Burning Crusade Blizzard Survey, Brandy Camel Leaves Blizzard

WoW Classic - Burning Crusade Official Blizzard Survey
Yesterday, players on Reddit began reporting that they received an official survey from Blizzard asking questions about a hypothetical Burning Crusade Classic Server. The questions asked are listed below. Thanks to soramac on the classicwow subreddit for the photo!

  • How interested are you in a "Classic" version of Burning Crusade?
  • Thinking about the potential ways a player could start a character in "Classic" Burning Crusade, which of the following would you prefer most?
    • Continue playing my current Classic character on my existing server as it progresses to the Burning Crusade expansion, with the option to transfer to a Classic server that will never progress past level 60.
    • Continue playing my current Classic character on my existing server that will never progress past 60, with the option to transfer to a Burning Crusade server.
    • Start a brand new character from Level 58 on a new Burning Crusade server.
    • Start a brand new character from Level 1 on a new Burning Crusade server.
    • None of the above




Diablo Community Manager Brandy Camel Leaving Blizzard
Diablo Community Manager Brandy Camel, also known as Nevalistis, is leaving Blizzard to take on the role of Dungeons and Dragons Community Manager at Wizards of the Coast! We wish her all the best!

Originally Posted by blizzard (Blue Tracker)
This is, undoubtedly, one of the hardest things I’ve ever had to write. Not gonna lie, it took me a few tries.

March 27, 2020 will be my final day as Diablo Community Manager, and at Blizzard Entertainment. I’m not leaving for any ill reasons; my team here has always been understanding and kind, every developer I’ve had the honor of interacting with has been delightfully passionate, and the decision to leave was ultimately mine alone. I have an opportunity to explore a new and very different adventure, and if you’re curious about that, I’ll share more about it on my personal channels. Sometimes, opportunity presents itself and you just gotta roll the dice.

What I want to focus on is expressing my gratitude to this community. For welcoming me when I stumbled in at the announcement of Reaper of Souls. For making me feel at home as I was trembling on livestream, fighting stage fright while introducing the expansion to the world. For all the smiles, high-fives, hugs, and selfies at conventions (especially BlizzCon). For the absolute conviction and passion for Sanctuary that I see in every player’s post, whether it’s excitement over the latest Season or constructive criticism for your favorite class. Regardless of highs and lows, this is one of the best communities out there, and the heart of it is warm, caring, and filled with people who just want more Diablo.

Thank you for permitting me to be a part of your community. Thank you for reading my weird blogs and tolerating my terrible puns and memes. And thank you for staying awhile to listen. I’ve had an incredible opportunity learn and grow as person that I’ll carry with me the rest of my life, and I can’t wait to delve the depths of the Burning Hells and face down the mother of Sanctuary alongside the rest of you.

Lastly, rest assured that the Diablo community will be left in good hands. I’ve spent a fair amount of my final weeks here preparing to pass the torch to those who will follow in my footsteps and working with the team here to ensure the transition is as smooth as possible. You won’t be left unheard or unacknowledged, but please be understanding while the next folks get settled in. We’re all here to battle the demons of Hell together, after all!

I’ll see you in Sanctuary, adventurers.

DLC#719
DLC #719 has been released!

This article was originally published in forum thread: Burning Crusade Blizzard Survey, Brandy Camel Leaves Blizzard started by Stoy View original post
Published on 2020-03-29 02:08 AM
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  1. Viikkis's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Doomchicken View Post
    Considering how quickly classic has dropped in player numbers is it really worth doing this again with burning crusade? It's not going to be any better in terms of player retention.
    Depends what you mean by dropping player numbers. We all knew that many "tourists" would try classic out and leave but right now there is still a really healthy and big playerbase in classic. Same tourist wave will happen with TBC generating ridiculous revenue to Activision Blizzard once again. Classic stuff really is small effort - huge profit type of deal for them so yes it is worth it.
  1. TheRevenantHero's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Will View Post
    It doesn't matter when they googled that picture. The fact is, not all classic servers are ghost towns. So would you kindly stop talking nonsense?
    People just need to stop lying about Classic servers having queues. I haven't seen a queue for any server since before New Year's.
  1. Mendzia's Avatar
    I love how always all of these 'farewell posts' are like this.
    'Everything is great. My team is awesome. I had best time of my life... but anyway i am leaving'.
  1. Aphrel's Avatar
    New servers seems like the best course to me. With the option to COPY, not transfer, your classic char.
  1. jzhbee's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero View Post
    People just need to stop lying about Classic servers having queues. I haven't seen a queue for any server since before New Year's.
    Ah yes. Quite an anecdotal piece you have there. Why dont you try to join Incendius-US between 6 and 8 pm server time and tell me you havent seen a queue.
  1. Viikkis's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Mendzia View Post
    I love how always all of these 'farewell posts' are like this.
    'Everything is great. My team is awesome. I had best time of my life... but anyway i am leaving'.
    Hehe well you don't want to end up on the "naughty list" of employers.
  1. Kolvarg's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Doomchicken View Post
    Considering how quickly classic has dropped in player numbers is it really worth doing this again with burning crusade? It's not going to be any better in terms of player retention.
    I mean, considering they continue to release expansions when since WoD (arguably Cata and MoP too) the player numbers drop very quickly after launch.

