queue for Warsong Gulch from 12:00 p.m. PDT to 4:00 p.m. PDT on Saturday, May 25 and Sunday, May 26 as we try to spin up as many instances of the battleground as possible. While we’re targeting that timeframe to help capture data, players who are logged into the beta will be able to queue for Warsong Gulch at the Warsong Gulch battlemaster in capital cities at any time throughout the weekend.

As a reminder, queuing for Warsong Gulch requires your character to be level 10 or higher.

We have a few known issues related to Warsong Gulch:

  • The Battleground Scoreboard does not currently display Flag Captures and Flag Return statistics.
  • The Battleground Scoreboard stat numbers are misaligned with player names.

Have fun racking up those HKs and don’t forget to submit any bugs or issues that you encounter using the in-game bug reporter.
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  1. Kalmakk's Avatar
    And watch as the streamer salt compilations ensue.
  1. Onikaroshi's Avatar
    Streamers will get a few going I'm sure, but what I've heard from regular folk is that for them the servers are basically dead, hard to get groups for things so we'll see how this plays out. The really need to keep inviting to beta, it was a bad idea to stop.
  1. Brewshine's Avatar
    I’m tempted to see no lifer premade groups destroy streamers.
  1. THEORACLE64's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    Streamers will get a few going I'm sure, but what I've heard from regular folk is that for them the servers are basically dead, hard to get groups for things so we'll see how this plays out. The really need to keep inviting to beta, it was a bad idea to stop.
    This is nothing new. Blizzard have always invited in waves - it allows for a focused group to test and it allowed them to keep an eye on everything relatively closely. As the beta goes on and when they’re happy enough that things are stable they’ll send out another wave, thus the process repeats. They’ll do it as long as they’re satisfied they can control the beta environment, so if they’re happy enough sending out more waves they will.
  1. Onikaroshi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by THEORACLE64 View Post
    This is nothing new. Blizzard have always invited in waves - it allows for a focused group to test and it allowed them to keep an eye on everything relatively closely. As the beta goes on and when they’re happy enough that things are stable they’ll send out another wave, thus the process repeats. They’ll do it as long as they’re satisfied they can control the beta environment, so if they’re happy enough sending out more waves they will.
    This is the first time they've basically said "we've got what we need, we'll re-evaluate later" though, so it's a bit weird, specially when you keep hearing how people are having trouble testing because they can't find groups for anything.

    Part of the problem could be that people are spread out everywhere doing things instead of sitting in Org or Ironforge... wonder how long it will be before someone develops some LFG addon that you can create groups to run things on.
  1. huehuehue's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    Streamers will get a few going I'm sure, but what I've heard from regular folk is that for them the servers are basically dead, hard to get groups for things so we'll see how this plays out. The really need to keep inviting to beta, it was a bad idea to stop.
    its tough. the whole population of a faction is in fewer than 10 zones. despite there not being THAT many people on the server, there's always competition for quests (grp v grp). If they're stress testing layer technology, I'd assume its not fully reliable, and they're waiting on that to get more people in here.

    Also, groups form in seconds to minutes from my experience.
  1. Onikaroshi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by huehuehue View Post
    its tough. the whole population of a faction is in fewer than 10 zones. despite there not being THAT many people on the server, there's always competition for quests. If they're stress testing layer technology, I'd assume its not fully functional, and they're waiting on that to get more people in here.

    Also, groups for in seconds to minutes from my experience.
    Layering was wonky on stress test, I actually got a character stuck in an infinite world server down loop by switching between layers. Could be a reason to slow down for now, but their wording on the post pointed more towards "we have enough"
  1. huehuehue's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    but their wording on the post pointed more towards "we have enough"
    that would be really disappointing, but i guess they did say something along the lines of not needing as many voices because they aren't interested in the typical beta feedback of "how do you feel about this new system". I still hope that they try to invite more to really iron out the wrinkles.
  1. Onikaroshi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by huehuehue View Post
    that would be really disappointing, but i guess they did say something along the lines of not needing as many voices because they aren't interested in the typical beta feedback of "how do you feel about this new system".
    Bit weird to have a beta at all then and not just multiple stress tests alone. There's still going to be bugs since they rebuilt the game on the new client so they should still be trying to shove as many testers in as possible.

