An Update on the Future of MMO-Champion
We’re excited to welcome MMO-Champion to the Magic Find family and are excited to work together! We're a small independent team of people who worked on gaming websites in the past (including MMO-Champion) and are teaming up to build up new communities together.

Over the next few months we will do our best to ramp up work on the website and work together with all of you to improve performance and work on developing new ideas.

Acquisitions are always a bit strange and come with a lot of questions, so we'll do our best to answer them and we hope we’ll build trust over time and improve MMO-Champion together.

If you have any suggestions or issues you’ve identified on the website, now is definitely a great time to let us know about them!
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  1. Vorkreist's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Mod me, and you will never have to worry about Gen-OT again.
    No, me! I'll make Gen-OT great again!

    Also ban elf threads. Enough is enough.
  1. Gabriel's Avatar
    For reals:

    Appoint more mods to General Off-topic and give them faaaaaaar more leeway in enforcing the rules. The rules are too rigid and there are so many career trolls who have managed to evade the ban hammer for years because they stay in character and never actually admit to trolling.

    Also important: implement some system that allows you to permanently ban people based on their hardware. I know for a fact there is a person in the Gen-OT forums that has near 100k posts on different accounts, some of which have been banned, but many have not. Dedicated trolls know to use VPNs so IP banning them does fuck all.
  1. Justpassing's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    For reals:

    Appoint more mods to General Off-topic and give them faaaaaaar more leeway in enforcing the rules. The rules are too rigid and there are so many career trolls who have managed to evade the ban hammer for years because they stay in character and never actually admit to trolling.

    Also important: implement some system that allows you to permanently ban people based on their hardware. I know for a fact there is a person in the Gen-OT forums that has near 100k posts on different accounts, some of which have been banned, but many have not. Dedicated trolls know to use VPNs so IP banning them does fuck all.
    Why do you guys care so much about gen-OT? What's wrong with tumblr or reddit or whatever shithole there is, can't you go hold your little group therapy sessions there and leave a gaming fansite be about gaming, and not bashing minorities? Jesus Christ, what is this shit...
  1. Gabriel's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Justpassing View Post
    Why do you guys care so much about gen-OT? What's wrong with tumblr or reddit or whatever shithole there is, can't you go hold your little group therapy sessions there and leave a gaming fansite be about gaming, and not bashing minorities? Jesus Christ, what is this shit...
    Sure, nuke the entire Gen-OT off the surface of this site. I'm happy either way.
  1. Justpassing's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Sure, nuke the entire Gen-OT off the surface of this site. I'm happy either way.
    Now, this I can get behind.
  1. Vladinator's Avatar
    You will probably say "just google it" but the first results are other mmochampion posts people wrote "Gen-OT" and none of the other results seem to explain what it is, so I decided to ask here. What is Gen-OT?
  1. Nymrohd's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Vladinator View Post
    You will probably say "just google it" but the first results are other mmochampion posts people wrote "Gen-OT" and none of the other results seem to explain what it is, so I decided to ask here. What is Gen-OT?
    A wretched hive of scum and villainy.
    Or General Off-Topic.
  1. Vargulf the Happy Husky's Avatar
    i say let the trolls live! i come here for laughs.

    also, tell auculd to tape his stiffy for sylvanas to his leg.
  1. ggoodstudy29's Avatar
    Magic Find sounds good
  1. BoltBlaster's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Sure, nuke the entire Gen-OT off the surface of this site. I'm happy either way.
    This. The only proper way of handling it.
  1. Darknessvamp's Avatar
    Interested to see where this goes. Only things I would suggest is find some way to stop the "Black Magic" spam the forums get every other week, maybe look at adding some more information regarding other MMOs to the front page e.g. Elder Scrolls and FFXIV and don't bother about Gen-OT, so much straw-manning and passive aggressive stuff goes on in that section you can't tell who is being serious and who isn't and just closing it will lead them to start doing it in other sections of the site.

    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Unban genn 2019
    Oh and I echo this #GennDinduNuthinWrong.
  1. Sharper13's Avatar
    Can we clean up the WoW forums? An awful lot of out-dated stickies in there.
  1. Sulla's Avatar
    Nothing better than coming to this thread and seeing a lot of the people that have been repeatedly banned for trolling/flaming in Gen-OT complaining about the trolling/flaming in Gen-OT.

