Patch 8.2.5 PTR - Embassy Changes, Alliance Bee Mount, Mount Journal and UI Changes

As an Alliance player that's been annoyed by how ridiculous this expansion has been for mounts so far and thought it was a joke that Horde even had quest lines for some of these mounts... (It was a annoying enough we just got horses, but then to put a 7 year old mount as our rep mounts was a genuine insult to the player base )

I still think it's a dick move just making the bee mounts Alliance only. If another coloured one drops in the zone then maybe it would be better.

I'm all for making it an Alliance only quest (It's good to encourage people to play out the story on both sides) but the mount itself should have faction restrictions removed.

Originally Posted by rogueMatthias

As an Alliance player that's been annoyed by how ridiculous this expansion has been for mounts so far and thought it was a joke that Horde even had quest lines for some of these mounts... (It was a annoying enough we just got horses, but then to put a 7 year old mount as our rep mounts was a genuine insult to the player base )

I still think it's a dick move just making the bee mounts Alliance only. If another coloured one drops in the zone then maybe it would be better.

I'm all for making it an Alliance only quest (It's good to encourage people to play out the story on both sides) but the mount itself should have faction restrictions removed.

As a horde member who hates alliance scum - I am ok with the restrictions. Yes I am jealous, but I think it is ok for both sides to have their own mounts. I don't like that someone can just create a toon and do some quests so their other faction toons can use the mounts.

Blizzard gets around this by making things tied to achievements instead of rep. Which I think it the most absurd thing.
Achievement rewards = all toons can use it.
Rep rewards = only the toon who earned it can use it. Make getting exalted an achievement or account bound.

Its about damn time they give the alliance something.

Pandaren getting relegated to allied race?

Originally Posted by Inshabel

Alliance can get all of those mounts in some other ways though, you can get the tick, the hyena, etc.

I'm not gonna riot in the street over a bee, but you can use the mounts from our unique quest lines, so why not vice versa.

As an Alliance main, I fully support that. Treat the bee like the Kua'fon questline (sorry if I misspelled that).

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Originally Posted by Xu Sheng

"meaning it is only rideable by Alliance characters. This could change, however, as the PTR is still early."

Why should this change ? Is the ravasaur from Un'goro rideable by Alliance ? No. So let the bee be (huhu) Alliance only.

The ravasaur has its Alliance counterpart in the Winterspring Frostsaber.

The bee should work just like the Horde-only questline mounts in BfA. Keep the questline Alliance-only, but let Horde toons ride it.

Originally Posted by TigTone

Mudmug will lead the new “good” faction, the muggers, against the “bad” faction Nomicons.

It looks like at some point in the future just knowing character's race wont be enough to know it's faction (9.0 faction merge/split reference)

Originally Posted by Xu Sheng

"meaning it is only rideable by Alliance characters. This could change, however, as the PTR is still early."

Why should this change ? Is the ravasaur from Un'goro rideable by Alliance ? No. So let the bee be (huhu) Alliance only.

But they get the wintersaber.....also u get similar mounts from MoP the hatchable Raptors.

Originally Posted by Shakzor

That Horde/Alliance logo change seems... weird, after all these years. Could it actually mean something? Or just a small update someone finally remembered to put in?

I would be happy if it finally pointed to future Good vs Evil WoW with orcs, tauren, humans and forsaken on the same side (ie Defias affiliated humans on Horde). Especially since they know it works for Pandaren.

dont worry guys, people will QQ a lot on this and blizzard will make it horde too :P

Originally Posted by Justpassing

Horde should be able to ride it too, this change... could it bee any more stupid?

nah they shouldn't there can be a rare drop one from the zone that will cost around 100k on the ah since that's how alliance get access to all the unique mounts horde get.

Everyone talking about the stupid bee that will be forgotten about until the next mount. The real big news here is the character UI. Just one more big clue that soon we will be able to choose our faction despite our race. That's a far bigger deal.

Originally Posted by ANeM

Or it just means that they want an easy way of showing which character belongs to which faction. Given that there is a divide and the list currently only shows the name, class, level and location, it makes sense to add that information. This is could be especially useful given that players can now allocate all 50 of their character slots to a single realm.

A simple Horde/Alliance icon is a lot easier and generally more far more informative than trying to fit in the race name (which also wouldn't be any help for determining the faction of a Pandaren character.)



Blizzard doesn't know what to do with the pandaren leaders, and has no plans for them going forwards. So putting them in the embassy gives them something to do, if nothing else. Removing the other leaders means that blizzard can add significantly more allied races later without the embassies becoming crowded with leaders, and also means they can have some major plot stuff happen with those characters (deaths/betrayals/etc) without the awkward issue of them standing forever in the embassy for the Allied Race stuff.

Why though? When I log on, I don't think to myself "was the Druid I was playing last night Horde or Alliance?!" I feel like there's something more to this.

Feel really sorry for the pandas
the Devs really need to show them some love unless this will lead to something bigger?
If a more fluid faction format is coming, dropping both horde/alliance and returning as one.

As a mount collector I'm actually OK with the bee being Alliance only. Saves me obtaining it. God knows the day can't come soon enough when we enter if not cross-faction mechanics, then at least a return to having mounts and races be 100% converted.

Screw having to repeat everything on both factions to get mounts (Faction rewards), races (Allied races) or even pets.

so if the alliance gets the bee mount what do horde get ?( hopefully not another bat). as a horde player im pretty disappointed with the bee mount being alliance exclusive, might be time to reroll

Originally Posted by Queen of Hamsters

Mounts are only a small part of the game overall. Getting so worked up over them is rather sad, really, considering just how easy they are to ignore entirely.

Giving your alter-ego a talking to, eh?

Originally Posted by Inshabel

Alliance can get all of those mounts in some other ways though, you can get the tick, the hyena, etc.

I'm not gonna riot in the street over a bee, but you can use the mounts from our unique quest lines, so why not vice versa.

the alliance cant get kufaon and child or tor, they need to make horde charecters.
just like hiorde will need to make an alliance.
idk if you know but there is many faction mounts in the game, always has been

Originally Posted by Isoz

so if the alliance gets the bee mount what do horde get ?( hopefully not another bat). as a horde player im pretty disappointed with the bee mount being alliance exclusive, might be time to reroll

Horde got Kua’fon, the Pterrodax.

Originally Posted by Will

Giving your alter-ego a talking to, eh?

LOL!

Only noticed the names now! Well spotted!

Originally Posted by Will

Giving your alter-ego a talking to, eh?

Give it enough time and the sock-puppets will start talking to their masters.