Millenium Interview with Ion Hazzikostas - No Patch 8.3.5
Millenium sat down with Ion Hazzikostas recently to discuss Visions of N'Zoth and the future of World of Warcraft.

Shadowlands
  • Ardenweald will continue the stories started in the Emerald Dream and Emerald Nightmare.
  • There are currently NO PLANS FOR A PATCH 8.3.5..
  • There may be some small systems tweaks or updates for stability between now and Shadowlands, however.
  • Horrific Visions aren't designed to be the same sort of roguelike dynamic experience as Torghast.
  • Horrific Visions are pretty static in terms of what to expect when you go in. Torghast is a different experience each time.

N'Zoth and the Ny'alotha Raid
  • The manifestation of N'Zoth's power is a little different than what we dealt with in the past. He is going to subvert our minds and wills to transform Azeroth into a nightmarish future.
  • When creating raids, the team sees what cool ideas that they have and what characters have been set up in the past for this moment to revisit.
  • Creating the end raid is usually a bit longer because they try to place more bosses in it than previous raids in the expansion.
  • They also try to consider what inventive mechanics they could implement that players haven't seen before.
  • Ny'alotha is very real, but exists in an alternative reality that is starting to merge with ours.
  • If we are victorious against N'Zoth it should be the last we hear from him, but we'll see!
  • Dying in Ny'alotha is as permanent as in our reality.
  • Getting rid of an Old God for good should remove the corrupting power from our reality.
  • There are many forces at play in the world of Warcraft. Removing one may tip the balance in favor of others and there may be consequences to that we explore in the future.

Essences
  • There are currently still no plans for account wide essences. The system at its core is about player power and that is usually something that they don't allow to be account bound.
  • The team is still looking at overall essence acquisition rates and tuning how easy they are to obtain based on what they discover.

Corruption System
  • The team has wanted to move away from titanforging for awhile now.
  • The team agreed that there was too much randomness and undermining of item level from titanforging.
  • Corruption was a replacement that they team came up with that also manages to tie into the story.
  • Corruption will not carry forward directly into Shadowlands.
  • The team wants to explore more variety in gear sources in Shadowlands, such as making sure players who PvP obtain gear good for PvP, Mythic + rewards being geared towards Mythic + and so on.
  • Ion believes the Corruption system is less random than titanforging because there is effectively a limit on how many you can wear because of your corruption level, meaning only a small handful of Corrupted items can be worn at a time.
  • Your weekly Mythic+ cache is a regular source of Corrupted gear.
  • The team wants to get back to a place where you can feel confident that if you get a piece of Mythic raid gear, it is as good as that piece can be in terms of raw power.

Awakened Affix
  • Ion isn't 100% sure, but he believes the obelisks have a couple of different places that they can spawn each week, and the bosses associated with them go through a small rotation as well.

PTR and Grinding
  • The holiday break kept the PTR up longer and the team was able to get more feedback on Ny'alotha encounters, and the relative balance of Corruption, Affixes, and drawbacks.
  • Grinding is a loaded term. Generally, the more skill something requires, the less time it may require to earn. Example - Some players have more time to grind reputations but aren't necessarily a hard core competitive player.
  • Sometimes, rewards may feel mandatory for someone who doesn't enjoy the type of content required to obtain it. This is something the team is always trying to listen to feedback on and adjust.
  • Balancing all these systems for a variety of different play-styles in one of their greatest challenges.
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  1. Ielenia's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie081 View Post
    First of all, just to get it out of the way, we currently don’t have any 8.3.5 plans — there may be some small systems tweaks or updates for stability between now and Shadowlands, but Visions of N’Zoth is really the concluding chapter of Battle for Azeroth, and we’re excited to focus our attention on Shadowlands and the upcoming beta for Shadowlands that’ll be opening up over the course of the year.

    That seems pretty conclusive to me. 8.3.5 wouldn't be a big patch anyway because x.x.5 are only ever minor additions/system changes, so it's not like we're losing anything.

    I'm glad they're dropping BFA now because it's been a lost cause ever since release. Shadowlands has overshadowed 8.3 ever since its announcement.
    The story may be concluded, but that doesn't mean it confirms there won't be a 8.3.5 patch.