    And while it does rake in more money because of the box price, I would think creating a new expansion takes a *bit* more effort (and therefore investment) than making an older version playable in the way they did Classic.
  1. reauxmont's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    I think it stops after that...or does anyone want Legacy Cata servers etc?
    For sure! I'd love to have legacy Cata servers, had the best time during that expansion.
  1. Starfals's Avatar
    No thanks, i was up for the classic one cuz well.. that's how it all started. It was the one i (and most people) remember the least cuz it was soo many years ago. TBC is the one i remember the most, that and Wrath. It was the peak in WoW player base too. So most people know about it and its much more recent. If they make TBC, I'm afraid it might kill off classic or drastically reduce its numbers. Everyone in my guild is already talking how they will leave for TBC.. i guess classic was never meant to last long.

    Shame. This is why private servers are golden. You find some expansion and you stick with it. If you give the option to go forth, most people take it and leave the old thing behind. The few that stay will have a bad experience cuz the game is an MMO. You just need the people.

    Oh well, it was good while it lasted I guess. I thought it might last much longer but alas.. probably not.
  1. Solero's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Drewbabyy18 View Post
    How about we start devoting all assets to Retail? Shadowlands beta is already behind. Stop trying to start other projects when your cash cow is lacking..
    Please no. Retail is bad enough already. If it wasnt for classic I was long gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero View Post
    People just need to stop lying about Classic servers having queues. I haven't seen a queue for any server since before New Year's.
    Youre the only 1 lying here. Try joining firemaw and behold the beautifull queue.
  1. Algorath's Avatar
    Pretty decent marketing.
  1. Kolvarg's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Starfals View Post
    If they make TBC, I'm afraid it might kill off classic or drastically reduce its numbers. Everyone in my guild is already talking how they will leave for TBC.. i guess classic was never meant to last long.
    That will happen over time regardless, as it reaches its last content phase and people do what they want to do the activity will die off.
    Of course there's replayability by running through the same content as a different class, but there's only so many people that want to do that.


    If they make Classic TBC, it will likely be at the very earliest released August next year, quite a while after Classic's last content phase is out. An option they have is to take the chance to consolidate Classic realms into only a few with TBC release (and make most others TBC realms).

    Something they can do is starting new realms on Phase 1 (something that does tend to get people playing, and part of why Private servers quite often get healthy playerbases, is that people are more likely to start / re-start playing on a fresh new realm). But they can do this whether they release Classic TBC and eventually Classic WotLK or not, and honestly I don't think there's that many people that will want to start on a fresh Classic-only server every 2 years.
  1. kamuimac's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Starfals View Post
    No thanks, i was up for the classic one cuz well.. that's how it all started. It was the one i (and most people) remember the least cuz it was soo many years ago. TBC is the one i remember the most, that and Wrath. It was the peak in WoW player base too. So most people know about it and its much more recent. If they make TBC, I'm afraid it might kill off classic or drastically reduce its numbers. Everyone in my guild is already talking how they will leave for TBC.. i guess classic was never meant to last long.

    Shame. This is why private servers are golden. You find some expansion and you stick with it. If you give the option to go forth, most people take it and leave the old thing behind. The few that stay will have a bad experience cuz the game is an MMO. You just need the people.