    @Skroe, I'm looking at you.

    "If I can't have it my way than no one should have it at all" - that's what y'all sound like. How about putting on your big boy pants and not acting like a spoiled toddler every time someone disagrees with you?

    If I were magicfind, I would make this a political forum first and move all WoW discussion to OT.



    Infracted.
  1. Vegas82's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Very Tired View Post
    From a business point of view and a future web developer, I'm really curious what kind of expenses running a site like this incurs.
    Sounds like you need to discover a little thing called Google before you worry about being a web developer. These kinds of questions are easily answered with a basic search.
  1. BurningSkies2018's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by MoanaLisa View Post
    1. Would like to see the site get back to mostly be about gaming.
    2. Would like to see the site expand coverage to more than Blizzard.
    Seconding this.

    I'd like to see this become more about gaming, and expanding to other games as well. Lots of good games that deserve coverage.


    And also agree that it would be nice if there was a dark mode toggle, too.
  1. dragothica's Avatar
    Question, probably asked already but, what about adding an Authenticator Support to the forums?
  1. Puupi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    For reals:

    Appoint more mods to General Off-topic and give them faaaaaaar more leeway in enforcing the rules. The rules are too rigid and there are so many career trolls who have managed to evade the ban hammer for years because they stay in character and never actually admit to trolling.

    Also important: implement some system that allows you to permanently ban people based on their hardware. I know for a fact there is a person in the Gen-OT forums that has near 100k posts on different accounts, some of which have been banned, but many have not. Dedicated trolls know to use VPNs so IP banning them does fuck all.
    Hey! I'm not done yet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justpassing View Post
    Why do you guys care so much about gen-OT? What's wrong with tumblr or reddit or whatever shithole there is, can't you go hold your little group therapy sessions there and leave a gaming fansite be about gaming, and not bashing minorities? Jesus Christ, what is this shit...
    I came here for WoW, stayed for Gen-OT.

    I don't give a shit about WoW anymore.

    However, if this site covered more MMO's it would be nice. People want this site to be more about gaming than off-topic. I do, too.

    Currently off-topic forums draw more attention than WoW forums.
  1. tehdef's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by BurningSkies2018 View Post
    Seconding this.

    I'd like to see this become more about gaming, and expanding to other games as well. Lots of good games that deserve coverage.


    And also agree that it would be nice if there was a dark mode toggle, too.
    No. This is MMO CHAMP.

    There is only 2 MMO's that have any staying power in todays market, and that's WoW and FF. If you invest time into other MMO's you get no return.

    Why should MMOChamp shift to be more general coverage? So they can be bad at it? MMOC is about WoW. If they start doing other shit, the quality and simplicity of visiting this site will drop, and many will go elsewhere. I don't want MMO-C mucked up with shit from other games. It's been around for over a decade doing WoW, so it should keep doing WoW.
  1. RoKPaNda's Avatar
    The most illuminating thing in this thread so far is that people read Gen-OT.
  1. tehdef's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by MoanaLisa View Post
    My wish list for the site would be for it to acknowledge and report news on MMO's that exist beyond Blizzard. That's mostly it.
    Okay, so it would report news about WoW and final Fantasy, and it would do Final Fantasy poorly, so you'd be better off going to other sites. Other MMO's don't stick around for your request to even be entertained. It would be wasted resources, because they die within 6 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiwack View Post
    I suggest you start using the filters or the ignore user function to stop seeing the recent thread activities being clogged up by the usual suspects that you've got a problem with. Try it sometime, it's refreshing to see your actions make a difference to your own user-experience. A lot of people use the forum and many only to vent without looking to debate their opinion. You don't have to bother with them if you don't want to, others can and will, they're often without principle and easily put in place/told off when wrong.
    I love how you took the time to quote out plenty of posts requesting better moderation and the removal of bad faith posters, and instead tell us to filter things out so these threads can still exist, so the right-wing nationalism that has populated this forum can live on.

    Fuck that. There is NO PLACE IN THE FUCKING WORLD FOR RIGHT-WING NATIONALISM AND PROPAGANDA.

    Period.

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