Patch 8.3 Hotfixes - March 16, 2020
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Dungeons and Raids
  • Ny’alotha, the Waking City
    • Resolved an issue that caused players to get locked inside the Chamber of Heart if both Carapace of N'Zoth and N’Zoth the Corruptor encounters were defeated but other bosses undefeated on Mythic difficulty.
    • N’Zoth the Corruptor
      • Tank-specialization characters should no longer be targeted by Paranoia on all difficulties.
        • Developers’ note: Paranoia’s coordination requirements when tanks are involved is a bit higher than we’d like. This fix prevents tanks from being targeted altogether, preventing awkward moments where a ranged character would need to run a long distance to meet up with a tank partner.
    • Mythic Keystone Dungeon
      • Tidesage Council
        • Blessing of the Tempest should now be more visible when active on Galecaller Faye.
        • Blowback damage reduced by 20%.
        • Slicing Blast damage reduced by 20%.
      • Waycrest Manor
        • Reduced the rate at which members of the Heartsbane Triad gain energy from the Focusing Iris, resulting in an increased delay before Dire Ritual is cast.

Items and Rewards
  • Corrupted Items
    • [With regional restarts] All equipment rewards from Horrific Visions are now Corrupted.
      • Developers’ note: We’ve heard from many players that Corrupted Items were not obtainable enough, limiting their ability to play with the system and its inherent tradeoffs. This change will substantially increase the number of Corrupted Items reliably earned each week, allowing players to choose from among a greater selection of Corrupted pieces and enjoy those that work best in a given situation.
    • Twisted Appendage no longer benefits from buffs like Power Word: Shield or Earthen Wall.
    • Twisted Appendage and Infinite Stars can no longer trigger more than once every 12 seconds during player versus player combat.
  • Heart of Azeroth
    • [With regional restarts] Players who have Rank 3 Azerite Essences on at least one character can now more easily acquire those Essences on other characters on the same account via a new currency: Echoes of Ny’alotha. MOTHER will offer any eligible character a Rank 3 Essence for 500 Echoes of Ny’alotha each. Any player who is eligible to purchase at least one Essence from MOTHER will now receive Echoes of Ny’alotha from a wide range of activities in current content:
      • Black Empire Assault – 125 Echoes of Ny’alotha
      • Aqir/Amathet/Mantid/Mogu Assault – 75 Echoes of Ny’alotha
      • Horrific Visions – 50 Echoes of Ny’alotha, plus 25 per additional objective completed (i.e. 150 Echoes of Ny’alotha for a full clear)
      • Emissary Quest – 50 Echoes of Ny’alotha
      • Heroic Darkshore Warfront – 75 Echoes of Ny’alotha
      • Normal/Heroic/Mythic Ny’alotha raid bosses – 15-25 Echoes of Ny’alotha each, once per week per boss
      • Ny’alotha Raid Finder wings – 25 Echoes of Ny’alotha
      • Random Battleground wins – 15-25 Echoes of Ny’alotha
      • Rated Arena wins – 10-25 Echoes of Ny’alotha baseline, scaling up with PvP rank
      • Rated Battleground wins – 35 Echoes of Ny’alotha baseline, scaling up with PvP rank
      • Weekly PvP Cache – 175 to 300 Echoes of Ny’alotha, based on PvP rank
      • Mythic Keystone dungeon end-of-run chest – 3 Echoes of Ny’alotha per Keystone Level (i.e. 30 Echoes of Ny’alotha for a Mythic 10)
      • Weekly Mythic Keystone Dungeon Cache – 20 Echoes of Ny’alotha per highest Keystone Level
        • Developers’ note: The general goal here is that doing Assaults and associated Horrific Visions should provide enough to get at least one Rank 3 Essence of your choice per week. Doing other content you like (PvP, dungeons, or raids) will increase that significantly, depending on the level of content you’re doing. Of course, Essences can still be earned normally via their associated activities, so if you want to get your Essence of the Focusing Iris directly via Mythic Keystone dungeons and then buy others from MOTHER, that’s now an option. Within a couple of weeks of hitting max-level on your alt, you should be able to obtain your preferred Essences by playing the game as you usually would.

