Patch 8.3 Hotfixes - February 12, 2020
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Dungeons and Raids
  • Operation: Mechagon – Workshop
    • Fixed an issue where Explosives could spawn in inaccessible locations when the Explosive affix is active on Mythic Keystone difficulty.
  • Siege of Boralus
    • Ashvane Snipers’ Shoot damage reduced by 20%.
    • Dockhound Packmasters now gain 40% increased damage from Feral Bond while near a Snarling Dockhound (was 125%).

Items and Rewards
  • Corrupted Items
  • Heart of Azeroth
    • Changing a Minor Essence while The Crucible of Flame (Essence) is equipped in the Major Slot no longer causes Concentrated Flame to go on cooldown.

Quests
  • Fixed an issue that allowed Horde players to receive credit for “Heroic Warfronts: The Battle for Darkshore” when completing the Warfront on Normal difficulty.

WoW Classic: New Player Offer
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*Offer valid through February 24, 2020
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Blackwing Lair Cleared in 42 Minutes!
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Blackwing Lair opened at 23:00 UTC today, and we had the pleasure of seeing guilds from all around the world charge into Nefarian’s domain and make quick work of the 8 bosses therein. Throughout the race, we captured the names of the players involved and the timestamps of boss kills from all realms in all regions.

Razorgore the Untamed

At only six (and seven) minutes past the hour, the first guilds to complete the Razorgore encounter were:
  • CN United from Huhuran (China) at 23:06 UTC
  • Praxis from Zandalar Tribe (Europe) at 23:07 UTC
  • For teh Horde from Heartstriker (Europe) at 23:07 UTC

Vaelastrasz the Corrupt

Basking in the glory of great power, the first three groups to end Vaelastrasz’s torment were:
  • Praxis from Zandalar Tribe (Europe) at 23:08:54 UTC
  • Ashes of Time from Earthshaker (China) at 23:09:08 UTC
  • Shao Guang from Ouro (China) at 23:09:10 UTC

Broodlord Lashlayer

After a brief suppression, Broodlord Lashlayer went down first to:
  • CN United from Huhuran (China) at 23:17:49 UTC
  • RISE from Incendius (North America) at 23:19:21 UTC
  • Calamity from Mograine (Europe) at 23:19:38 UTC

Firemaw

Firemaw’s Shadow Flame barely slowed down the same three leading guilds:
  • CN United from Huhuran (China) at 23:22:15 UTC
  • RISE from Incendius (North America) at 23:24:24 UTC
  • Calamity from Mograine (Europe) at 23:24:36 UTC

Ebonroc

At this point, another guild from Europe charged into contention, and Ebonroc was first downed by:
  • Calamity from Mograine (Europe) at 23:31:52 UTC
  • Progress from Firemaw (Europe) at 23:32:12 UTC
  • CN United from Huhuran (China) at 23:32:15 UTC

Flamegor

The same three guilds in the same order ended Flamegor at 33 minutes past the hour:
  • Calamity from Mograine (Europe) at 23:32:58 UTC
  • Progress from Firemaw (Europe) at 23:33:17 UTC
  • CN United from Huhuran (China) at 23:33:50 UTC

Chromaggus

A dragon for all dragonflights, Chromaggus succumbed to:
  • Calamity from Mograine (Europe) at 23:37:12 UTC
  • APES from Gehennas (Europe) at 23:37:12 UTC
  • Progress from Firemaw Europe) at 23:37:22 UTC

Nefarian

With less than 43 minutes elapsed, the first three guilds in the world to complete Blackwing Lair in WoW Classic were:
  • Progress from Firemaw (Europe) at 23:42:21 UTC
  • Calamity from Mograine (Europe) at 23:42:21 UTC
  • APES from Gehennas (Europe) at 23:42:29 UTC

Congratulations to every guild that planned and executed this feat so well!
This article was originally published in forum thread: February 12 Hotfixes, New Player Offer, RAF Guide, Blackwing Lair Cleared started by Lumy View original post
Comments 71 Comments
  1. Nevcairiel's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by EyeOculus View Post
    Reminds me. I want to see the unnerfed version of C'thun in AQ40.
    The one people claimed unbeatable by the numbers back then.
    It was also very buggy, with the stomach phase not spawning properly and whatnot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FatGandalf View Post
    How many addons work today vs original launch? Seems they could play an important role as well.
    Technically you can do less with addons today then you could back then. All they ever did was limit what addons can do, not really extend it - only in very rare circumstances. But obviously addon authors had also 15 years to come up with fancy ideas.
  1. Kharill's Avatar
    Somehow with the state of Blizzard/WoW I doubt they get much in the way of "new players" these days so kinda pointless offer.
  1. fwc577's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by joebob42 View Post
    Not on my server. I think AQ40 and the Naxx were the bigger ones.

    As for the Classic WF "winners" here, all I have to say is...