    Remember: Wrath of the Lich King's story was concluded in 3.3.0, but 3.3.5 brought in a new raid, Ruby Sanctum, to tie it with Cataclysm. They could do a similar thing, perhaps a quest line, one of with could be Sylvanas' loyalists helping her get to Icecrown Citadel.
  1. iamthedevil's Avatar
    having that related to torghast seems concerning?
  1. Nfinitii's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Starfals View Post
    There are currently NO PLANS FOR A PATCH 8.3.5

    Oh boy... what a great way to get disappointed.
    I’m ok with this, we just need to get to shadowlands and away from bfa.
  1. iamthedevil's Avatar
    Ny'alotha is very real, but exists in an alternative reality that is starting to merge with ours.
    Expansion right there.
  1. bronosh's Avatar
    "NO PLANS FOR A PATCH 8.3.5"

    SoG: 2 Electric Boogaloo
  1. otaXephon's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Rootsbum View Post
    One thing is for sure: I will take a long break after the story is done.

    It feels like there is so mutch passion behind WoW; but not enough resources or cash.
    Does all the money go to other IPs?
    Choose from one of the following cynical options:

    a.) Blizzard is a puppet company used to launder money to its Chinese overlords.
    b.) Blizzard shareholders don't care about how much fun people have playing WoW, just that they're playing WoW.
    c.) Development resources are being diverted into Activision's mobile gaming division since it has the highest return on investment.
    d.) WoW is in maintenance mode and has been since the end of Legion. BfA was an experimental expansion to see how little effort they could put into an expansion and still have the same population numbers as prior expansions. Sunk cost fallacy, yo.
    e.) It's used to pay for the development of additional Blizzard store mounts.
    f.) Fuck you, we're Blizzard.
  1. blankfaced's Avatar
    There are currently still no plans for account wide essences. The system at its core is about player power and that is usually something that they don't allow to be account bound.
    Heirlooms have been a thing for how long now? That whole "player power not account bound" ship sailed a long ass time ago.
  1. Lucetia's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by blankfaced View Post
    Heirlooms have been a thing for how long now? That whole "player power not account bound" ship sailed a long ass time ago.
    It's not really player power though and heirlooms are weaker now than stuff you get in dungeons. It's akin to getting craftables and stuff with a bonus XP attached on (even originally).
  1. otaXephon's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by blankfaced View Post
    Heirlooms have been a thing for how long now? That whole "player power not account bound" ship sailed a long ass time ago.
    Ah yes, since you define Heirlooms as intrinsically player power that means that the devs must agree with your arbitrary definition and therefore they're hypocritical for not agreeing with you.
  1. PalliesThrowStuff's Avatar
    8.3.5 not being planned is a tiny let down, because I was hoping for Kthir and Sethrak allied races in that patch. Who knows, might still get those for the release of SL though. Fingers crossed.
  1. Tech614's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Argorwal View Post
    Only 2 of the 7 expansions have had a content patch after the last raid.

    Wrath and Legion, and ruby sanctum sucked.

    Why are we acting like 8.3.5 is some long standing tradition they are aborting?
    Legion didn't have a patch after the last raid. 7.3.5 unlocked antorus, not 7.3.
  1. GreenJesus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Rootsbum View Post
    One thing is for sure: I will take a long break after the story is done.

    It feels like there is so mutch passion behind WoW; but not enough resources or cash.
    Does all the money go to other IPs?
    It goes to mobile games now I guess. Cod mobile turnee out to be pretty successful for activision financially and their stock hit 60 again for the first time since late 2018.
  1. Maarius's Avatar
    I'm fine with them making basically a break until Shadowlands. I just hope they put enough time into it since it looked way underdeveloped when they showed it in contrary to BFA and Legion.
  1. Argorwal's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Legion didn't have a patch after the last raid. 7.3.5 unlocked antorus, not 7.3.
    Antorus released in 11/28/17

    7.3.5 released on 1/16/18 and added some quest chains, and mostly did the level scaling world revamp.

    This more proves that in the 2 expansions they did have a small patch after the last raid it was mediocre at best in both instances and 5 expansions didn’t bother. BfA is in line with the majority.
  1. McNeil's Avatar
    I never really expected a 8.3.5 but its dissapointing to know that 8.3 will be what we have till Shadowlands, and this patch has been absolute garbage so far. I don't want them to rush Shadowlands either but I can see it happen if the game will continue to lose subs rapidly because of this poor excuse of a patch.
  1. Ophenia's Avatar
    Dying in Ny'alotha is as permanent as in our reality.
    So, it's not ?
    I dunno, we're endlessly fighting against the same threats and talking to the same people on Azeroth...

    Ny'alotha is very real, but exists in an alternative reality that is starting to merge with ours.
    Another pocket reality to avoid having to think too long about integration and laws. I hate that...

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