          Please note: Echoes of Ny’alotha may appear to replace Azerite in the Emissary and PvP reward panes, however, it does not. Echoes of Ny’alotha are always additive with existing rewards. We believe that it is more important to release this update with a reward display issue than hold the change for a fix. We expect to fix the display issue in the next week or two.

          For more information read our forum post.
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  1. Temp1on2's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Doffen View Post
    this means I get actual bis from just playing. Just like old times. Do raids? Get bis essence and gear. Do dungeons? Get bis essence and gear. Do solo content like HV, get bis essence and guaranteed corrupted gear.
    I've literally been saying this and people continue to argue that this is different to how it has always been. Never have you been able to just 'jump straight into' end game content on alts.
  1. Sammonoske's Avatar
    Tank-specialization characters should no longer be targeted by Paranoia on all difficulties.
    Thank you! Also means as a warrior I don't have to be careful with spell reflect screwing me over.
  1. munkeyinorbit's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by deenman View Post
    it is a grind when you have many alts,people want account wide essences,not more grind
    So people want things given to them for no effort. How about mythic gear as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MakeMeLaugh View Post
    Multiple alts.
    So the action of levelling an alt entitles you to free stuff. The entitlement is real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucetia View Post
    Where does it say they are gifting 2 essences in the first week? I read it earlier and again in case I missed it, but I don't see anywhere they said that. The way you are making it sound by "gifting" means they are giving you 1000 echoes to buy 2 essences and rest you earn, but that doesn't look to be the case.
    What do you do with your alt except come here and complain? If you don't actually play your Alts then why are you having a big fat cry? Just play the game, get your normal rewards and the gift of two esscences after. It's pretty simple.
  1. Lucetia's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by munkeyinorbit View Post
    What do you do with your alt except come here and complain? If you don't actually play your Alts then why are you having a big fat cry? Just play the game, get your normal rewards and the gift of two esscences after. It's pretty simple.
    To say what you told someone earlier, are you drunk? Nothing you said remotely correlates with what I said. I never said anything about my alts or anything. Nothing said I complained. Nowhere did I say I was having a "big fat cry". You really need to think about what you say when you reply to people and make sure it makes sense.

    You said they were gifting 2 essences. Gifting means they mail or give you the 1000 echoes upon login to go buy them on an alt. This is not the case at all. You still have to put in work to get those 2 essences. My question to you was: "Where does it say in the post they are gifting 2 essences". It doesn't so stop spreading misinformation.

    Quote Originally Posted by munkeyinorbit View Post
    normal rewards and the gift of two esscences after.
    This does not mean what you think it means. You should say "Do normal activities then go purchase your two essences". You aren't being gifted anything.
  1. munkeyinorbit's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucetia View Post
    To say what you told someone earlier, are you drunk? Nothing you said remotely correlates with what I said. I never said anything about my alts or anything. Nothing said I complained. Nowhere did I say I was having a "big fat cry". You really need to think about what you say when you reply to people and make sure it makes sense.

    You said they were gifting 2 essences. Gifting means they mail or give you the 1000 echoes upon login to go buy them on an alt. This is not the case at all. You still have to put in work to get those 2 essences. My question to you was: "Where does it say in the post they are gifting 2 essences". It doesn't so stop spreading misinformation.



    This does not mean what you think it means. You should say "Do normal activities then go purchase your two essences". You aren't being gifted anything.
    *In the middle of a big fat cry*
    "I never said I was having a big cry"
    Hahahahaha.

    If you are not earning a thing and it is given to you then it is a gift. Do you actually think you are earning the esscences? I'll let you in in a secret. You're not.
  1. Stormykitten's Avatar
    I think the problem with non-class progression is made so abundantly clear this final patch, where I ask myself, even if I can now more easily get things on alts, why on earth do i actually want to do that as everything is getting axed for the next expac? Like, I think it's something they need to ask themselves is worth the easier balancing through generic systems like azerite, or actually doing the hard work on classes.

    I mean, for the fun of it can carry something to an extent, but it takes a game whose base gameplay loop is very entertaining to actually retain interest and I don't think WoW is quite there right now.
  1. munkeyinorbit's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by lucky6969 View Post
    so 2-3 weeks per each essence with spending few hours each week on alts.

    gross.