    Oh well, it was good while it lasted I guess. I thought it might last much longer but alas.. probably not.
    Luckily for you classic servers wont shut down .

    maybe they will be merged into 3-4 remaining megaservers but they will operate.

    And people will move on to better version of game
  1. Jasper Kazai's Avatar
    Personally, I was interested in Classic because I never got to play Vanilla. But I started in BC, so that appeal is not there this time. Not to mention that I fell off of Classic after a couple of months, for a few reasons - not all of which were directly related to the game itself. I'd try a BC, but I doubt I'd stick with it even as long as I did Classic.
    I'd be worried about what a BC server would do to player numbers. I don't think there's a ton of competition between Retail and Classic - they are serving different playerbases, for the most part. But a fight between Classic and BC... that'll fragment populations.
  1. Synical123's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Jasper Kazai View Post
    Personally, I was interested in Classic because I never got to play Vanilla. But I started in BC, so that appeal is not there this time. Not to mention that I fell off of Classic after a couple of months, for a few reasons - not all of which were directly related to the game itself. I'd try a BC, but I doubt I'd stick with it even as long as I did Classic.
    I'd be worried about what a BC server would do to player numbers. I don't think there's a ton of competition between Retail and Classic - they are serving different playerbases, for the most part. But a fight between Classic and BC... that'll fragment populations.
    Lets be honest, it will fragment the classic population and the TBC population will boom. Same thing will happen to TBC when they release WotLK.

    Honestly, I think TBC could bring in more people than classic did. Don't get me wrong, classic is/was a blast depending on if you are playing or not still (I'm not), but TBC is just more polished, offers better systems, and more options for players to play more. For example, none of my friends who played wow with me came back to classic with me. Just because they don't have time to raid, they like to pvp mostly, and don't want to have to be logged in every waking moment to progress.

    In classic, if you pvp, you are forced to just spam the same bg over and over and over and over and over and over again on a daily basis. That's not very fun. TBC offers way more flexibility, even with just arenas and how the honor system works alone.
  1. Pacster's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Mendzia View Post
    I love how always all of these 'farewell posts' are like this.
    'Everything is great. My team is awesome. I had best time of my life... but anyway i am leaving'.
    Yeah, always depends on the amount of money in the "farewell"-contract. ;-)
  1. Synical123's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Bethrezen View Post
    TBC was already on the way soon as Activision saw Classic was bringing in more money.
    Yup, as soon as you got the news that said 'Wow subs tippled because of classic' that was your q that TBC is going to happen. The biggest money maker for them is 100% going to be WotLK.

    There are still WotLK servers up to this day that surpasses the vanilla pserver community that have never left, even when classic was released.
  1. Unholyground's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightblade2091 View Post
    Where will it end though? Once people have had their fill of BC, they'll want Wrath, then Cata, and so on. Pretty soon you will have just played through the entirety of the game again, and then what?? Classic 2: The Classic-ing??? Ridiculous.
    I think TBC Classic will be even more successful honestly, even a lot of the friends who joined in classic with me agreed that they would jump to TBC in a heartbeat because most of us actually remember TBC more fondly.
  1. Kolvarg's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightblade2091 View Post
    Where will it end though? Once people have had their fill of BC, they'll want Wrath, then Cata, and so on. Pretty soon you will have just played through the entirety of the game again, and then what?? Classic 2: The Classic-ing??? Ridiculous.
    If people buy it they'll probably make it. Same exact reason why we get remakes and remasters all the time, even with movies.

    Ultimately even if they keep "re-releasing" old xpacs, as long as they keep a similar schedule to new expansions (2 years), they will always be 15 years old by the time their "Classic version" comes out. I mean it's easy to forget as there is somewhat of a dividison in WoW xpacs, and Cataclysm sort of feels more like modern WoW than it does Classic, but it is almost 10 years old by now.

    With that said, let's assume they stop at WotLK, which is fairly likely. After WotLK begins fizzling out, they could make some new Classic realms for people to go back to that (Assuming both TBC and WotLK last around 2 years each) would by then have been released 6 years before then. They could virtually keep rotating through those 3 expansions releasing new fresh realms to keep players coming back.


    Whether that's good or bad for the main game is hard to say, but people would certainly have options on what content they want to play
  1. B1GP7's Avatar
    The optimal for me is keep the char on a only 60 server with the option of copying the char to a progression server.
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