WoW Classic - Fix for Repeat Instance Bug Exploit

Noone will get banned sadly. Thanks to bullshit expansions like WoD, Legion and BFA, Blizzard cant afford banning players. Not even Classic can bring back the lost subscriber numbers.

Originally Posted by Domixux

The more I think about it the "You think you do, but you don't" actually starts to make sense. I mean its undeniable people want Classic WoW but then again people playing it exactly like the retail version. Everything is so rushed. Its really funny though because people already quiting because the game is boring after 2 weeks. What did you expect? The one MC and Ony Raid each week is hardly entertaining if you dinged 60 and farmed your pre BIS in two weeks.

that is exactly what has been going through my head since i first saw the aoe farming groups.

I wonder if the banhammer is already swinging hard. Suddenly I see many no life 60s with epic mounts from hardcore guilds who are always online in IF selling Devilsaur stuff and enchants disappeared. Hmmm.

Originally Posted by zmp

Noone will get banned sadly. Thanks to bullshit expansions like WoD, Legion and BFA, Blizzard cant afford banning players. Not even Classic can bring back the lost subscriber numbers.

Blizzard has had a policy for a very long time of not banning people, like before the expansions you're referring to. They had already adopted this policy in BC, and it was in full effect during Wrath (their best expansion in terms of subscriber count).

It's not a subscriber issue.

Blizzard has been very clear for years that they only use bans in the most dire circumstances. They're often fine with just fixing the problem and continuing on with life as usual, and if they do need to take action, they'll do a rollback or a temp suspension. Occasionally they'll do both.

It's why all these calls for, "OMG Blizz should ban!" are kind of absurd. This just isn't a bannable offense to begin with, according to Blizzard. Unless people are doing things like using external cheating tools multiple times, or are clearly hacking/gold selling accounts, Blizzard just doesn't ban.

Originally Posted by Gavll

Classic is REAL WoW. Everything after is just a bad cover version.

Sweet Summer Child that heard heroic tales from vanilla players and always dreamt about reliving that himself.

Look around you, after that short amount of time classic is already a shitshow: Two viable classes for dungeonfarming, raidexploits, broken economy, literaly no endgame that is challenging, etc.

You thought you wantend it...

Originally Posted by dipzz

So, players abuse raid dng exp farm....nothing
Players abuse raid/dng layering.....bans

A feature giving more XP than intended under normal use isn't an exploit

My hope is blizzard goes through and see how many lock outs it would have taken for the people to have done what they did. Kill lets say rag 10 times, suspend them for 9 lock outs. Fair as far as im concerned.

Originally Posted by sunxsera

Watch this video, should explain everything about the exploit / bug:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=D9z6DjWcgIU

this worked just fine thanks

Originally Posted by Justpassing

1. Bank transaction error
2. $$$
3. "They shoulda fixed it your honor!"
4. ???
5. Prison rape

more like you used an error 200 times to get a million dollars. That is in fact called stealing. And stealing gets you prison rape.

They should have just left Classic as it was in Vanilla....thats what people realy wanted, but no Blizz tried to get greedy and get as many players in the game as poss to create more money, thats the REAL reason of laying, NOT a player fault, this issue is entirely Blizz's own doing.

"Layering" yet another Blizz Idea which looked good on paper, but was very poorly designed and had even worse implementation, no forethought at all was put into this, they just put it in live solely to get more subs and revenue, nothing they have done these last 2 x-pacs has been properly thought through, this is what you get when the devs we now have these days have no idea what they are doing, they don't even play the game, and certainly they have no idea how players will react to content...just so out of touch.

"Classic" was initially a great idea but Blizz have fk'd it up beyond repair yet again, should have been NO CHANGES

Originally Posted by Exkrementor

more like you used an error 200 times to get a million dollars. That is in fact called stealing. And stealing gets you prison rape.

Details schmetails.

So, how many bugs is this? In the "exactly like vanilla" recreation that they swore up and down was tested.
But somehow people still think that killing Ragnaros in blue gear before the first submerge is working as intended?

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

What pisses me off is that popular streamers like Asmongold who used this exploit will NEVER see a ban.

Asmon never did it, he read about it and specifically said for people not to do it. You should probably hate him for another reason.

Originally Posted by Niwi

Id, say it's more of blizzards fault for not TESTING there systems properly, id say that this is "clever use of game mechanics" as it is possible to do IN GAME by anyone, BLIZZARD screwed up not the players using it, sure they abused it to death. and that's bad, but it's still BLIZZARDS fault it was doable in the first place.

If a bank makes an error and you abuse it by spending 2 million of someone elses money it doesn't matter if it's the bank's fault the error occured, you're still going to prison.

If I make an error by leaving my door unlocked and you come and rob everything in my house, it doesn't matter that I made the mistake, you're still going to prison.

People who abuse bugs like this are scum and have no place in an MMO, perma banning them would be better for the community in the long run.

Originally Posted by Vakna

If a bank makes an error and you abuse it by spending 2 million of someone elses money it doesn't matter if it's the bank's fault the error occured, you're still going to prison.

If I make an error by leaving my door unlocked and you come and rob everything in my house, it doesn't matter that I made the mistake, you're still going to prison.

People who abuse bugs like this are scum and have no place in an MMO, perma banning them would be better for the community in the long run.

I've spent the bank's and your money partying like it's 2099.

FUN DETECTED!!!!!

Originally Posted by AlexRS

Blizzard only perma bans for serious exploits

One guild got perma banned by skipping straight to C'Thun after the first boss, they used 3rd party program to remove walls tho but it wasn't that serious exploit...

Originally Posted by mmocfd1b0ab5a3

One guild got perma banned by skipping straight to C'Thun after the first boss, they used 3rd party program to remove walls tho but it wasn't that serious exploit...

Hmmm...

I remember back in my day when mmos wernt a thing as an admin on the old text role playing games(muds) we had to check the 'bugs' logs every day because no matter what the code is there is always gonna be a bug that is gonna need fixed either way if there is no option in game for a player to report bugs it needs to be put in not everyone uses forums these days.

Originally Posted by SkagenRora

one means slightly faster leveling, the other means infinite gear at max level... seriously?

I disagree with the "slightly" faster lvling. It was a lot faster. Instead of 5% XP per player (10 man raid grp) you got 14%, that is nearly 3 times as much as in Vanilla, because the raid penality was not given and the grp XP bonus for 5 man grps was added. 110% is a bit faster, 280% is insanely fast.

I call triple XP (2.8 to be exact) a TON FASTER.

Also not infinite gear. It is mostly BOP gear that you can farm like 5-10 times (based on layers) without having to do the trash again (just one boss not all). So it is a lot faster (or mounts) but not even close to infinite gear.

So you play the one exploit down by a lot and the other one up to infinite.

Easy fix to this whole issue remove Layering. Weird it's almost like everyone knew this would be a huge issue even before it was implemented, but what do us dumb players know. #NoChanges