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    hello ji aao ramg udd ake
    If your not even playing your Alts then why are you complaining. Why would you jump an alt and only accrue 200 currency? Is it so you can come here to complain more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuggsy View Post
    Whoever thought Blizzard wouldn't turn the essence thing into a bs grind was fooling themselves. I gave up giving Blizzard the benefit of the doubt years ago. I've learned to just expect the worse because that's usually the case and be surprised when it turns out good. And to everyone saying 'oh boo hoo, you have to grind in an MMO, who would have thought' you're kidding yourself. It's literally the end of the expansion and the entire azerite system (you know, the literal centerpiece of the expansion) was awful and broken from the start. Who does it actually hurt if blizzard just let those had earned their essences get them for their alts without all the damn hoops and grind?

    People aren't moaning because they have to play their alt. They're moaning because they've done the crap before and they want to get into better/higher content faster on alts. God forbid now that the expansion is at an end, eh?
    What grind? The grind is gone. Just playing the game, improving your character will get you the esscences in two weeks. I guess if your spending most of your time lying in a fan website then there isn't a lot of time left to actually play the game.
  1. Lucetia's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by munkeyinorbit View Post
    *In the middle of a big fat cry*
    "I never said I was having a big cry"
    Hahahahaha.
    Your reading comprehension is extremely terrible. All both of my posts said was where does it saying you are being gifted the essences. As you said, "I'll let you in on a secret: It doesn't".

    Quote Originally Posted by munkeyinorbit View Post
    If you are not earning a thing and it is given to you then it is a gift. Do you actually think you are earning the esscences? I'll let you in in a secret. You're not.
    Again, your reading comprehension and grasp on words is terrible.

    Gift = a thing given willingly to someone without payment; a present.

    Here you are still putting in effort through various activities to receive the essence. So yes you are earning it, albeit at a much easier route as it encourages people to do activities they have been skipping, but it still isn't a gift by any means at all.
  1. Ielenia's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by grexly75 View Post
    Yeah won't take long, doing the math for the first four in that list will only get you 400, and that is if you manage to do a full H Vision clear.. Is interesting that normal visions are not included in the list.. But you notice the large amount you get for the weekly PVP cache compared to the weekly M+ cache, that wont go down well..
    I'm assuming that, by "normal" visions, you mean just killing the main boss (Alleria or Thrall), then it gives 50 Echoes. There is no such thing as "normal" Horrific Visions, especially since it doesn't mention the masks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    Doing full Horrific Visions on alts and still needing essences.
    Essences have nowhere near the impact in Horrific Visions as you think they do. What really makes an impact is your cloak level and how far in the Titan tech tree you are.
  1. deenman's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by munkeyinorbit View Post
    So people want things given to them for no effort. How about mythic gear as well?

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    So the action of levelling an alt entitles you to free stuff. The entitlement is real.

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    What do you do with your alt except come here and complain? If you don't actually play your Alts then why are you having a big fat cry? Just play the game, get your normal rewards and the gift of two esscences after. It's pretty simple.
    the ''how about mythic gear'' argument doesnt fly,as thats not artificialy time gated,i can hop on my alt,farm some m+ and hop in to mythic raids fairly quickly,also the fact that the best pve essence is from pvp is again a very bad design choice,personaly i dont agree with account wide essences,just remove the damn time gating and let me farm it on an alt with no forced gating once i have it on main
  1. Lucetia's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    I'm assuming that, by "normal" visions, you mean just killing the main boss (Alleria or Thrall), then it gives 50 Echoes. There is no such thing as "normal" Horrific Visions, especially since it doesn't mention the masks.
    "Normal" visions are those that you do in Uldum/Vale
  1. Trumpcat's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    So play the game normally and get an essence a week, maybe 2. Personally I see no issue.
    You sound normal, what are you doing here?
  1. Cashcate's Avatar
    Horrific Visions – 50 Echoes of Ny’alotha, plus 25 per additional objective completed (i.e. 150 Echoes of Ny’alotha for a full clear)
    Just did 1 full clear (no mask) and got 370 Echoes of Ny’alotha. It was on my main and it was for the tank reputation essence from Mechagon (i had rank 3 DPS essence unlocked)

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