WoW Classic - Hotfix for Demoralizing Shout/Roar Threat

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I'm curious to see if this will make Spell Cleave even more FotM than it already is.

I was wondering why demo shout is so good because I played warri in classic and BC and it was garbage.

Welp, there’s gonna be a lot of dead mages as they adjust to this.


Rip speedclearing dungeons for xp?

This mostly hurts level 60 speed farms of strat/scholo/brs. Doesnt really change low level dungeon leveling that much. Pretty sad though as this makes tanking as a warrior extremely boring.

So does this make threat as a healer more of an issue, or less? I'm confused!

Originally Posted by Raelyn

So does this make threat as a healer more of an issue, or less? I'm confused!

Same threat - but no longer split between mobs. This should make threat more of an issue than it is right now.

Happy they fixed this as warriors were taking over the niche that protection paladins filled and they were actually doing a better job at it as well making protection paladins totally irrelevant.

Originally Posted by Clozer

Same threat - but no longer split between mobs. This should make threat more of an issue than it is right now.

Well that's a bugger, but thanks! *spams Fade repeatedly*

#nochanges
It looks like they are adjusting numbers and then pretending they "fixed a bug".

Originally Posted by Milfshaked

This mostly hurts level 60 speed farms of strat/scholo/brs. Doesnt really change low level dungeon leveling that much. Pretty sad though as this makes tanking as a warrior extremely boring.

At least warriors CAN tank in vanilla lol. Druid and pally were garbage (other than as mediocre heals/buff whores) and DK/Monk/DH don't exist.

Originally Posted by Wickedtongue

#nochanges
It looks like they are adjusting numbers and then pretending they "fixed a bug".

I'm not sure if you are insinuating they nerfed warriors here, because demo never pulled such insane threat.

Originally Posted by Raelyn

Well that's a bugger, but thanks! *spams Fade repeatedly*

That's the point. Threat was THE number one issue for DPS in vanilla. The bosses hardly had mechanics. Open world mobs today have more abilities than Molten Core bosses.

Originally Posted by Wickedtongue

#nochanges
It looks like they are adjusting numbers and then pretending they "fixed a bug".

They could have already done that with mob/boss health,armor and dmg and you would never know

Originally Posted by Nefarious Tea

That's the point. Threat was THE number one issue for DPS in vanilla. The bosses hardly had mechanics. Open world mobs today have more abilities than Molten Core bosses.

This doesnt change boss threat though.

Originally Posted by Shuji V2

I'm not sure if you are insinuating they nerfed warriors here, because demo never pulled such insane threat.

Watching prot warrior guides from 2015 etc - everyone said spam demo for aoe threat. Literally every guide.

Does this mean that DPS classes other than mages might exist again!?

Originally Posted by Shuji V2

Happy they fixed this as warriors were taking over the niche that protection paladins filled and they were actually doing a better job at it as well making protection paladins totally irrelevant.

It's classic, it's not BC. Prot Paladins are totally irrelevant regardless.

Originally Posted by Clozer

Watching prot warrior guides from 2015 etc - everyone said spam demo for aoe threat. Literally every guide.

Didn't know vanilla released in 2015 mate.

Additionally, yes, it has some initial snap threat, but not like the ridiculous amount of threat it pushes out now. Warriors are not supposed to keep aggro on mages arcane exploding everything down.

Originally Posted by Tech614

It's classic, it's not BC. Prot Paladins are totally irrelevant regardless.

Sure mate.

Originally Posted by Clozer

Watching prot warrior guides from 2015 etc - everyone said spam demo for aoe threat. Literally every guide.

Demo shout should still be used in heavy AoE situations and will still generate the most threat- it did in actual vanilla. To my understanding it was just simply doing too much, it shouldn't do so much threat that a mage spamming AoE can't peel any mobs off you.

Originally Posted by Tech614

Demo shout should still be used in heavy AoE situations and will still generate the most threat- it did in actual vanilla. To my understanding it was just simply doing too much, it shouldn't do so much threat that a mage spamming AoE can't peel any mobs off you.

If it was not intended why have tanks in the first place then?