    It wasn't Naxx. Naxx not being cleared by many guilds had nothing to do with it's difficulty. Naxx wasn't cleared by many guilds because of how short of a patch cycle it had before TBC was released.
  1. Shakzor's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by FatGandalf View Post
    How many addons work today vs original launch? Seems they could play an important role as well.
    way, WAY less addons.
    you could make addons and macros that pretty much play the game for you and it was ok with the ToS.
    Addons only got more and more restrictions, not extended functionality. The only thing that might've changed is the people doing them and figuring out what they can do
  1. FatGandalf's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shakzor View Post
    way, WAY less addons.
    you could make addons and macros that pretty much play the game for you and it was ok with the ToS.
    Addons only got more and more restrictions, not extended functionality. The only thing that might've changed is the people doing them and figuring out what they can do
    So there was DBM and stuff like that during Classic (back in the day)? I didn´t play then so I have no idea. I have just seen the evolution of AddOns while I have played and was wondering what they had back then.
  1. Shakzor's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by FatGandalf View Post
    So there was DBM and stuff like that during Classic (back in the day)? I didn´t play then so I have no idea. I have just seen the evolution of AddOns while I have played and was wondering what they had back then.
    yep, it's just... what was it supposed to tell you? "Don't stand in fire"? You could also pretty much make legal bots via addons or macros
  1. rysco's Avatar
    why even bother playing when its that easy, spend months grinding to 60 to know the final encounter is going to take you 42 minutes!

    Classic is Classical!
  1. Gorsameth's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by FatGandalf View Post
    So there was DBM and stuff like that during Classic (back in the day)? I didn´t play then so I have no idea. I have just seen the evolution of AddOns while I have played and was wondering what they had back then.
    Yes. Additionally addons were able to do a lot more back in Vanilla that has since been patched out (and Classic runs on modern limitations from what I know).

    In Vanilla you had addons that automatically decursed people with a single button, as in auto target and cast the correct decurse/dispel spell.
    Healing addons that read a targets missing HP and selected the appropriate rank of heal spell to cast ect.

    But authors were new to making addons so a lot of the stuff that they have come up with in the years since simply wasn't on their mind at the time.
  1. FuxieDK's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Whitedragon View Post
    maybe in the bigger cities, good chunks of us where still on dial up. A good day for me was siting under 1k MS...
    Even in mid 90s, on PSTN lines, have I been anywhere near 1000ms..

    You are simply not remembering correctly.
  1. Logwyn's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by EyeOculus View Post
    42 minutes after opening the raid and its cleared.
    This shows what years of experience and knowledge does to a raid.

    Wasn't this raid one that broke the back of many raiding guilds back in the days?
    Chances are that the majority of those doing this now did it back in the day anyways. So they are just farming what they had on farm already.
  1. twothe's Avatar
    Addons don't really give you an advantage in Classic WoW. Bosses have such little and easy mechanics, what are they supposed to tell you? The one thing that would have helped you in BWL, a threat-meter, has been disabled by Blizzard intentionally, and boss timers are still random (as they used be to in classic) so you can't even trust any countdowns. But then the whole Ragnaros fight, that kept thousands of guilds busy back in the days, boils down to me to a simple kockback timer I have to watch. And ranged classes have even less to watch out for. Still the damage of a casual raid guild of random people down this boss with 32 unbuffed raid-members in phase 1.

    That's how simple classic raids are.
  1. Dastreus's Avatar
    I thought wow classic was free with a subscription????
  1. tylenol's Avatar
    Every time a classic raid gets wiped out in like half an hour people always say "wait till the next one"
  1. Domixux's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by tylenol View Post
    Every time a classic raid gets wiped out in like half an hour people always say "wait till the next one"
    I'm not denying that classic raids are easy. The mechanics are very simple. But not everyone/every guild is clearing bwl in 42 minutes. Of course people with 15 years experience on private servers and optimal raid comps clear the raids with ease. I mean just look at how many rank 14 people those guilds have. Those weapons give them huge advantages over casual guilds which might struggle with some bosses.

    Once again I'm not denying that a classic raid is much easier than any retail heroic/mythic raid, but by the same logic you're implying you could tell mythic nyalotha was easy because limit could clear it in 8 days. 80% of the others guild will probably never down mythic n'zoth before major nerfs/item upgrades.

    Long story short: Raids in Classic are not comparable to retail raids in diffculty but not every classic guild is crushing the content like the hardcore guilds can. Even Naxxrams will be cleared on the first day its get launched within a couple of hours (private server already showed that), but that doesn't mean every guild will do so.
  1. cparle87's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by EyeOculus View Post
    42 minutes after opening the raid and its cleared.
    This shows what years of experience and knowledge does to a raid.

    Wasn't this raid one that broke the back of many raiding guilds back in the days?
    The second boss was. Vaelestrasz the Guild Destroyer was his nickname.
  1. InfernalDark's Avatar
    Glad to see APES losing the race, well deserved
  1. Domixux's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by InfernalDark View Post
    Glad to see APES losing the race, well deserved
    Sad to see APES losing the race, they didn't deserve this.
  1. Piplupzero's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by FatGandalf View Post
    So there was DBM and stuff like that during Classic (back in the day)? I didn´t play then so I have no idea. I have just seen the evolution of AddOns while I have played and was wondering what they had back then.
    Not only that, they had addons that could draw in the world. Meaning not only would it say move out of fire, it would draw a circle with an arrow pointing to it telling you the exact optimal place to stand.
  1. MORGATH99's Avatar
    classic is joke what a waste of resources
  1. deenman's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by MORGATH99 View Post
    classic is joke what a waste of resources
    yeah,im sure classic with its milions of players is a waste,vs bfa with a few hundret thausand

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