    Maybe not for how it feels, but to try and break as much as possible, so that it all goes smoothly on launch. How shitty are they going to feel if the first guild to pull in MC runs into a bug because they didn't have enough testers on beta to test raids thoroughly.
  1. Agrossive's Avatar
    They should expire the beta asscess after a few weeks or a month and give fresh eyes to a new wave of people. After playing so long your interest and attention to detail is going to slip compared to someone new excited to help polish the beta.
  1. farkas633's Avatar
    Which beta will be available? is old beta or stress test beta too?
  1. Onikaroshi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by farkas633 View Post
    Which beta will be available? is old beta or stress test beta too?
    Old beta, stress test doesn't come back up til next wed.
  1. Mrbleedinggums's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    This is the first time they've basically said "we've got what we need, we'll re-evaluate later" though, so it's a bit weird, specially when you keep hearing how people are having trouble testing because they can't find groups for anything.

    Part of the problem could be that people are spread out everywhere doing things instead of sitting in Org or Ironforge... wonder how long it will be before someone develops some LFG addon that you can create groups to run things on.
    Hopefully that addon is banned. Any addons that weren't available at the time of Classic should not be allowed on the Classic servers. People either need to decide whether to go questing or stay in Org for 2+ hours trying to find a group. #NoChanges
  1. Onikaroshi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Mrbleedinggums View Post
    Hopefully that addon is banned. Any addons that weren't available at the time of Classic should not be allowed on the Classic servers. People either need to decide whether to go questing or stay in Org for 2+ hours trying to find a group. #NoChanges
    I hate to break it to you, but there's going to be a shit ton of addons that didn't exist in vanilla, as well as a bunch of addons that used to work that won't work anymore.

    It's using the modern API not the old one, ie, things like dps and threat meters will actually work but things like supermacro will not.

    Weakauras is already working on a Classic a version and DBM has already released their version.

    Honestly though, there was no reason a LFG type addon couldn't have existed in Vanilla, it was just that no one made one.
  1. Mokenuf's Avatar
    Hey guys I was into the Stress Test the other day and now I can see (offline) the Beta Realms I was not flagged for beta before just stress test. Check your clients.
  1. dacoolist's Avatar
    I'm guessing you can BG at 19/29/and above etc right?
  1. Onikaroshi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Mokenuf View Post
    Hey guys I was into the Stress Test the other day and now I can see (offline) the Beta Realms I was not flagged for beta before just stress test. Check your clients.
    Twitter confirmed its a visual bug, we're not actually in... not nice to tease though... should just let us in.

    Edit: yup, entirely a visual bug, now I'm annoyed.
  1. coprax's Avatar
    Did they increase the range that enemy healthplates show in this patch? Popping in much farther now!? Or did BGs have different values for that?


    I just just realize how ridiciously bad nameframes in pvp were, no class icon or color, and no castbars. Basically have to guess what you are fighting without addon nameplates^^
  1. WoWGoneBad's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by coprax View Post
    Did they increase the range that enemy healthplates show in this patch? Popping in much farther now!? Or did BGs have different values for that?


    I just just realize how ridiciously bad nameframes in pvp were, no class icon or color, and no castbars. Basically have to guess what you are fighting without addon nameplates^^
    Yeah, but back then it was very easy to tell a class. You see a shield it is Warrior or Paladin. If you see a bow Hunter. Staff with pet Warlock. Staff Mage and so on.

    Nameplate colors is a good qol change for easier identification, but you could tell classes apart
  1. brydence's Avatar
    My question is, will they be calculating honor and releasing it and earned titles at midnight PST like they did in Vanilla?

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